Kirkby Luneside (Original): End of the line....

[robmcg]

Rob - I don't know how much money you've spent on your TMC models (quite a lot if my TMC spending is anything to go by!!), but if that Hornby Dublo is something you've always wanted I'd put in a bid/stump up the necessary on eBay and get the thing while it's available. It's only the price of 2 new locos and the nature of the beast - in terms of your childhood memories etc - is priceless!

 

Re. your "book" of photos. How well would the images enlarge, given the photoshopping pixellation that inevitably results from image manipulation? Having said that, it'd be well worth seeing just for the locos, even without any background!

 

Jeff

 

That makes it hard to ignore... the Hornby Duble set, that is. But I'm undecided still. It would work out at NZ$1,000 and end up stored in a cupboard.

 

As to enlarged versions of my pictures, the ones you see are tiny by comparison with the originals, which are 6,000 - 10,000 pixels in width and would withstand A4 printing without pixelation. In JPEG format the originals are 5-8 MB each.  They take me 4-12 hours each to put together, and it's just  such a pleasant pastime they keep on arriving.  I'm lazy though, as many will have seen, I re-use sections of pictures all the time!

 

Just finishing a SpamCan with a 1960 express in Wessex today. And the sun is out both in the picture and here.

 

Rob

[Andrew P]

TWAS YOU DAT MENTIONED DA GRASS DIS TIME BOZZ

 

Bog Sh**

[robmcg]

I think a touch old the Old Moss is more in line with life on the moors...

 

unlike this Wessex scene,  unfinished but you get the idea...      actually I think Bulleids Wonderful Machines were cleaner than this west of Exeter, mostly, but this might be a dastardly Nine Elms engine...  thread drift.

 

I have tried to make it look ever so slightly like Cumberland rather than just west of Basingstoke...

 

Edited June 5, 2013 by robmcg

[Andrew P]

I think a touch old the Old Moss is more in line with life on the moors...

 

unlike this Wessex scene,  unfinished but you get the idea...      actually I think Bulleids Wonderful Machines were cleaner than this west of Exeter, mostly, but this might be a dastardly Nine Elms engine...  thread drift.

 

I have tried to make it look ever so slightly like Cumberland rather than just west of Basingstoke...

 

Bulleid_BoB_BR_Express_1960_5ab_crop_r800.jpg

Hi Rob, are the signals the wrong type or is it on an S & C Railtour with those ultra clean coaches?

 

Bodgit

[Physicsman]

Hi Rob, are the signals the wrong type or is it on an S & C Railtour with those ultra clean coaches?

 

Bodgit

 

And the coaches are Southern green, Andy. Or maybe they are maroon Mk1s covered in g----!!

 

Just fitted the last bit of rock to the cutting. Time to build some stone walls now - on a rising Fell, lush with verdant g----!!  

 

Jeff

[robmcg]

Hell, I cannot get anything right.  LSWR area signals were upper quadrant in western areas and often centre lattice post, but could be offset, as at Salisbury.  The green is the same as BR green appears in any of many photos I have, never get involved in arguments about the colour green.

I find such details important but when such as colour is seen as 'wrong', I feel inclined to point to any of many published photos. Browse through 'Southern Counties Main Line Steam'. It would take 2 seconds to de-saturate the green carriages and cast them more yellow, but BR green often was much cleaner on Southern Region carriages than engines in later BR steam days. None, sorry, less of these smoky Midland choke-holes.

 

edit; Toboldlygo in the Hornby section where the picture also appears pointed out that 34065 in the pic was narrow cab and had a cut-down tender in late BR guise, not the 9' cab and built-up tender of the model in the picture, which my brother bought two years ago and had re-named and weathered by TMC.  A correctly configured engine is in the mail to me, although to be honest I didn't check the exact details of cab width and tender style when I bought it yesterday.

 

I know Jeff how you must feel sometimes when the rocks or bricks aren't 'right'!

 

Here is another picture done just now of BR travel experience this time on a Midland route, uphill, and the Jubilee would not have stayed that clean for long, fireman taking fresh air after the tunnel, both engines wide open again.

