RMweb Gold Geep7 Posted September 14, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2015 Oh dear, I'm having flashbacks to the original Heljan 33 and its dodgy roof shape.... Glad i'm not the only one. I keep looking at the Dapol model and something doesn't seem right, but I can't put my finger on it. Mind you, could just be years of looking at the Lima model.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanspareil Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Is it just me with regards to the GM Ltd Ed 73101 livery; would others have preferred to have seen at least one of their two releases with the seemingly more common/more pleasing on the eye white roof? The prototype photos on the GM Facebook page seem to show grey roof on both. The product photo imagery up until the prototypes showed white roof. I know I could just re-spray the roof myself but at the inflated Ltd Ed price kind of puts me off a bit. I don't run 73's that much so may just keep my heavily detailed Lima version and do something with improving the mechanical side of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Is it just me with regards to the GM Ltd Ed 73101 livery; would others have preferred to have seen at least one of their two releases with the seemingly more common/more pleasing on the eye white roof? The prototype photos on the GM Facebook page seem to show grey roof on both. The product photo imagery up until the prototypes showed white roof. I know I could just re-spray the roof myself but at the inflated Ltd Ed price kind of puts me off a bit. I don't run 73's that much so may just keep my heavily detailed Lima version and do something with improving the mechanical side of things. See post #497 on the previous page. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanspareil Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 (edited) Thanks, I was reading pages and pages of this thread but missed the most important post!!!! Well at least that's good news, but not good news for the wallet! PS also have to hope a Shawplan et al nameplate fits nicely over the printed one as that doesn't seem to look too great. Im sure it wont be included with one. Edited September 14, 2015 by sanspareil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number6 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Glad i'm not the only one. I keep looking at the Dapol model and something doesn't seem right, but I can't put my finger on it. Mind you, could just be years of looking at the Lima model.... Funny that is what people were doing back then too - saying that Lima had the shape right. Which was horlicks of course! The underdangly bits on the Dapol look wonderful. Having chopped away at mine many years ago attempting the same its really nice to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
159220 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 R2654-LN_3110256_Qty1_11.jpg 144138604773205_SMPL_21.jpg Just to provoke some thought, from the top - the ex-Lima, Hornby and Dapol versions. That Lima moulding is still pretty good for its age (OK those buffers ) - way back in 1981 ?? - seem to remember buying two from West Croydon models (?) - Eric (?) was the chap that ran it , opposite the bus station in between spotting RM's & DMS's ............... 35 years ago Excellent to see both GBRfs together. It highlights just how superior the Dapol one is. Demonstrates if anyone is happy to keep the Lima/Hornby rather then treat themselves to the new Dapol one might find themselves in the new Specsavers advert, where we see them playing with the Lima/Hornby one in bliss. Hmm, might email Specsavers! The roof detail is significantly improved, with exhaust and grills to depth. The body side is much sharper (especially noticeable around the glazing), with additional detailing in handle bars and grills, giving a far more superior look and feel over the old model. Underfloor detail, well, just marvel at it! The level of detailing is superb, and truly makes the Lima/Hornby one look outdated and destined for the bin. Also the fact that Dapol are very receptive to polite at show, email and social media comments and contributions show they are keen to make the model as near perfect as possible, and have detailed production a few times to improve on comments. I don't see other manufacturers doing it, truly is a customer focused model. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Excellent to see both GBRfs together. It highlights just how superior the Dapol one is. Demonstrates if anyone is happy to keep the Lima/Hornby rather then treat themselves to the new Dapol one might find themselves in the new Specsavers advert, where we see them playing with the Lima/Hornby one in bliss. Hmm, might email Specsavers! Nice to see you poking fun at people who'd rather save a few quid and do a little modelling... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted September 15, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 15, 2015 The Lima (now Hornby) one was a superb looking model for its time. Its still looks good against the new Dapol one apart form the box underframe detail but IIRC I modified my one by filing various bits off it to give some profile so once wethered it looks OK. Not sure if I still have this one stored somewhere. I have recently bought a Hornby one to repaint into Southern colours and hopefully will run on Star Lane. No need for slow moving high quality motors on this layout as there is no shunting or even station to stop at and it will be good to detail it. As Pete says proper modelling again. However I am sure the Dapol one will be very nice and I plan get one of the Gaugmaster releases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted October 7, 2015 Share Posted October 7, 2015 This picture of the re-engineered Caledonian Sleeper 73 clearly shows the roof dimples: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/85704-re-engineered-class-73/?p=2044434 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 From http://Dapol.co.uk/index.php?route=information%2Fnews&news_id=133#.VhacOf2FOUn: ". . . the Class 73 is the first model to feature our new quieter diesel mechanism and ‘hi-torque’ motor . . ." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 And it also mentions a 00 class 59 !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 8, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2015 And it also mentions a 00 class 59 !!! Already got it's own thread........... Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
