RMweb Gold Downendian Posted November 23, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2014 Yes See http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/92766-news-from-warley-2014/?p=1674450 Neil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf27 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 From Warley today S1730009 by Shane Wilton, on Flickr S1730010 by Shane Wilton, on Flickr S1730016 by Shane Wilton, on Flickr S1730017 by Shane Wilton, on Flickr S1730018 by Shane Wilton, on Flickr cheers Shane 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MikeParkin65 Posted November 23, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 23, 2014 Nice looking model and the examples on display were well finished but expensive in my opinion with the rrp at £129 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium ColinK Posted November 24, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2014 Looks really nice. Hope the couplings don't have the Heljan droop. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 The real good news is that the tooling will be made capture subtle variations between class members, A first for Heljan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Delamar Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 Model looks superb, hope they can do the Midland region version with the tooling. Slightest of gripe is still with the way they print their british railways crest, doesn't look as sharp as other manufacturers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Did anyone catch when these 05s are due? Or hear anything about the Park Royal drb which is advertised as available November? Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Did anyone catch when these 05s are due? Or hear anything about the Park Royal drb which is advertised as available November? Stewart A notice on the display case indicated in the first few months of 2015, but I can't remember the exact month. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Hope they get the front "Hunslet" plate better, it looks crap. The real thing is such a big feature of the front of the shunter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMJ Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 If you don't like the plate why not replace with an etching? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted December 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2014 The cab looks odd to me. But then I have only seen one real 05, THE 05. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2014 The cab looks odd to me. But then I have only seen one real 05, THE 05. The Heljan offering is the later batch with the large high cab. D2574 upwards. Easily recognised with horizontal section of glass along the top edge of the side windows. If you are referring to the IOW D2554/05001, it has a lower cab. There's a good pic of D2578 here There are quite a few variations amongst the class - cab, buffers, round/square cornered cab windows, external radiator pipes, etc. Plenty of info earlier in the thread. Never mind an even bigger multitude of variations amongst industrial examples of the same basic design Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
locoholic Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Sorry if this is a silly question, but where is the exhaust on a Class 05? I can't see anything suitable on the photos of the Heljan one, apart from the obvious chimney thing on Cider Queen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2014 Sorry if this is a silly question, but where is the exhaust on a Class 05? I can't see anything suitable on the photos of the Heljan one, apart from the obvious chimney thing on Cider Queen. The exhaust pipe is located towards the front left (when looking from the cab) of the bonnet top. It's quite short. D2554/05001 gained an extension tube about 12" long. https://www.flickr.com/search?text=hunslet%20d2554&sort=relevance Cheers, Mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) Sorry if this is a silly question, but where is the exhaust on a Class 05? I can't see anything suitable on the photos of the Heljan one, apart from the obvious chimney thing on Cider Queen. It's just to the side of the front bonnet top handrail at the front of the loco. It is on the model if you look closely. The Chimney was a dummy put on by Bulmers to fit in with having GWR 6000 KGV and it's copper capped chimney. The one on the model of Cider Queen should be accurate as it was modeled using photos and dimensions of the real one which is now in use as a flower pot holder!!!. Here's a photo showing the exhausts position. Paul J. Edited to add clarity to part of post. Edited December 1, 2014 by Swindon 123 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2014 The Heljan offering is the later batch with the large high cab. D2574 upwards. Easily recognised with horizontal section of glass along the top edge of the side windows. If you are referring to the IOW D2554/05001, it has a lower cab. There's a good pic of D2578 here There are quite a few variations amongst the class - cab, buffers, round/square cornered cab windows, external radiator pipes, etc. Plenty of info earlier in the thread. Never mind an even bigger multitude of variations amongst industrial examples of the same basic design Cheers, Mick Hi Mick Don't forget wheel diameter, overall length as well. Different size wheels was enough for the GWR class the Saints, Halls and Granges as different classes. The ER classed the early locos as DJ13, later D2/8 and then 2/15A. The later btaches were DJ13/2, D2/9 and 2/15. The ER mamnagement saw them as 2 classes. It was Ian Allan who placed them in one class in their ABCs. Of course much late the sole example of the Hunslet 204hp 0-6-0s ands the last remaining Barclay 204hp 0-6-0 were both lumped into the same class, Class 05 In my mind as the 2/15s had all been withdrawn by the time TOPS came into being they should not be called 05s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted December 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 1, 2014 I am still building a A1 05 kit!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 Received an Email from Hattons stating they now expect these Sept to Dec 15. Anyone heard why there is a delay of 8 -10 months? Considering they had full decorated samples at Warley, I was expecting them around 6 months from that date not a full year. Obviously not life changing but all these delays are becoming a bit of a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Heljan used to be quite rapid from annoucement to delivery, say about 18 months. But they seem to have slowed down in recent times and are more like 3 years now. I wonder why? Are they paying closer attention to development now to avoid hit and miss scenarios? Or problems with supply in China? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacon butty Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Unfortunately this seems to be the case with most of the manufacturers right now and not just Heljan. You will see models that in essence look ready to go in full production with just livery samples needing approval, then all of a sudden the release date is at least 6 months on or so. I have seen this on the Bachmann 10000, 10001 and class 43. I guess it's where we are with getting these hi spec models - I'm sure it will be worth the wait... One thing I would say is that over the last year or so Heljan have really raised their game. The 128 for instance is a real quality model. Stuart Edited February 9, 2015 by bacon butty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FelixM Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 I assume they have moved the point of announcement of a new model earlier in the development process. This may be because fewer prototypes remain unmodelled so a possible competitor is developping the same model with a higher probability than in old times. A competitor may make the developments up to the point of announcement worthless in the worst case so this may be a reason why manufacturers progressivly turn to play safe and announce way ahead instead of make surprise releases. My opinion. Felix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spackz Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/category/OO%20Locomotives%20and%20Units?start=11&order=NULL Pre production samples of all the class 05s, park royals and Met bo bo, are now on HowesModels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Heljan looking at a July release according to the latest Kernow newsletter: http://www.kernowmodelrailcentre.com/pg/100/Newsletter-Current Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrushVeteran Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 The 05's will be on their way during June. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class37418stag Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Hi all and a happy new yearThis one just says limited editionhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/58263865@N05/6882548551/in/gallery-adogriff-72157631810839880/ I has search about Heljan class 05 NCB limited edition on website but nothing to seen or heard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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