Camden Shed

[92220]

5 hours ago, Barry O said:

Looks great! Did you think about using DAS or filler and using a tool to mark the setts? It worked on Herculaneum Dock but your method produces a good result.

 

Baz

Hi Baz,

yes I did think of that and it might well have been better!  I ought to have asked…..

 

3 hours ago, Portchullin Tatty said:

It is probably worth going over the surface of the sets with sandpaper once it has properly cured.  It will take the rather rounded tops of the SE Finecast plasticard back a bit?

 

Yes, that is a good shout.  Thanks.  I was thinking more of thinned filler brushed across but that just fills the grooves rather than flattening the tops.  
 

Iain

[92220]

A bit of an update.  It took me some time to cover the entire inlaid area with 2 layers of card.

 

 

Then the whole lot gets a layer of 10thou plasticard.

 

 

Then the setts and brick courses 

 

 

It’s a process……….but while it takes a while to get the method, once that is sorted it gets a lot faster.

 

Iain

 

[92220]

Bit by bit, this is starting to look something like 1/9th of Camden Goods:

 

 

Iain

Edited January 3, 2023 by 92220
Re-add a photo

[JeffP]

It certainly is.

When you started it i was unsure if it would be worth it, but it really adds to the layout.

[92220]

Setts completed and Camden Goods Shed painting begun.  

 

 

 

There is a fair bit of detailing to add to the building, not to mention more painting and weathering.  

 

I will sand the setts to tone down the gaps between them and flatten the top surfaces, before priming and painting.  I’m not sure exactly what colour to paint them yet.  Any suggestions welcome.

 

Also, I spotted a fairly significant error - it’s clear in the photo above.  Can’t believe I did this but it’s very easy to rectify, thankfully.

 

I’ll be honest, I’m not queuing up to cut any more setts for a while!

 

Next stage - to rebuild the Primrose Hill station.  
 

 

I wanted to use the basis of the existing building and extend it, partly because the first effort at building a very irregular and complex shape was pretty decent, and partly because the staircase down to the platform readily covers the join anyway.  
 

There is method in all this madness in doing some of the scenic work before laying all the rest of the trackwork, I promise.

 

Iain

Edited January 3, 2023 by 92220

[Michael Edge]

Setts look really good, I would paint them a darkish grey. Mine on Herculaneum Dock are embossed into grey tile grout (to avoid white marks when the track is cleaned), general dirt and graphite applied to the rails have darkened them considerably now from the original fairly light colour. 

[92220]

I can’t remember what my last update showed exactly so a quick recap.  I have definitely done a little since then, but also started to travel for work again which decreases opportunity somewhat.

 

Camden Goods Shed

 

Painting continued a bit but more to do plus details (pipes, trunking, lamps, signs, derricks etc) still to add once painting is finished.

 

 

Includes a remodelled structure just next to the Camden No.1 box, that I’m not even sure what it is but I have found better photos since building the first version and this is closer.  It looks from photos as if it could contain a ballast box of some sort, maybe made from old sleepers.

 

Primrose Hill station continues too:

 

 

 

 

Station building extended and semi rebuilt.  New staircase and platform, plus the odd-looking building between the NL lines and the goods yard approaches.  I couldn’t bring myself to do all the windows on the side that could never be seen!

 

Iain

Edited April 4, 2022 by 92220

[dggar]

I've just come across this YouTube of Wilesden & Camden sheds

Shots of Camden only appear inthe last 50 seconds or so but I think it's worth a viewing.

[dggar]

Another video similar to the one above. Camden features for the first 30 seconds or so.

 

 

[92220]

It was a great pleasure and a privilege to go to Taunton today and help Graham (LNER4479) and the team operate Hills of the North.  Even better, I got to take a few Camden locos to add to the roster

 

A big thank you for having me!
 

A few photos and a video to enjoy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I missed filming 70044, 45584, 44684. 42110 did plenty of banking and 46146 has stripped its gears and has come back for heavy general.  