owentherail Posted October 8, 2015 Share Posted October 8, 2015 Already got it's own thread........... Cheers, Mick Yes so it would seem, lm liking the lack of fanfare for the announcement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2015 (edited) Had an email from a well known box shifter that BR blue 73135 will arrive between November 2015 and December 2015, whilst large logo blue 73105 will be between November 2015 and December 2016................ (typo methinks) Cheers, Mick Edited October 12, 2015 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Geep7 Posted October 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2015 Had an email from a well known box shifter that BR blue 73135 will arrive between November 2015 and December 2015, whilst large logo blue 73105 will be between November 2015 and December 2016................ (typo methinks) Cheers, Mick Having seen some of the mythical arrival dates for the Class 73 from Dapol, this might not be such a mistake.... Seriously though, will be good to see the model in the flesh as it were. Having only seen it from 2 angles doesn't do it justice.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tractionman Posted October 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 12, 2015 I got this email about the green liveried version: We thought you may like to know that an item you have asked us to notify when it arrives into stock, has had some information about its release date added or updated. Dapol 4D-006-004 Class 73/0 electro-diesel E6003 in BR green with lower grey panels £105.00 Our latest information from the supplier suggests this item will arrive with us between November 2015 & December 2015 Whilst we are hopeful this information is accurate, manufacturer lead times are frequently prone to be delayed. This information is to be used as a guide only. cheers, Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted October 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 12, 2015 Several retailers have emailed their subscribing customers within the past day or so advising pre-orders are now open for the 73s. Kernow MRC and Gaugemaster (Engine Shed) are among them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jjb1970 Posted October 13, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 13, 2015 I'm really looking forward to these and it is one of the models I'm really excited about, probably just above the Hornby S15 but beneath the Hornby air smoothed Merchant Navy as one of my top three new tooling projects. I will not be offloading the old Limby versions however as the fact that there is a better model coming does not make the Limby version a bad model and with the Hornby motor bogie the older model is a very sweet runner if not as powerful as the sort of all wheel drive mechanisms and diecast chassis arrangements of more modern models. I see the same logic with the Bachmann warship models, the Class 43 is a cracking model but the fact it is a better model than the old Class 42 does not make the 42 a bad model and I've no intention of ditching my 42's either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James90012 Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 Olivias have announced three more exclusive versions - covering Network Rail, Fragonset black and EWS. See here:http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Dapol-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-oo-gauge-locomotives/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty.J Posted October 15, 2015 Share Posted October 15, 2015 (edited) Latest limited editions from Olivia's:- - EWS 73128http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Dapol-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-oo-gauge-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-128-in-ews-livery-olivias-exclusive/ - Network Rail 73212http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Dapol-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-oo-gauge-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-212-in-network-rail-livery-olivias-exclusive/- Fragonset "Spitfire" 73107http://www.oliviastrains.com/trains/model-trains/Dapol-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-oo-gauge-locomotives/Dapol-class-73-107-spitfire-in-fragonset-livery-olivias-exclusive/ EDIT: Sorry, never saw James' post above. Edited October 15, 2015 by Rusty.J Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
James90012 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 What did 73107 get up to in Fragonset days? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted October 17, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2015 What did 73107 get up to in Fragonset days? Some of this Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren2003 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I have to say I'm glad Gaugemaster are changing the roof colour on 73101 to white but it would be nice to keep the fibreglass panels that grey colour! With regards to the livery on 73101 when it was originally painted into the Pullman colours in 1991 (at Selhurst I believe) it had a white roof and yellow lining/numbers. The second time it was painted in 1997 (at Stewarts Lane) it featured a silver roof and gold lining/numbers and to be looked far more authentic! So the model itself with what looks to be yellow lining/numbers and a white roof will be accurate for 1991-1996. Darren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I have to say I'm glad Gaugemaster are changing the roof colour on 73101 to white but it would be nice to keep the fibreglass panels that grey colour! The Pullman livery doesn't rock my boat (train), but it should be a simple job to mask up the roof panels using a low-tack masking tape and change the colour, maybe a rattle-can tan colour? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 I hope Dapol make a good job of this - they don't really have any pedigree in OO diesels I don't think and have now been entrusted with several important prototypes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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