RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted November 6, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 6, 2014 Thank you all for your comments. I keep coming back and looking at the photos. The fence, I'm really happy with, It's turned out how I envisaged, but the gate doesn't work for me. I can't pin it down as to why, but I'm not happy with it. Can any of you suggest what's wrong, or what I might do to make it better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Thank you all for your comments. I keep coming back and looking at the photos. The fence, I'm really happy with, It's turned out how I envisaged, but the gate doesn't work for me. I can't pin it down as to why, but I'm not happy with it. Can any of you suggest what's wrong, or what I might do to make it better? It needs a diagonal strengthening bar I believe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Jason T Posted November 7, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2014 With a fence that high, would a full height, solid gate look better? Another thought would be to have more, thinner central bars and a diagonal (as Duncan says), running from the bottom hinge to the top opposite corner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon_1066 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I agree - it is too low. It looks odd due to the drop in height. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I've been thinking back to when I was a kid. I can't remember seeing many high fences even then. The majority that I remember were only about 3 foot high. Although it was down south, I wouldn't know about up north. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted November 7, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2014 Thanks for your ideas. I think I'll swap the gate for a full height one, as Jon and Jason suggested. Something like this: Duncan, I was working off the standard fence panel sizes I've seen at B & Q, Wickes etc, which are mostly 6" (1.83m) x 4" (1.2m) or 6" x 5". Certainly round here there are a lot of wooden fences higher than my head - this is not just 'cos I'm a short-ar$e... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHemmings Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 That looks more the hight but a bit more rustic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold westerhamstation Posted November 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2014 Hi Al, maybe something like one of these. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) Love the old fencing, it's got that.....nagh it last another year or too, if I quickly paint it.....look.....LOL As for the gate agree taller one is sure to look good, and more uprights.....a couple doesn't really hack it.....so Adrians would look good,although i personally like the curved top..... needs a smug cat perched on top......and a diminutive dog underneath.....hehe Edited November 7, 2014 by Jaz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted November 7, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2014 Al, I agree you need a taller gate. As for the fence it looks really good but I do not remember fences of that style around that time. The only tall fences I remember were where I lived and they were the 'feathered' variety, but I grew up on a council estate and I think councils had shares in whoever made them as they were still being used in 1980 when they built my house I live in now. Like Duncan I lived down south so things may have been different in the Peaks. You could always do a 3ft chain link fence............ (Runs for cover.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 My you have been busy since I last looked in. Again stunning modelling. The work round the station masters house looks excellent. I love the fence as it really looks the part with the individually made panels. I agree with the other sentiments that the gate would look better the same height as the fence, although I do like the gate that you have made. Look forward to seeing some more pictures, will look superb when it's placed on the layout. Will be a lovely back drop to the station. Cheers for now. Marcus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted November 7, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2014 Thanks for all your comments and ideas. Here's what I decided to go with. I took a strip of the Slater's 4mm planking, and cut off a length to the height of the gate: Then I cut between each plank, and seperated them, and then discarded one plank. Then I re-arranged the rest to the original width: I used the tip of the scalpel blade to nudge everything into line: and then glued it together. I added a diagonal brace: when that was all dry, I used a five pence piece to cut the curve in the top of the gate: I then built another one, this time with two diagonal braces, but otherwise the same, and added the details of the hinges, handle, and latch: Here's the replacement fence gate in position: and here's the gate from the road: Just need to paint these up now, the same timber / ronseal colour for the fence gate, and I was thinking white with black fittings for the road gate. What do you think? Oh, forgot to say, here's a crop of a photo of the prototype, which shows that it did have the same sort of fencing in the late 50s: Cheers, Al. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emt_911 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Nicely done Al. With the photo as reference, can't fault it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jock67B Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Nothing I can really add ther Al, universally liked! And such speed well done mate. Kind regards, Jock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted November 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2014 Hi Al, I'm loving your fence, and the new gate definitely looks more in keeping. Wow, I've also just noticed your drainpipe going into a drain! Obvious I know, but I don't remember seeing this modelled. (I'll now cower as everyone tells me that they have indeed modelled this themselves.) cheers J 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted November 8, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2014 The gates are now painted. First, the front gate leading to the road: This was painted in gloss white, and it really didn't go very well, but at normal viewing distances it looks ok. Then, the back gate leading to the garden: and a more distant view: And finally I added a brick-built "Thingy" Don't ask me what it's for, or what its proper name is, all I know is we had one at my parent's house, and it was used for keeping broken plant pots, tangled up hosepipes, and other assorted junk in... Thanks for looking, Al. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted November 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2014 I think if your brick-built thingy had a glass top, then it'd be cold frame for propagating plants. If it had a solid top, and a little hole at the side then my guess would be a coal bunker. We had something like that when I was a kid. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted November 8, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2014 Cheers Jason, Yes, I think it was probably originally a coal bunker, although I don't actually remember a slot at the side or bottom for the coal to come out. As I recall the lids were asbestos - nice healthy stuff... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted November 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2014 On ours it was a little hole just wider than a shovel, the brick base and around the outside meant it was easier to fill a bucket. The hole also had a metal cover that slid up and down to keep the coal in and the wet out. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted November 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2014 Nicely finished off Al. I like your brick built 'thingy'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JCL Posted November 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2014 May I be the first to congratulate you on making 99 pages! I've only just noticed that you are only one page away from making the ton. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted November 8, 2014 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 8, 2014 Ooh, thanks Jason, I hadn't even noticed Blimey! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 The brick built thingy is a lovely touch. Nicely modelled indeed sir. Oh, and the gates look superb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Nice work Al, been awhile since I visited last. Always like to see how you do things, helps me with my,....Can't paint/won't paint syndrome 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Brilliant Al. Gate and "thingy" both look superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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