Kernow Models D6xx Update

[Downendian]

More excitement gents, posted on Kernow's website yesterday.

 

Project update - 26th February 2019 - Production of the next two versions complete
The next two models left the factory and are now on board the vessel MOL TRUTH which is due to dock into Southampton around 4th April.  This does mean the pre-order price offer has now closed.  K2600 and K2605 are in this second shipment with the remaining models expected to be completed soon.

 

so the 1st of my two models, D600 in BR blue is on its way.

Neil 
 

Edited February 27, 2019 by Downendian
Typo on kernow website- missed earlier post too!

[Francis deWeck]

On 26/02/2019 at 19:00, Baby Deltic said:

Speaking of RC model vessels, one of my favourite adverts back in the 80s. My Dad smoked Condor Long Cut in his pipe. Smelt lovely.

 

 

Nice one...my dad's favourite smoke! The sub would be HMS Unrivalled (P45), I presume.

 

Correction to that the sub model is 'T' Class - Unrivalled is 'U' Class, somewhat totally different...so shall we say HMS Tally-Ho (P.317)

Edited February 28, 2019 by Francis deWeck
Adding text for explanatory reasons

[The Stationmaster]

Ship currently anchored south of the Nab anchorage - the So'ton deepwater berth is currently occupied by a ship due to sail tonight/tomorrow.

[JSpencer]

On ‎08‎/‎02‎/‎2019 at 15:16, Southernman46 said:

In an alternate model form ................................... awaiting conversion to 2.4GHz RC, the mast rigging needs a bit of TLC. Hope to get her in the water soon .....................

Apparently the "Navy's here" bit didn't quite happen like that but was a bit of jingoism created for the public at the time ......................... I prefer to believe that it did !

 

 

Lovely ship. I visited the surviving Tribal class HMCS Haida in a Canada a few years back.

 

What scale is the model please? It looks about 1/100th. I do wish 1/100th had taken off for railways, aircraft and military vehicles. It is the "just right" scale for me as you can tie them in with ships.

My pond will support a 1/72nd Flower class corvette and give it room to move (5 metres by 1.5). A destroyer in that scale will struggle.

 

[JSpencer]

On ‎26‎/‎02‎/‎2019 at 18:41, Francis deWeck said:

 

Somewhat O/T, it is cheering to see discussion about the Grey Funnel Line, which you would think was practically invisible these days (exception being these two new carriers [which won't have enough escort ships for practicable purposes]). The poor old Hood, sent two fight a juvenile opponent, name wouldn't be allocated to any new build as I think the Admiralty's nose was severely disjointed from that action. Her companion ship, the Prince of Wales, did for the Bismarck, though gets precious little praise for her actions which were brave for a ship not fully worked up with civilians aboard. Still, that's they way things happened.

 

Going OT - HMS Prince of Wales was sunk herself in one Churchill's disasters in the far east. Admiral Holland should have put Prince of Wales in front to take all the fire from Bismarck. Another thing thing he did was trying to cross the enemie's T. Fine for fleet actions like Trafalger and Jutland but pointless for dealing with a lone raider.  He should have sent the Prince of Wales in close to draw fire and make best use of her armour and fire power while he sat at range allowing Hood's heavier but slower 15inch shells to deliver damaging plunging shots (where both ships were just vulnerable). A ship undisturbed is 10 times more effective in gunnery.

 

HMS Warspite had the biggest battle record of them all yet no diesel loco was named after her until they started using warship names on class 50s.

 

Edited February 28, 2019 by JSpencer

[No Decorum]

Born after your time, Admiral Spencer!  Interesting suggestion, though.

[Southernman46]

7 hours ago, JSpencer said:

 

Lovely ship. I visited the surviving Tribal class HMCS Haida in a Canada a few years back.

 

What scale is the model please? It looks about 1/100th. I do wish 1/100th had taken off for railways, aircraft and military vehicles. It is the "just right" scale for me as you can tie them in with ships.

My pond will support a 1/72nd Flower class corvette and give it room to move (5 metres by 1.5). A destroyer in that scale will struggle.

 

Spot-on - She's 1/96th scale so near 1/100 as makes no odds. It's about the right scale so Destroyer / Frigates are about 4-5ft long - means they are still fit in the car / are "man" handleable and fit x-ways in their storage box at the rear of the garage. 1/72nd puts them just a bit on the awkwardly big side - OK for smaller craft though.

 

Got a 1/96th scale of HMS Plymouth (Rothesay class Frigate) on the slipway too atm - cos she's a Falklands vet, just the name (my 2nd home) and was relatively famous (nearly preserved)-  the main mast is a swine in brass etch construction    

Edited February 28, 2019 by Southernman46

[JSpencer]

11 hours ago, No Decorum said:

Born after your time, Admiral Spencer!  Interesting suggestion, though.

 Thanks but its was actually standard RN practice for engaging a surface raider. It is what Ajax, Achilles and Exeter did when they engaged the Graf Spee in 1939 and what King George V and Rodney would do a few days later when they faced Bismarck for the final show down.

 

I don't think there has been any ships named after Admiral's since WWII as neither Rodney, Nelson, Anson, Howe names have appeared on new ships since despite being used on Battleships in WWII. So it is not just HMS Hood that has not been re-used.

 

I wonder if we will ever see a new warship class of locomotives.

 

11 hours ago, Southernman46 said:

Spot-on - She's 1/96th scale so near 1/100 as makes no odds. It's about the right scale so Destroyer / Frigates are about 4-5ft long - means they are still fit in the car / are "man" handleable and fit x-ways in their storage box at the rear of the garage. 1/72nd puts them just a bit on the awkwardly big side - OK for smaller craft though.