 

A hybrid picture using bits of two recent efforts and one much older one.

 

Almost could be S&C but what about that brickwork? Looks far too southern to me.

 

Edited June 6, 2013 by robmcg

[Physicsman]

Morning Rob.

 

I particularly like the last image, not just for the Black 5s, but for the tunnel setting you've created. Yes, my kind of pic!

 

As for rocks - boring things, really. The only thing to take interest in is the consistency across the layout. Any rocks on a future project will have the lighter colouring of post 6799, as would corresponding structures. However, there is no getting away from the walling. Up early today (03.50 local time), ready to make tons more DAS "bricks"!

 

I think your image wizardry is a bit more creative than my wall building!

 

Jeff

[robmcg]

Thankyou Jeff. I like the way your tunnel mouths, cuttings and bridges are looking.

 

I know that the details of my paintings are often wrong in their particulars, like crest/tender/livery combinations, but I try to get close, and really like the process of evoking old railway experiences. I think a heavy train in some of the tunnels on the S&C would have been rather interesting!

 

Sun shining faintly here, frosty night ahead methinks.

 

Best,

 

Rob

Edited June 6, 2013 by robmcg

[robmcg]

Hi Rob, are the signals the wrong type or is it on an S & C Railtour with those ultra clean coaches?

 

Bodgit

 

I rendered the left hand background ever so slightly ambiguous so that yet average punter won't notice the difference.  

 

Compromises, compromises.

 

Cheers,

 

Rob

[Andrew P]

I rendered the left hand background ever so slightly ambiguous so that yet average punter won't notice the difference.  

 

Compromises, compromises.

 

Cheers,

 

Rob

Morning Rob,

You are right of course and I would NOT WANT TO KNOCK your pics, they are truly awsome and inspiring.

As for Bullieds and their Tenders and Cabs, they are a minefield in their own right, George T of this parish used to work on the old Wrenn and Hornby Dublo ones using Albert Goodall parts and also scratch build tenders from plasticard when it was a fairly new product. He would research each one he did and he still names and numbers ones in his head when we are in conversation, he would say things like 34003, Plymouth with the cut down tender and so on and so forth, I can't even remember what day of the week it is now, haha

 

All the best and how about a MN coming out of Southampton Docks? If I carry on like this and al this talk of Mr Bullieds finest Jeff will want this transfered to the Lounge.

 

Bodgit   

Edited June 6, 2013 by Andrew P

[Physicsman]

Morning Rob,

 

 

All the best and how about a MN coming out of Southampton Docks? If I carry on like this and al this talk of Mr Bullieds finest Jeff will want this transfered to the Lounge.

 

Bodgit   

 

Might be a good idea if you are discussing non-S&C, if only to keep the thread a little unclogged! However, as usual Rob - keep the pics coming on here and I'll continue to index them.

 

It's a small world when we can discuss all this kind of stuff with our group spread far and wide across the globe. Who'd have thought it a few years ago? I wonder - does anyone still write letters?

 

Jeff

[Physicsman]

Presently sat waiting for the imminent delivery of my latest storage cabinet ("display" cabinet implies I just collect locos...pictures on pages 79-81). The current Bachmann/Hornby packaging for locos is very good, but go back 2-3 years and you come across the old polystyrene trays.... I have a rule - once unpacked, the locos never go back into the boxes again, to avoid damage (unless I'm sending them somewhere). They sit on the shelf and are wonderful to look at when not in use.

 

After a bit of food shopping it'll be time to spend a few hours with the DAS. Wouldn't want to deprive myself of the "Joy of Walling" (my new bestseller!!).....

 

Jeff

[uax6]

Stock storage is a problem that I find is creeping up on me. The stuff I build is scattered all over the house (which is allowing SWMBO) so I really must get round to sorting out a solution. I was thinking a small (very secondhand) mini-filing cabinet, the ones that used to be used for storing reams of paper in offices. Sadly finding a cheap one is a pain. I suppose I ought to have a few of my creations on display, but the house is short of wall space.....

