250BOB Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 66 taking over the logs, therefore a loco needed for the Sinful tanks - the 47 steps up. I bet Jim's happy behind the wheel of a 47 again ! I think this is Jim and his steed http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O94777/2013/06/19/advanced Hi Dave They normally come past me in Uttoxeter....Jim text me yesterday to tell me it is a 47 on the turn, so I assumed through Uttoxeter.???? Is this route sometimes used for the tanks, ie via Burton, Lichfield and Stafford.?? Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted June 19, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 19, 2013 Hi Dave They normally come past me in Uttoxeter....Jim text me yesterday to tell me it is a 47 on the turn, so I assumed through Uttoxeter.???? Is this route sometimes used for the tanks, ie via Burton, Lichfield and Stafford.?? Bob. Hi Bob, Here's the return http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H02955/2013/06/19/advanced Passes you early in the morning if you fancy it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted June 20, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2013 well i really enjoyed last night, first 47 in a long time and ran like a dream, broke the 60mph barrier too (where linespeed allows i could do 75 light engine!) after the hassle of failing the night before with the 56 last night made up for it, simple job, no problems and a nice loco to boot got some pics that i'll upload later after i have a sleep, the loco is really clean so should make for some nice pictures on its return from derby this afternoon 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted June 20, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) waiting in stafford arrival sidings. onwards to carlisle and onto the train and back into crewe and on to derby Edited November 24, 2013 by big jim 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 More awsome photos Jim!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
250BOB Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Hi Bob, Here's the return http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/H02955/2013/06/19/advanced Passes you early in the morning if you fancy it ? Hi Dave, No, still be asleep then......especially when it's down for a 14.25 return pass of Uttoxeter , that might suit me better. Still with the 47. ?? Regards.... Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted June 20, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2013 yep, 47 still on it, the driver is the one you were talking to in warrington the other week i may go back out to alsager and photograph it again later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpb56125 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Sinfin tanks passing Acton Bridge heading back north. http://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains2013-1/June-2013/29743502_2FRKcm#!i=2586772892&k=9hC3csP&lb=1&s=A Mark http://www.mark5812.smugmug.com 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Trainshed Terry Posted June 20, 2013 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) waiting in stafford arrival sidings. onwards to carlisle and onto the train and back into crewe and on to derby Lets hope that the loco remains in service for many years to come Terry Edited June 20, 2013 by Trainshed Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D421 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 The 47 looks a cracker...Very smart...... Thanks for the updates..... Regards D421 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpb56125 Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 56302 piloted 66850 from Bushbury loop today. http://mark5812.smugmug.com/Trains2013-1/June-2013/29743502_2FRKcm#!i=2591938232&k=WB3K7Dc&lb=1&s=A Mark http://mark5812.smugmug.com 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted June 23, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 23, 2013 (edited) 56302 did indeed pilot the train from bushbury loop, that was plan C, originally a pair of 56 was due to come up to crewe yesterday and i was booked to take them in multi to chirk via chester, that then changed to the 56s coming up to crewe this morning with another driver and for me to drop the logs onto the rear, my concern with that was the length of the train would pretty much stitch up the whole down side of crewe for 10-15 mins while we coupled up and did a brake test. i suggested to control to attach in bushbury loop as it is a long loop with position lights to allow me to drop onto the rear of the 56 under a signalled move and if there were any problems we would not effect any traffic which is what we did, 56105 unfortunatly didn't make it due to not quite being up to scratch after i stopped in crewe to drop off the other driver and 10 mins at winsford jn it was pretty much right away to tebay where i sat for 30 mins to let passenger services past then it was onward to kingmoor non stop again, really struggled today with the headwind, very noticable! passed the 47/56 combo near brock, i didn't know it was running so that was a nice surprise, one photographer patiently waiting at brock certainly got the 'money shot' of them passing here are a few of my pics.... tebay kingmoor, end of the journey another long day but again enjoyable Edited June 23, 2013 by big jim 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 More super photos Jim.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted June 25, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2013 couple of days worth of pictures this time yesterday was road learning from newport to craven arms, travveled down on an arriva service and got the baglan bay logs back north which i worked from craven arms to chirk via crewe a few pics from newport FGW hst FGW 158 another hippo for dave FGW 150 and the ATW 175 then my train came in and todays job was to carry on learning newport but the lack of cab pass meant it wasn't possible, i did however have a cross country one so i was told to go and have a look at banbury to didcot parkway, the only problem being cross country dont call at didcot so i decided to catch one anyway and continue on to reading instead caught a chiltern service from moor st so refreshed that bit of a route while i was at it then waited atbanbury for my train onward to reading, a few pics from banbury this caught me by surprise so a rushed photo newcastle bound voyager voyager and 172 172 