Rusty.J Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Have to wonder why they persist with those vile motor destroying set controllers! Otherwise a nice set Had 2 of them for 2 years...Still work as expected and have had no issue at all. Still have them with me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JhornG201 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Having been able to pick up one of the TTS P2s recently, I've noticed that the exhaust beat doesn't match with the wheel revolution of a 3 cylindered loco. Has anyone been able to play with the CVs of the TTS decoder and adjusted them to give a more realistic exhaust beat? If so, which CV(s) and to what value(s) should I set them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shunny Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Having been able to pick up one of the TTS P2s recently, I've noticed that the exhaust beat doesn't match with the wheel revolution of a 3 cylindered loco. Has anyone been able to play with the CVs of the TTS decoder and adjusted them to give a more realistic exhaust beat? If so, which CV(s) and to what value(s) should I set them? That's because Hornby only have a 2 and 4 cylinder tts sound file they never bothered to do a 3 cylinder which is odd as 3 of the first tts loco's were all 3 cylinder, P2, A4, and A1. As it is the sound file which is wrong for the loco type adjusting the cv's wont make much difference I'm afraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hat Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 That's because Hornby only have a 2 and 4 cylinder tts sound file they never bothered to do a 3 cylinder which is odd as 3 of the first tts loco's were all 3 cylinder, P2, A4, and A1. As it is the sound file which is wrong for the loco type adjusting the cv's wont make much difference I'm afraid. I was of the opinion that Hornby copied their sound files and recordings off Tornado - the two whistles the engine has being a particular reference to this. Hence it is a 3 cylinder engine that is recorded. Despite this, the sound files don't match the wheel revolution for the A1 or P2. Because it is a TTS chip there is no way to change the CV settings. Its a case of like it for its worth or replace the chip if needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted October 17, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 17, 2015 For a £25 sound chip are you actually complaining? If you dont like it then spend £100 on an ESU chip. I feel these are most likely aimed at the younger modellers. Hence the Railroad releases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JhornG201 Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Thanks for all the advice. I've decided to get a new P2 sound chip from Digitrains. From a video on youtube, it sounds much better than the TTS chip and will hopefully be a simple quick-change act Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fireline Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 I was of the opinion that Hornby copied their sound files and recordings off Tornado - the two whistles the engine has being a particular reference to this. Hence it is a 3 cylinder engine that is recorded. Despite this, the sound files don't match the wheel revolution for the A1 or P2. Because it is a TTS chip there is no way to change the CV settings. Its a case of like it for its worth or replace the chip if needed. When I asked, I was told that each engine's sound is "built" from recordings. Clearly, with the P2, they had to shop around for another source. However, having listened to Tornado, I hear it as a 3 cylinder. There is a definitely different note every third beat. As far as the synch for the wheels and exhaust, I was told that this was one of the compromises of making such an affordable sound chip. It does seem to meet in certain places on the speed scale, but not in others. This seems to suggest that adjusting it for one place would make another worse! You can change some TTS CV's, but I don't want to, because if I c*ck it up, I can't just get the chip re-written! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 The front wheels on the P2 remind me of a supermarket trol[y got a min of thire own . They will not navigate the extended 4th radius curve I have as the 4-6-2s do, keep jumping off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Corbs Posted October 30, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 30, 2015 Are you going to rebuild it as a pacific? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 YEs they are a spot on the lively side - great for checking out the accuracy of your track laying though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Would the P2s have ever run in Wartime Black I know by 1942 most would have been rebuilt . But i think they might look even more of a mighty power unit . A Rail Road version might get a revamp in time Hmm ?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 No , gone by 1937. http://www.lner.info/locos/P/p2.php Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted October 31, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2015 Would the P2s have ever run in Wartime Black I know by 1942 most would have been rebuilt . But i think they might look even more of a mighty power unit . A Rail Road version might get a revamp in time Hmm ?. Hey it's your model. If you want to run it in wartime black then go ahead. I'd love to see it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted October 31, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 31, 2015 Wait till next month. Hornby may do the hard work for you in the 2016 announcements Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Would be great if the A4 style P2 was produced by Hornby though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockershovel Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Re being sensitive to track laying, one effect of coming back to US outline after many years away is that I have learnt quite a bit about 8-coupled locos. There are various versions, most with flange less drivers on the 2 & 3 axles, and they are all very sensitive to vertical irregularities in tne track Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2015 Would be great if the A4 style P2 was produced by Hornby though. The front of the P2 boiler barrel is a seperate section so it is very likely they will produce a streamlined P2 at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2015 The front of the P2 boiler barrel is a seperate section so it is very likely they will produce a streamlined P2 at some point. If you open the service sheet 401b on the Hornby website http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/downloads/view/download/item/432 You will see that there is a slope at the front of the chassis top more in keeping with the"A4" style front. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigwordsmith Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 When Simon Kohler was still at Hornby he was quoted as saying that the tooling had been designed to allow for other versions depending on demand Maybe we should all write to his successor to that effect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2015 When Simon Kohler was still at Hornby he was quoted as saying that the tooling had been designed to allow for other versions depending on demand Maybe we should all write to his successor to that effect I'm sure the speed the models sold would be an obvious sign to Hornby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 I do agree with you. But then I think we are talking about Hornby here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Looking at that Keith they just need to mould / produce a new boddy . Come on Hornby get it together produce the A4 style P2 . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted November 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 1, 2015 Looking at that Keith they just need to mould / produce a new boddy . Come on Hornby get it together produce the A4 style P2 . Give them time. They can't do everything right this second. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 I think you may find that Graeme King of this parish has already produced the necessary components. See how he did it here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnyRailMan Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Yes and a great job done by Greame King to as well. I hope Greame sent photos of is work to the powers that be in Hornby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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