 

Hows the walling coming along Jeff?

 

Andy G

[Physicsman]

Stock storage is a problem that I find is creeping up on me. The stuff I build is scattered all over the house (which is allowing SWMBO) so I really must get round to sorting out a solution. I was thinking a small (very secondhand) mini-filing cabinet, the ones that used to be used for storing reams of paper in offices. Sadly finding a cheap one is a pain. I suppose I ought to have a few of my creations on display, but the house is short of wall space.....

 

Hows the walling coming along Jeff?

 

Andy G

 

Simple answer to that, Andy.... it isn't!

 

I've had to re-stock with the different thicknesses of DAS that I use to make the walls. So I've spent the last 2 hours producing copious strips and these are drying out in the kitchen. There should be enough to let me build 40cm of walling. So an early start tomorrow should allow me to show you some progress with photos etc. It makes a nice change from fiddling around with the cutting.

 

Jeff

Edited June 6, 2013 by Physicsman

[uax6]

Why don't you just keep making loads of strips today? Then you will be able keep them for the duration and they will be there waiting? They should dry nicely on a wall in the sun!

 

Been playing with two bow pens (My hands are still stinging from battleing with the schools gardening plot, which is overun with nettles!) so I can't do proper modelling... They take a bit of getting used too, and so far I have only used ink in them as they are old and need a clean. Any ideas how to clean off old ink? White spirit? One has a lovely bone handle and is lovely to use, but doesn't like to start for some reason.

 

I'll put some images on my Bodgery page tomorrow.

 

Andy G

[Physicsman]

Why don't you just keep making loads of strips today? Then you will be able keep them for the duration and they will be there waiting? They should dry nicely on a wall in the sun!

 

Been playing with two bow pens (My hands are still stinging from battleing with the schools gardening plot, which is overun with nettles!) so I can't do proper modelling... They take a bit of getting used too, and so far I have only used ink in them as they are old and need a clean. Any ideas how to clean off old ink? White spirit? One has a lovely bone handle and is lovely to use, but doesn't like to start for some reason.

 

I'll put some images on my Bodgery page tomorrow.

 

Andy G

 

That's a good idea - and I would do, but modelling for the day has been curtailed by imminent Physics tuition and then trench digging/filling (with concrete) for the evening activities!

 

When I get in tonight I'll try and do a few more. Using my jig I can knock out about 50 strips an hour - each strip is around 25cm long. I'm actually looking forward to starting on the wall above the cutting - that just goes to show how seriously unbalanced I am!!

 

Btw, I thought most inks were water soluble?

 

Jeff

[uax6]

I can see that wall building whatever the scale can be rewarding.... But is reminds me I need to finish pointing up the inside of my gable wall and around the chimney stack... Not fun in this sort of weather, but good for loosing a few pounds.. Shall i suggest it to the Mrs?

 

I have no idea if they are, this ink must have been on the nibs for about 20 years, so my need a bit of easing.

 

After these few trains i'll have a go.

 

Andy G

[uax6]

Humm,

 

Would appear that white spirit doesn't seem to touch the ink, and I don't really want to soak the nibs in water just in case. Do they need boiling up in something?

 

Andy G

[Physicsman]

I can see that wall building whatever the scale can be rewarding.... But is reminds me I need to finish pointing up the inside of my gable wall and around the chimney stack... Not fun in this sort of weather, but good for loosing a few pounds.. Shall i suggest it to the Mrs?

 

I have no idea if they are, this ink must have been on the nibs for about 20 years, so my need a bit of easing.

 

After these few trains i'll have a go.

 

Andy G

 

I initially mis-read your post as saying the ink had been on your hands for 20 years!! If so, no wonder it wouldn't come off!

 

I'm afraid I'm not a nib specialist....I bet the Baron knows the answer!       

 

Jeff

[uax6]

Well I'm well known for having finger nails in perpetual morning, so I guess some dirt has been on my hands for 20 years!