 

Got a 1/96th scale of HMS Plymouth (Rothesay class Frigate) on the slipway too atm - cos she's a Falklands vet, just the name (my 2nd home) and was relatively famous (nearly preserved)-  the main mast is a swine in brass etch construction    

 

A shame HMS Plymouth was scrapped. I hope someday I will find time to do an RC model of HMS Hermione, a ship I served tea on as a scout. 

 

[The Stationmaster]

2 hours ago, JSpencer said:

 Thanks but its was actually standard RN practice for engaging a surface raider. It is what Ajax, Achilles and Exeter did when they engaged the Graf Spee in 1939 and what King George V and Rodney would do a few days later when they faced Bismarck for the final show down.

 

I don't think there has been any ships named after Admiral's since WWII as neither Rodney, Nelson, Anson, Howe names have appeared on new ships since despite being used on Battleships in WWII. So it is not just HMS Hood that has not been re-used.

 

I wonder if we will ever see a new warship class of locomotives.

 

 

A shame HMS Plymouth was scrapped. I hope someday I will find time to do an RC model of HMS Hermione, a ship I served tea on as a scout. 

 

HMS Anson - reportedly going on an Astute class submarine

HMS Nelson - barracks at Portsmouth Naval Base so not available for a ship without renaming the barracks.

HMS Howe, HMS Rodney, and of course HMS Hood - not currently used or planned (and neither have any of the Captain Class names some of whom subsequently became Admirals)

 

Now back to the subject of the thread and Kernow's 'Warships' -   Still at anchor south of the Nab Anchorage and the deep water berth is still occupied by another container ship which would now appear to be due to sail somewhat later than was suggested yesterday, probably this afternoon/evening in view of the ETA at its next port of call.

 

 

 

 

Edited March 1, 2019 by The Stationmaster

[jsp3970]

4 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

Now back to the subject of the thread and Kernow's 'Warships' -   Still at anchor south of the Nab Anchorage and the deep water berth is still occupied by another container ship which would now appear to be due to sail somewhat later than was suggested yesterday, probably this afternoon/evening in view of the ETA at its next port of call.

I am finding vessel finder to be unreliable. It has shown the ship docked, then sailing south, then stationary way to the north, then sailing again to the south, then docked, then back stationary in the north. At this point I am giving up tracking it!

[Francis deWeck]

51 minutes ago, jsp3970 said:

I am finding vessel finder to be unreliable. It has shown the ship docked, then sailing south, then stationary way to the north, then sailing again to the south, then docked, then back stationary in the north. At this point I am giving up tracking it!

A close relationship with the RN Operations Centre in WW2 then!

[Godfrey Glyn]

Well at 19.30 this evening  I see from Ship Finder on my iPhone that the Al Muraykh has just completed the turn off Cowes and is heading up the Solent into Southampton Water. Obviously docking later than originally expected.

 

happy sailing!

 

Godfrey

[Gwiwer]

I too prefer to turn my back on cows given the chance

 

Come to Rick, my beauties, you have been keenly awaited for some little time now. 

[Philou]

At 20:54 hrs (UK time) according to marinetraffic.com she's underway doing 3.4kn on a heading of 285° - at least she's going the right way! Shouldn't be far off her berth.

 

Cheers,

 

Philip

 

PS: If the computer generated map is correct, she's her own length away from the quayside.

[Philou]

Update: Engines stopped (but not yet berthed).

[Philou]

Update: Now moored.

 

Cheers,

 

Philip

[Gwiwer]

You see that container?  That big one over there?  The one with froth all over it?  Camborne, please, driver!!! 

[jsp3970]

46 minutes ago, Gwiwer said:

You see that container?  That big one over there?  The one with froth all over it?  Camborne, please, driver!!! 

Sorry, the froth has infiltrated the container and corroded the mechanisms.

[The Stationmaster]

I wonder how many there are in that container - presumably groupage cargo unless we're even more profligate D6XX purchasers than we thought?   And I wonder how many it would take to fill a container?

 

Now the big question - how shall I collect mine?  An HST trip to my not exactly handy 'local' model shop or arrange to collect at an upcoming show?  Time soon for a chat with some of my former colleagues I think.

[dibber25]

Once had a consignment of 500 locos from Bachmann that came on a single pallet, stacked so high that we couldn't get it in through the doors and had to unpack it in the street! (CJL)

[stephennicholson]

Is it nearly there yet?

[adb968008]

On 02/03/2019 at 08:47, The Stationmaster said:

I wonder how many there are in that container - 

 

Just for fun,  I’ve got a box from a model company here, the carton is big enough for 4 locos in it, with dimensions of 40cm x 27cm x 12cm.

using this website..

https://www.omnicalculator.com/other/cbm-shipping

and entering those dimensions, if the container was packed like sardines, that could theoretically be 2545 boxes... or 10180 locos.

 

I assume  you need some head room for lifting  / pallets.

i doubt there’s 10k D600’s though.

Edited March 3, 2019 by adb968008

[7013]

The suspense is agony, I keep logging in to get the shiiping report to see where the container ship is!

[MartinTrucks]

22 minutes ago, 7013 said:

The suspense is agony, I keep logging in to get the shiiping report to see where the container ship is!

Hopefully unloading is well under way as the ship has been docked at Southampton for a day or so. Sorry, unable to give a more precise time of mooring.

 

Martin

[The Stationmaster]

What matters now is not where the ship is but where the container is and when the groupage stuff will be taken out of it and then clear Customs ready to be forwarded to the appropriate destinations, including Camborne.