Popular Post LNER4479 Posted July 27, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 27, 2015 (edited) So, what has been happening over the last week or so? Well, not a lot during the week owing to a forced absence due to a work trip, so it was a case of trying to make up for lost time over the weekend... Well, this might not look like progress per se as we have of course seen this magnificent building before. However, there is some progress to report here in terms of the surface it is sitting on! Prior to this weekend, it was a mere temporary piece of corrugated card but here it is now properly supported by the permanently-fixed sheet of 6mm ply. To the side, further pieces of 3mm MDF are being fixed down, which creates the 'well' in which the building will sit. Where the (out of period) lorry is sitting is intended to be part of the working roadway (one day!) so needs to be a smooth and level surface. You may of course have 'clocked' by now that this is the non-public side of the building. Yes - this will never be seen by an exhibition audience but Paul has added the building detail nonetheless! The next building (or buildings) that Paul is turning his attention to are the actual malting buildings themselves, which were located a little further south (I use the past tense as the final one remaining was demolished earlier this year!) Here is a closer view to give a better idea of what will be the final effect Not to be outdone, I've got a new building project of my own on the go now! The one thing I did manage during the week in my lonely hotel room was to produce a drawing for the west elevation (facing the public) of the coaling stage. Thanks here must go to the Return to Grantham site and in particular a series of photos accompanying an article provided by Roy@34F of this parish (the descriptions of what the various rooms were used for is fascinating http://returntograntham.co.uk/loco-department-staff/roy-vinter/in-and-around-the-loco/) Here, the west wall has been cut out from 3mm ply sheet including the openings for the various doors and windows. Those 'in the know' might realise that, as per the usual principle of compromise, my model will be a scaled down version with less windows and doors. Here's where I'm up to to date, with a basic ply box structure created, ready for the wall decoration to be added (that'll keep me quiet for a few evenings) And here's what the scenery boys got up to. Firstly, the works yard that is part of the scenic transition from town to country, is complete in its basic form (detail can of course be added for ever...) Meanwhile, further ground treatment has included turning the field on the public side of the Nottingham line into a open meadow (of the sort of terrain that can be seen in some of the Keith Pirt photos in the Peascliffe tunnel area). In fact, it was quite a significant milestone at the weekend as the work undertaken means that there is now an unbroken sweep of scenery from the top of the tunnels to the town (the final 'gap' to be bridged was the above works yard). This view - with added trains(!) - records that moment. It represents a significant amount of work not only by myself but also the scenic co-conspirators over the last 12 months or so. Once again, little detail bits n pieces can be added to our heart's content but at least there's no bare woodwork looking at us any more. To give an idea of what an accomplishment this is, this is a view of the same area (not quite the same viewpoint sadly) from Oct 2013. No laurel resting though - onwards and upwards! Edited July 27, 2015 by LNER4479 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted July 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 27, 2015 Hi, LNER4479. What excellent progress on an already top quality layout. After the question of telegraph poles on Peterborough North as well as Little Bytham, I wonder if you are going to put any poles onto Grantham? I think that they would add a further dimension to this already extraordinary layout. With best regards, Market65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
61070 Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Truly wonderful stuff 4479 and crew – and thanks for the mention of our site. Our page view stats got very excited the last time you gave us a plug! Now here’s a shot of an even more ‘out of period lorry’ which you could add at bottom left of your final pic! Just a week or so ago. Note the latest ‘convertible-style’ fold-down trailer bodywork. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 Hi, LNER4479. What excellent progress on an already top quality layout. After the question of telegraph poles on Peterborough North as well as Little Bytham, I wonder if you are going to put any poles onto Grantham? I think that they would add a further dimension to this already extraordinary layout. With best regards, Market65. Yes, definitely need to add the infamous telegraph poles - at some stage (to copy a phrase from the building trade: a 'second fix' item). There does seem to be a bewildering array of them. As well as the expected run along the mainline, there seemed to be a run going right through the middle of the depot! There are also copious amounts of gas lamps all over the place in our era as well. Not sure though how totally practical a mass of such protrusions will be for a transportable layout - one false move and you could wipe out a considerable number in one stroke. Needs to be thunked about somewhat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted July 27, 2015 Author Share Posted July 