Tim H Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) Wow. I don't think I have ever seen a Peak hauling Mk3s on a service train. Or maybe I just am not in the right place at the right time? Don't think it was ever common. But I did see a 45/1 on a full rake of Mk3s in Inter-City livery at Dawlish in 1988, two weeks before the last Peaks were switched off. I think it was substituting for a booked pair of 31/4s. Can't remember the exact working, except it was a Summer Saturday to Paignton. Since they were officially banned west of Bristol by that point, it was almost certainly the last Peak on a service train in Devon. Edited November 5, 2014 by Tim H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) I thought I would reserect this, as I have always been really interested in rare workings. (I have never counted rail tours as a rare working) I came across 20001 and 20016 at Reading during may 1985 I have also just found this http://andygibbs.zenfolio.com/p726940309/h3D8F95CA#h236f071a Running through a few in my head... Someone posted up a pic of 40001 at Eastleigh on here recently. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/81988-class-40-pics-and-detail-differences-in-the-class/page-6 Also those 45s that worked to Brighton briefly were very unusual http://andygibbs.zenfolio.com/p726940309/h3D8F95CA#h373de496 50020 worked out of Kings Cross in 1978 I saw a Scot rail 47 at Bristol once A few pics were posted up of the odd 40 at Bristol The 2 73s to Birmingham are on here Another http://andygibbs.zenfolio.com/p726940309/h3D8F95CA#h3594c1ee 37109 at Brighton http://andygibbs.zenfolio.com/p726940309/h3D8F95CA#h9f841a4 Edited November 26, 2020 by SouthernBlue80s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Anyone know the rarest place a 33 got to in BR days? or a 25 for that matter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted December 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) A 33/1 got to Newcastle in '83-ish with a couple of Gatwick Express sets, on the pre-service tour Re: the ScotRail 47 at Bristol, I believe they ran in that livery, with original names, for some time after they moved south. I've seen some footage on YouTube where they looked decidedly manky, I think they were just put straight into service despite being pretty much knackered from their push-pull service. Edited December 6, 2016 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 6, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2016 Don't know where might be rare for a 25 - ubiquitous comes to mind! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim H Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Don't know where might be rare for a 25 - ubiquitous comes to mind! Phil Were they ever common anywhere on the Southern Region? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vince minto Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 the 33 at Newcastle was a rarity.Pity it wasn't in normal service 33113 Newcastle 14-3-84 33113 Newcastle 15-3-84 33113 Gateshead 15-3-84 vince 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Claude_Dreyfus Posted December 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Edit: Beaten to it with 33113! Don't know where might be rare for a 25 - ubiquitous comes to mind! Phil 25191 made it to Littlehampton with 33011 with a railtour back in July 1986. http://www.railwayherald.co.uk/imagingcentre/view/258729/RD Edited December 6, 2016 by Claude_Dreyfus 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Were they ever common anywhere on the Southern Region? Class 24s were to be found in the early 60s. But that is about it. I wonder if anyone ever saw a BR blue 25 on the southern? Another has sprung to mind. Class 31 at Stewarts lane after Royal train duties. Whats the furthest south a 26 or 27 got on a regular working? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) I have just seen your post, so perhaps that 25 on the railtour was the only visitor. A nice picture here, from your link, at Salisbury http://www.railwayherald.co.uk/imagingcentre/view/252729/RD Edited December 6, 2016 by SouthernBlue80s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Class 24s were to be found in the early 60s. But that is about it. I wonder if anyone ever saw a BR blue 25 on the southern? Another has sprung to mind. Class 31 at Stewarts lane after Royal train duties. Whats the furthest south a 26 or 27 got on a regular working? Back in1967 or 1968, I saw D7667 at Clapham Junction- one of the few to be delivered in BR Blue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted December 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2016 Were they ever common anywhere on the Southern Region? Would have worked across from Willesden onto the SR to Norwood? Don't know how often though. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisf Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I was on a railtour to Inverness with a pair of 33s. 31st March/1st April 1995. Chris. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted December 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2016 Class 24s were to be found in the early 60s. But that is about it. I wonder if anyone ever saw a BR blue 25 on the southern? Another has sprung to mind. Class 31 at Stewarts lane after Royal train duties. Whats the furthest south a 26 or 27 got on a regular working? Heading onto the SR at Acton Wells http://www.derbysulzers.com/25235actonwells84.jpg As for 26 and 27, certainly Carlisle. Class 31s were common on the SR in the 70s on Bristol - Portsmouth workings. Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernBlue80s Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) Heading onto the SR at Acton Wells http://www.derbysulzers.com/25235actonwells84.jpg As for 26 and 27, certainly Carlisle. Class 31s were common on the SR in the 70s on Bristol - Portsmouth workings. Dave Thanks for the picture of the 25. Out of interest when did the switch take place from 31s to 33s on that service... 