 

But this compilation includes:

 

46239 on a northbound express

46245 on the Caledonian

45735 on another northbound express 
44687 on cement

73139 on parcels

45027 on the Lakes express

92220 on the rail tour usually hauled by Clun Castle 

92056 on fitted freight

 

Thanks again to Graham and the team for a great day.

 

Best wishes,

 

Iain

[LNER4479]

Pleasure was all ours, Iain. Many thanks for making the effort to travel to Taunton - not exactly 'just down the road' for you!

 

Great to see the cream of Camden stretch their legs on the big northern bank, always happy to host locos of such quality. And you certainly soon got the hang of Shap summit signalbox which was a big help for us yesterday. Glad you enjoyed yourself 😃

[92220]

A while back I pontificated for a while about the shed wall derricks.  

 

On the shed wall:

 

 

and last year on the side of the Camden Roundhouse - perhaps these are representative at least of type, if not in every detail.

 

 

Finger belatedly extricated and I fashioned some up.

This is 4 strips of fret waste soldered together for a bit of coordinated drilling:

 

then one pair soldered together using a card jig 

 

 

mounted on strips of plasticard which will be cut away, I could keep the angles and orientation in 2D correct

 

 

One in detail.  There is a somewhat expedient mixed media approach here, but I hope they will pass muster at a distance in the background to the shed and main line activity.  
 

 

And no, I never did figure out the way the mechanism worked, but leaving it like this I could add something later if I find out.

 

Iain

 

[figworthy]

23 hours ago, 92220 said:

A while back I pontificated for a while about the shed wall derricks.  

 

On the shed wall:

 

 

and last year on the side of the Camden Roundhouse - perhaps these are representative at least of type, if not in every detail.

 

 

Finger belatedly extricated and I fashioned some up.

This is 4 strips of fret waste soldered together for a bit of coordinated drilling:

 

then one pair soldered together using a card jig 

 

 

mounted on strips of plasticard which will be cut away, I could keep the angles and orientation in 2D correct

 

 

One in detail.  There is a somewhat expedient mixed media approach here, but I hope they will pass muster at a distance in the background to the shed and main line activity.  
 

 

And no, I never did figure out the way the mechanism worked, but leaving it like this I could add something later if I find out.

 

Iain

 

 

What a lovely piece of work.

 

Looking at the picture of the prototype, there are two horizontally mounted pulleys at the top swivel point (it looks as though you've only got one), with the chain running between them, and then heading indoors, so I would imagine that there is some form of winch in there.  Slewing is probably done by swinging the load with ropes, and that will drag the job around.

 

Adrian

[92220]

10 minutes ago, figworthy said:

 

What a lovely piece of work.

 

Looking at the picture of the prototype, there are two horizontally mounted pulleys at the top swivel point (it looks as though you've only got one), with the chain running between them, and then heading indoors, so I would imagine that there is some form of winch in there.  Slewing is probably done by swinging the load with ropes, and that will drag the job around.

 

Adrian

thanks Adrian.  I had it in mind to add the second pulleys on each one when I’d worked a little more out about the mechanism, and given the lack of any clues outside, I wondered about a winch inside.  That would make things entirely comprehensible!

 

Iain

[92220]

Apologies - a really poor quality photo of the gradually developing Camden Goods Depot.  New sign made and printed, derricks and railings painted and attached.

 

 

I think it will look ok as a backdrop though.

 

Quick trip to Camden itself, and I found these between some of the buildings in Camden Market, close enough to the site of the goods yard:

 

 

indicating that Mike Edge was unsurprisingly correct to suggest dark grey. I’ll add a few other tones to try to imitate the image above.  I expect the way to do this will be subtly.

 

Iain

[dggar]

Just come across this you-tube of Willesden shed after the closure of Camden shed.

has a nice shot of City of London moving in the shed yard.

 

[92220]

Thanks for these video clips - much appreciated.  On this most recent one there was also a link to this:

 

 

Which has at the beginning a slightly less grainy sequence of the E side of the shed from Train of Events.