27, 2015 Truly wonderful stuff 4479 and crew – and thanks for the mention of our site. Our page view stats got very excited the last time you gave us a plug! Well, it has to be my thanks to you and crew John. I was REALLY stuck for the details on the west side of the coal stage. All the pictures I had in books were either from t'other side, or have a (very nice)loco in the way. And then I went to the RTG site and, after a bit of digging around, lo and behold, someone had obviously gone round making a comprehensive record immediately prior to demolition. Miracle of miracles, there was a view almost plumb square on of the west elevation with nothing in the way. As I mentioned above, this is the side that'll be facing the public (and right at the front of the layout to boot). I'm hoping therefore that with your help I should be able to create quite a distinctive creation of this building and its immediate surroundings. Keep watching as it'll need to grow quite quickly over the next few weeks (just spent an hour on it now!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrir Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 Could a 3.5mm or even a 2.5mm mono jack be a solution for future removable lamps? The male part could be on the lamp base that simply plugs into the female part that is sited at the relevant position on layout - with the added benefit that it automatically gives you a potential electrical connection if later still you fancied making the lights functional! Given that most photos I have seen of Grantham Depot show solid cylindrical lamp poles, I suspect this could be a viable solution... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 28, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2015 That sounds really clever. I've used some lovely lamps on a small EM layout I have ( can't remember the name at the mo but from east Yorkshire I think. EMLectronics is it?) I cold not fathom a suitable and easy demountable connection system at all. Your idea sounds quick and easy. Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Could a 3.5mm or even a 2.5mm mono jack be a solution for future removable lamps? The male part could be on the lamp base that simply plugs into the female part that is sited at the relevant position on layout - with the added benefit that it automatically gives you a potential electrical connection if later still you fancied making the lights functional! Given that most photos I have seen of Grantham Depot show solid cylindrical lamp poles, I suspect this could be a viable solution... Now you might just be on to something there... Hmm! I'll have to have a mooch round next time I'm in Maplins (or do such small plugs need to be ordered from a more specialist supplier?) If you can tear your gaze away from the main item of interest in this view (from Dave F's magnificent photo collection), you'll see an example of the sort of lighting that typified our era - but I reckon the same principle could be made to apply. OK - that's the lamps 'sorted'. Just need to come up with a similar 'plug in' option for the telegraph poles... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 28, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2015 Plug in for poles: Greenscene (is it?) tube (or brass if you are posh) inserted in board so that pole slots into it. Simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Simples indeed. The instructions re which pole goes where might not be quite so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mike Bellamy Posted July 28, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2015 I've used some lovely lamps on a small EM layout I have ( can't remember the name at the mo but from east Yorkshire I think. EMLectronics is it?) Nearly right - I guess you mean RMLectronics ? http://www.rmlectronics.co.uk/ On the shop page they have a number of different yard and station lamps . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium great northern Posted July 28, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2015 Yes, definitely need to add the infamous telegraph poles - at some stage (to copy a phrase from the building trade: a 'second fix' item). There does seem to be a bewildering array of them. As well as the expected run along the mainline, there seemed to be a run going right through the middle of the depot! There are also copious amounts of gas lamps all over the place in our era as well. Not sure though how totally practical a mass of such protrusions will be for a transportable layout - one false move and you could wipe out a considerable number in one stroke. Needs to be thunked about somewhat... That's another can of worms you are about to open then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gr.king Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Superb buildings. You need to hang on to that Mr Bolton, he's very handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted July 28, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2015 (edited) To give an idea of what an accomplishment this is, this is a view of the same area (not quite the same viewpoint sadly) from Oct 2013. IMG_8042.JPG Just realised that train is mine - obviously time travel has allowed a once great GC 4-6-0 (Earl Roberts of Kandahar) to be available to pull a fully fitted train southbound through Grantham. Sadly no progress made on making the train any longer ... yet! But it does show the giant steps being made in completing the layout. Baz Edited July 28, 2015 by Barry O 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold teaky Posted July 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2015 Simples indeed. The instructions re which pole goes where might not be quite so... Plug into a storage box in the same sequence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 28, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2015 Nearly right - I guess you mean RMLectronics ? http://www.rmlectronics.co.uk/ On the shop page they have a number of different yard and station lamps . Yes, they did me a commission set of Yard Lamps to my instruction and they were/are lovely. P 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classsix T Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Wow! Things are really moving on Graham, seeing it nearly every day as you probably do, I hope you don't feel progress is glacial? Something to be said for a combined effort layout is that the participants can encourage each other just by having completed their part of the project. Excellent work all round. C6T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 ... seeing it nearly every day as you probably do, I hope you don't feel progress is glacial? I would describe it as the 'Changing Rooms' effect (see - I can watch trashy TV if I put my mind to it!) They used to spend a day and a half surrounded by bare floors, plastering, 'Handy Andy' hammering and banging away (cue for smutty comments) - then, suddenly, in the last hour it all came together as the carpets and furniture went back in, puffed up cushions on the chairs and topped off with a vase of flowers on the table. I think we're into that last hour - at least as far as Grantham Rail Show in September is concerned(!) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted July 28, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 28, 2015 Plug in for poles: Greenscene (is it?) tube (or brass if you are posh) inserted in board so that pole slots into it. Simples I'm planning brass tube for mine, have you been mind reading again Phil? Al. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Jackson Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Plug in for poles: Greenscene (is it?) tube (or brass if you are posh) inserted in board so that pole slots into it. Simples We use this method (brass tube) for our exhibition layout, we use it for nearly everrything, telegraph poles, signals and trees, you can just about see it under the telegraph pole on this pic. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted July 28, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 28, 2015 Blimey, another layout! Looks very good matey. Yes Al, it could be quite difficult for you over the next few months knowing that you know that I know what you know you are thinking; and no, that's not a good idea, wait until later this evening. Quackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 Well, it has to be my thanks to you and crew John. I was REALLY stuck for the details on the west side of the coal stage. All the pictures I had in books were either from t'other side, or have a (very nice)loco in the way. And then I went to the RTG site and, after a bit of digging around, lo and behold, someone had obviously gone round making a comprehensive record immediately prior to demolition. Miracle of miracles, there was a view almost plumb square on of the west elevation with nothing in the way. As I mentioned above, this is the side that'll be facing the public (and right at the front of the layout to boot). I'm hoping therefore that with your help I should be able to create quite a distinctive creation of this building and its immediate surroundings. Keep watching as it'll need to grow quite quickly over the next few weeks (just spent an hour on it now!) It's certainly a great website and a huge amount of information has been gathered not just from the meetings but also from those who mail in their stories, experiences and photos. Not wanting to hijack your thread mate, but here is my currently unfinished effort in 2mm scale of the coaling stage. Best regards, Jeremy 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNER4479 Posted July 28, 2015 Author Share Posted July 28, 2015 Wow! That looks great, mate. Looks like you're going for absolute scale there (an undoubted advantage of working in 2mm). Mine is far more of a compromise by comparison. I've just had a session on mine and absolutely recognise all those shapes and recesses, etc - spooky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROY@34F Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Wow! That looks great, mate. Looks like you're going for absolute scale there (an undoubted advantage of working in 2mm). Mine is far more of a compromise by comparison. I've just had a session on mine and absolutely recognise all those shapes and recesses, etc - spooky! Hi "Robert", Jeremy's model is excellent. I've seen it at the meetings we've had in Grantham (Return to Grantham) and it is more accurate than my memories mentioned previously . I think Jeremy has it spot on . Regards , Roy . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornish trains jez Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Wow! That looks great, mate. Looks like you're going for absolute scale there (an undoubted advantage of working in 2mm). Mine is far more of a compromise by comparison. I've just had a session on mine and absolutely recognise all those shapes and recesses, etc - spooky! Thanks mate! I'm looking forward to seeing Grantham in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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