79ish? Another ...to answer my own question. Some one posted up a picture of a class 26 at Frodingham. I will try and find the picture now. Here it is http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/79590-jeffps-photos-early-70s-and-80s/ Edited December 6, 2016 by SouthernBlue80s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 6, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2016 (edited) As for 26 and 27, certainly Carlisle. There was a regular diagram for a Class 26 to bring the Cumbrian Coast mail to Preston in the late 80s/early 90s. http://www.prestonstation.org.uk/photoarchive/displayimage.php?album=91&pid=2192#top_display_media In the days of extras for Four Nations (as it was then) rugby specials. The Scotland-Wales fixture always turned up some unusual stuff. I remember a pair of 26's travelling via the S&C as the WCML was closed for maintenance, as far as Preston on a Sunday with the returning Welsh support. They returned north light engine. Cheers, Mick Edited December 6, 2016 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Thanks for the picture of the 25. Out of interest when did the switch take place from 31s to 33s on that service... 79ish? The class 33s took over the Cardiff - Portsmouth workings from the May 1980 timetable change, having handed over the Waterloo - Exeter workings to class 50 haulage at the same time, cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 Here are some class 25s on the Southern at Clapham Junction 25120 taken by Brian Daniels https://www.flickr.com/photos/brianews/5804944671/in/photolist-9QXRNX D7530 in green https://www.flickr.com/photos/tibshelf/9543399479/in/photolist-fxjqbk-iv5Rne-HmNLP2-jJhED8-gbiTLK-ga2kgx-pGbYnj-edTsm6-nWhCV2-ca9gw9-ga2k8X-qD26xt-edZ9ao-jvT5bu-gbioKQ-ga2kd6-edZ9mu-DJsxAK-ELrSaf-F2coy7-CGeqt9-FLmEqy-zz499N-xQhkCo-yXQxfx-q5q63X-p8CB6N-yXkdHm-wu7GMA-q5fw7k-pN2K15-zcFhrq-oeyp1v-NkD3QC-PnGuP6-ALXETJ-PdrmS8-NXZmuG-NB8N9Y-NziQHh-My768m-M7Cnuh-KTiDbu-L4Gwaw-KGAyWk-KLCWh3-JT41tR-KE91um-ee7yAF-qAUuLU 25081 at Clapham Junction https://www.flickr.com/photos/brian_trains/5011454117/in/photolist-8CR1Hk-nQHmNY-anNMs5-aoyKzo-ga1K9Y-pxisQN-oSpVbh-anL6ri-anL4EK-anL6A4-r9d98m-aS2PkX-bZ8zE9-qZBKA4-gamL5e-aF9Z3m-ganpPv-qmLtGa-fxjqbk-iv5Rne-HmNLP2-jJhED8-gbiTLK-ga2kgx-pGbYnj-edTsm6-nWhCV2-ca9gw9-ga2k8X-qD26xt-edZ9ao-jvT5bu-gbioKQ-ga2kd6-edZ9mu-DJsxAK-ELrSaf-F2coy7-CGeqt9-FLmEqy-zz499N-xQhkCo-yXQxfx-q5q63X-p8CB6N-yXkdHm-wu7GMA-q5fw7k-pN2K15-zcFhrq And 5183 at Hither Green https://www.flickr.com/photos/138063305@N03/24290197643/in/photolist-petDax-gA1hfg-dHUfHh-gA1m7K-oSpVbh-sBmssA-ie5wU9-hS4TiJ-HM9Jg4-kbXY33-h8Hucf-p9qnWS-7S4zGK-gA19oz-gzZKyA-p4U6cQ-o12kR8-nDSjFn-nakQAy-nbubFP-gzXSiF-9eESPc-9eETxR-gzX1po-D1rBv6-7P34Hi-x77vip-x75VXt-MEUtvy-METfwQ-My768m-KdLQCi-CGQ7XH-HHHVjL-gzXiU4-dN7mfp-GR4WSi-gzZXUN-e61XnZ-nbxSES-cs4QkL-HEvsyi-xhgt39-qqBtUA-xiv5hm-Ac3L3y-s9bRqe-Aem3V4-zWxhfU-zWvMzS cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted December 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2016 Would have worked across from Willesden onto the SR to Norwood? Don't know how often though. Dave There's plenty of photos of them passing through Kensington Olympia in the late 1960/ early 1970s. In fact I think Kenny O might be able to claim that every diesel class has passed through at some point. Not seen a photo of a 26s but one must have got across from the ER before they went north... Here's a nice photo account of a class 40 trip to Hither Green from Stratford. https://www.flickr.com/photos/95430950@N07/albums/72157637360615626 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted December 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2016 Others got there before me but I seem to remember seeing a 25 most times I went to Clapham Junction on freight ....which would suggest a daily basis Further south - perhaps the Coast east of Brighton - would probably qualify as rare Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Class 33 regular at Birmingham New Street on the incoming FO Weymouth - Leeds during early/mid 80's 16:30 ish ex New Street IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Horse Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 One that immediately springs to mind is from my first ever All-Line Railrover in 1986. I'd had a nice complicated overnight move on the Friday/Saturday to end up at Sheffield (26/07) to get the gronk shunting the stock from the 05:58 Bradford - Poole onto the rear of the 06:52 Leeds - Poole. I then did train behind 45111 to Birmingham New St. I then did 31464 & 31432 on the 08:40 Liverpool - Paignton which failed in the tunnel before Five Ways. So we set back into New Street and Saltley very kindly provided 58025 which we took quite happily to Bristol. Of course the Bristol lads weren't happy as it got taken off there for 50041. Halcyon days indeed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted December 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2016 Class 33 regular at Birmingham New Street on the incoming FO Weymouth - Leeds during early/mid 80's 16:30 ish ex New Street IIRC. Portsmouth Harbour to Leeds, 27th April 1984. Note the obligatory 'Windmiller' in the first coach. Engine worked as far as Birmingham New St, where it changed for anything Saltley wanted to lose for a few days. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D1059 Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 Don't know where might be rare for a 25 - ubiquitous comes to mind! Phil How about this one 25s on the GWML on freight were not unusual (but not everyday occurances either), but on passenger were much rarer, even on specials such as this, and even then they would mainly be double headed so Type 4 timings could be maintained Tough Job For A Little Un by Stephen Dance, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted December 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2016 How about this one 25s on the GWML on freight were not unusual (but not everyday occurances either), but on passenger were much rarer, even on specials such as this, and even then they would mainly be double headed so Type 4 timings could be maintained Tough Job For A Little Un by Stephen Dance, on Flickr I see that someone had the good sense to put it on the Relief Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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