heads off to london washwood heath bound 31, again caught me by surprise and on to the building site that is reading, first time i've been there since about 1985 so somewhat different! junipers heading off onto the southern this didn't catch me by surprise but the camera failed to focus! thats one long train! looking back towards didcot not a bad route from banbury to didcot as is the route to reading which is obviously going to see a heck of a lot more changes over the coming months and years, but one thing mr stationmaster what is the split signal at tilehurst all about, by the time the driver explained it to me my head was battered! tomorrow is the teigngrace train from craven arms again, getting on at hereford 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steadfast Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Hi Jim, A very interesting thread, thanks for posting the pictures of your daily travels, you get a lot further than I'd ever imagine! I did think of you today as I snapped 56094 at Pilning working hard climbing away from the Sever Tunnel heading for Teigngrace. Top stuff, keep it coming! jo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Thanks for posting these great photo's Jim. Just a quick question - are there often empty wagons on this log train from South Wales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted June 25, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2013 not normally john but the one yesterday had a couple of empties, don't know why whether it was loading problems or weight limits as it had 19 wagons on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnH Posted June 25, 2013 Share Posted June 25, 2013 Thanks for the reply Jim. All the best, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 25, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) not a bad route from banbury to didcot as is the route to reading which is obviously going to see a heck of a lot more changes over the coming months and years, but one thing mr stationmaster what is the split signal at tilehurst all about, by the time the driver explained it to me my head was battered! It's just a plain common or garden splitting distant Jim (that being a splitting distant of the modern variety) to suit the left hand high speed running junction at Tilehurst East. The odd thing is that they do not appear to be in the Rule Book (someone will now tell us where they are - with luck) but you will find reference to them near the bottom of this page - http://www.railsigns.co.uk/info/jcnsig1/jcnsig1.html And for spot of amusement have a look at the apparent aspect sequence in this pic - it should show up if you click on the pic to enlarge it. If you can see it there are four successive signals visible in the picture but look carefully at the aspects they are showing Edited June 25, 2013 by The Stationmaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted June 25, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2013 it just looked odd having never seen one, the driver said that they take the least restrictive aspect at it, however if one of the aspects (i think the fastest route one) is not lit then you are stopping at the junction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted June 25, 2013 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2013 is the yellow in the picture to wake the driver up! there used to be a similar scenario between penkridge and stafford, the signal on the down always showed a double yellow if the signals either side were green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2013 is the yellow in the picture to wake the driver up! there used to be a similar scenario between penkridge and stafford, the signal on the down always showed a double yellow if the signals either side were green No - it's the yellow on a 'splitting distant' - if you look very carefully you can see the green just to the left of it and slightly higher and if you look to the right of it you can just make out the green on the next signal in advance of it (which is the junction signal at Ruscombe). So what is there is a succession of greens up the Relief but the signal head to cross to the Main is mounted on the main post and the Relief Line one is elevated to the left of it. I ought really to get over there with the long lens and tripod sometime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruffalo Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 There is supposed to be a move to remove excess signage on and beside roads (roadside clutter). The pictures above suggest that the same thoughts might be applied to the railways. Obviously the driver is not determining the route to follow on a loco whilst the car driver is but that does seem like one hell of a lot to take in without getting confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold roundhouse Posted June 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2013 Looks like I now have an excuse to run a green 31 on Banbury!! Ian 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 26, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2013 There is supposed to be a move to remove excess signage on and beside roads (roadside clutter). The pictures above suggest that the same thoughts might be applied to the railways. Obviously the driver is not determining the route to follow on a loco whilst the car driver is but that does seem like one hell of a lot to take in without getting confused. Not really - the only potential problem is the way the colours might merge and change but presumably the amount of separation ensures that doesn't happen. Otherwise it is just a simple advance indication of the way the route is set and clear at the junction where you don't want trains to unduly reduce speed (as at Ruscombe which is a 70mph running junction). You should have seen the tangle we got into trying to signal the changes to Continental Junctions down in Kent where we were looking at flashing yellows, splitting distants and PRIs (Preliminary Route Indicators) as various alternatives and mixtures - but it all becomes a lot simpler when the Driver knows which way he should be going and knows what aspects he should get for a clear run at line speed. All part of the long developing jungle of British junction signalling where we've spent years trying to reconcile route signalling methods with speed signalling needs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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