 

Work has been crazy recently so not much to show but a little bit of progress on the Primrose Hill station area:

 

 

Iain

 

[92220]

A New Year update from Camden, and all good wishes for 2023 to everyone who reads this, most of whom probably wonder whether I am on Pluto time if I am ever going to finish this.  
 

Anyway, here we go….

 

A couple of bits of building, and refinement of existing buildings.  The block below is such a characteristic feature of Primrose  Hill station in the period that I am modelling.  Yet, while there are many photos with it in, there seem to be almost none OF it.  It isn’t quite finished - there is a bizarre little square turret on the low part of the roof to add.  Then weathering.   The accompanying hut is also an improvement on what went before.  

 

 

 

The best photo I have of this was posted on this thread by Stanley (1B Camden) I think:

 

I’ve also started to get the station itself done.  Again, evidence isn’t easy to come by, but I hope this is a decent stab given the space I have, and it should provide a good backdrop to the main event.

 

Slaters platform canopy awning, and a scratch built platform and what I assume was a waiting room.  I have guessed at LM colour scheme, which will get a lot of weathering in due course as it was fairly down-at-heel by this time I think,  I have some stills from a YouTube video in NSE colours but only b&w fragments from the 60’s. I need some canopy supports,  York Modelmaking do some less ornate ones than those that were actually there, but I will probably go for these given it is only a background.

 

more to come…..

 

Iain

 

 

 

 

 

[46256]

Happy New Year Iain

 

Always a pleasure to see your  work on the layout

 

best wishes Brian

[92220]

I’ve built the main part of the control panel for Camden No.1 which basically will control the mainlines.  Finally got all the crossovers fully wired and switched.  

 

Laid two kickback sidings off the innermost Up fast storage road.  These go under the main fiddle yard control panel and the standing workbench.  One road holds 12 and the other, 11.  Will I ever need that much storage?  Who knows, maybe not, but I didn’t fancy laying it when I was running out of space at some point in the future.  

 

 

Iain

 

 

 

[franciswilliamwebb]

49 minutes ago, 92220 said:

It isn’t quite finished - there is a bizarre little square turret on the low part of the roof to add.

 

A water tank, perhaps?

[92220]

1 hour ago, franciswilliamwebb said:

 

A water tank, perhaps?

 

Probably yes.  Just feels like a bit of constructional overkill for such a building.

 

Camden No.1 finally got a name, although the board is not too prominent.  Neither was it in real life.


 

 

And a few trains to celebrate the new year.  Most of these have been seen before, but things have developed a bit. On here are:

 

46245 (Hornby body, Comet frames, Comet tender) 

46239 (currently running without a trailing truck while I sort out some unreliable running.  Same as 46245 bar the tender)

46251 (much modified Hornby)

45735 (somewhat too briskly - Bachmann/Hornby hybrid)

44741 (first outing on video.  Like 44687, this was a massive conversion from a Hornby base)

44687 itself 

45027 (DJH kit plus detail)

45371 (Brassmastered Hornby)

46145 (Comet kit)

46144 (Hornby body, Comet frames, Hornby tender much modified) 

92220 (much modified Bachmann)

 

The trains themselves are made up of what stock I had available, rather than being representative.  A mix of Bachmann mk1 and porthole, Hornby mk1, Stanier pIII, Comet and other kits, much modified Airfix and Dapol, and Comet sided hybrids.  
 

Hope you enjoy.

 

Iain

 

 

[t-b-g]

Could that bit on the roof be a louvred vent for a toilet block? There were some like it at Doncaster station.

 

The windows beneath it look very like toilet type windows.

[92220]

Hi Tony,

It’s possible - or maybe a water tank above a toilet block?  
 

some very grainy crops from screenshots (I hope it is ok to post these: I’ll remove if necessary) show what looks like an overflow pipe to the rear (the station side). 

From the bridge:

 

 

from the station platform, looking south at it:

 

 

and looking west, ish:

 

 

Iain

 

[Jol Wilkinson]

Looks great, Iain.

 

I'd love to see a LNWR Teutonic with the 2pm Corridor on your layout.