 

I'm sure someone on here will know. Need to try out some paint it them now, and find a battered coach to practise on. I feel an old triang mk1 will fit the bill quite nicely!

 

Andy G (Luney liner?)

[Andrew P]

I initially mis-read your post as saying the ink had been on your hands for 20 years!! If so, no wonder it wouldn't come off!

 

I'm afraid I'm not a nib specialist....I bet the Baron knows the answer!       

 

Jeff

Never was edey kated Boss, no idea what to do, I will stick to Nails and the Hot Glue Gun.

 

Bodgit

[Mrkirtley800]

Hi Jeff,  not been around for a while.  I have been scratch building a Midland 0-6-0 (1F) open cab tank loco in "0" gauge for my son.  When I get involved with building locos everything else goes to the wall, so a bit of catching up is required.  Like your rock face/ stub wall and bridge arrangement, but would a wing wall be required with a rock face?  Sorry to be a drag about that but I have been looking at some piccies of similar situations, and they all show the tunnel/bridge etc seemingly growing out of the rock.

Like your wall, did the same thing on my own Midland layout, with the low wall running between two over bridges.  Bit crude now but it was installed about 1992.

My rock strata was made by breaking 'soft board' in pieces, sticking them together and coating with plaster.  Looking at them now  makes me think they look like softboard broke up and stuck together.

Derek

[Physicsman]

Hi Derek.

 

Interesting point about the wing walls. The likely answer is that they wouldn't be needed - and it would have made things a lot easier without them, if I'm honest. Nevermind, they are built and the bridges fit into place - hopefully looking ok. 

 

As for walling - well, there is going to be rather a lot of that by the time I finish!

 

Jeff

[robmcg]

Presently sat waiting for the imminent delivery of my latest storage cabinet ("display" cabinet implies I just collect locos...pictures on pages 79-81). The current Bachmann/Hornby packaging for locos is very good, but go back 2-3 years and you come across the old polystyrene trays.... I have a rule - once unpacked, the locos never go back into the boxes again, to avoid damage (unless I'm sending them somewhere). They sit on the shelf and are wonderful to look at when not in use.

 

After a bit of food shopping it'll be time to spend a few hours with the DAS. Wouldn't want to deprive myself of the "Joy of Walling" (my new bestseller!!).....

 

Jeff

 

The problem with this is dust....   as you would see if you photographed engines after they have been in an averagely-used room for a month or two.  I put most of my engines back in their boxes because I haven't got enough shelf-space. Certainly it is an art form, as is removing an engine without breaking it.

 

Speaking of photos, I have enjoyed putting my photos in this thread because writers and readers here clearly enjoy modelling. Lately pretty much the only reaction I have been getting elsewhere is "that engine never carried that livery with smoke deflectors", as if I sit on the production committee of Hornby Sales. They might just as well say "how can you photograph a model where the cylinder inspection cover plate rivets are wrongly modelled".    Even if the gauge is 8" out and wheel flanges are gross.

 

I have to say I don't understand it, and it is largely why I went away from modelling in 1967 and built bike and car engines instead.

 

Bleat over.

 

Rob

 

edit; probably should be in the lounge, or left unsaid. I will try to keep my contributions to occasion diversions from wallery.

Edited June 6, 2013 by robmcg

[robmcg]

Sorry about my irritation at the errors in a couple of recent pictures.

 

Today I thought, damn the torpedoes, Jeff liked the Midland two Black 5s scene, here s a version with what look to be the remains of an aqueduct over the tunnel portal.  Wouldn't have happened in the real world though would it?

 

Note to Jeff. The original is 10,395 pixels-wide, 9.5MB., not 800-wide 180KB as shown here. high quality printed A3 landscape format no problem. 

Sun shining here on winter afternoon, about to cook potatoes and avocado vegetable mix, the better to think of new angles for photos. 

 

Your layout Jeff might end up with a photo of engines of choice emerging from a similar hillside, but mirror-image?

 

Hornby 44762 and 44781 bothe factory-weathered 2002 models, and back in their boxes!

 

 

Rob