Jaz Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 As we are about to see the old year out, I thought I might reprise some of the original Arboretum Valley Not shown on RMWEB before reprise3 reprise1 reprise4 reprise6 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 stupid computer froze.......these were from the MPD reprise11 reprise12 reprise14 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 reprise2 [reprise13 reprise10 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I can put up more old ones if anyone is interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&WR Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Nice to see those familiar old scenes, Jaz! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 Yep, Sometimes wish we had kept it. Still new Year , new challanges Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 reprise17 reprise16 reprise15 Man at work...or so he claimed........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...Kalborough was just a glint in his eye..... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Edited December 31, 2013 by David Todd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Hi Kal,Can you [briefly] summarise what the JMRI and Sprog do? ..... It looks to be quite a user-friendly tool to use .....The pictures and description on how to go about it are very clear, I am not 100% clear of the extent of what it is aiming at. [which quite possibly leaves me at the bottom of the class - but if I don't ask, I will likely stay there .... ] Edited December 31, 2013 by jcredfer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) HI J JMRI, is a suit of tools, that can be use with a DCC setup to: Program Decoders Graphically rather than putting in numbers from a DCC throttle Store those details of the CV's in each decoder for example, if you reset the decoder and then want to reload your settings Copy settings from one loco to another Maintain a database of all your locos. Run Multiple throttles from your PC Set up a diagram of your layout and graphically run trains, both manually and automatically adjust settings on various DCC systems Check the scale speed of locos To use it you need an interface to your DCC system. For Digitrax, you use a PR3 or a Locobuffer, for other DCC systems they have there own Interfaces. The Sprog is a low cost, DCC control station, that has a lower power output and can be used to programme decoders. it can also run One loco as a full DCC control system, in conjunction with JMRI. Sprog also has a a version called SProg 3, that has a higher output and can be used for running a small layout in conjunction with JMRI. So for circa £50, you can buy a sprog, and download JMRI (free) and connect it to a layout to use as a programmer, and if you have the sprog 3 run a number of trains as you would with any DCC system. Not sure if I made that any clearer? Edited January 2, 2014 by Kal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Not sure if I made that any clearer? .... Am home for an hour or so,whilst boiler is being fixed. Should have a bit time,...............to sit down with my new "Sprog",from.......... the 2nd Jan....... Thanks for taking the time to do that........... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Hi Kal, Yep, that hits the spot thank you ....... I will go and read again [probably several times over .. ] I looks to be so much clearer to see the graphics of what you are doing than the rather crude Controller displays. [NB. It occurs to me that it is a bit surprising that the H&B and other larger manufacturers haven't provided a suitable similar thing to use with their better controllers - many of which have computer connections for updates and the like. Perhaps it is just a matter of someone having the idea and getting the others to talk together. That isn't meant to be a controversial comment, it isn't always easy to pull competitors together and they might be doing it as I type. ] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 t They might be doing it as I type. ........Nah......tis New Year's Eve................ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Perhaps they should Party together ... many a good idea has sprung from a libation ............................................................................ only to be completely destroyed when looked at in the sober light of practicality ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Right.... I do not want to start a DCC war, you know these things start from the most simple of statements Hornby, have introduced their own software Railmaster, and it does some of these things but is proprietary to their controllers and it is closed source. Hornby have produced their own Sprog 3, type called E-lync, again I believe, (someone will confirm) it is limited to their own software. I will not get into the which is better, it is a personal choice for people. Edited December 31, 2013 by Kal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Bachmann got ESU to create an OEM controller for them, i.e the Dynamis. IT was promised at the outset that you could buy a PRO box extension and on that would be the means to connect it to a computer. There were other promises about connections but lets not go there. Anyway, suffice to say for what ever reason, it never materialised. So the Dynamis cannot be used to connect to a PC. Edited December 31, 2013 by Kal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) A night view of the old Heartbeat / Greengrasses reprise18 And some of the old MPD reprise19 reprise21 reprise22 reprise23 Edited December 31, 2013 by Jaz 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 37 Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I can put up more old ones if anyone is interested. Hi Jaz & Kal There's so many good layouts on here that's its easy to overlook sometimes. Just had a look through your thread and very impressed. Would love to see some more pictures of the older layout. I especially like the Farm scene. Look forward to following in future. Have a great New Year. Regards Marcus 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Alister_G Posted December 31, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2013 Right.... I do not want to start a DCC war, you know these things start from the most simple of statements Hornby, have introduced there own software Railmaster, and it does some of these things but is proprietary to their controllers and it is closed source. Hornby have produced their own Sprog 3, type called E-lync, again I believe, (someone will confirm) it is limited to their own software. I will not get into the which is better, it is a personal choice for people. Hi Kal, I believe the E-Link is based on the same firmware as the Hornby Elite controller, and therefore JMRI should be useable with it, although with only a limited subset of features. Al. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ChrisN Posted December 31, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) Kal, Thank you for the information on the JMRI and Sprog. At present I intend to use DC when I build my 009 layout as the locos are small as I have not used it before I will stick with what I know. However, if I get onto my 00 layout then it may be a different matter. As one of the reasons is to have something for the grand kids to play with, or play with me, then having it DCC and laptop controlled would be a good idea as they have a completely different view of technology, i.e. they take it as normal. My 16 month old grandson could not work out the other day when he was looking at the laptop why when he brushed the screen the picture did not change like it does on his parents' phones! I can use this as a resource. Thank you. Edited December 31, 2013 by ChrisN 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 Hi Chris Thank-you. It is good to know that this may provide interest to some. My thoughts were also that by being here on a layout thread where someone is actually using it, might prove a little less daunting than those specialised threads that can sometimes become too technical for some. Of course with Children the advantages, that you could keep a child set of CV,s with low speeds for your locos, and add them when the children will play, reverting back to your favoured settings easily when it is time for you to play A master stop button can all be made so if it all goes pear shaped, you can bring everything to a halt. As they progress, allowing them to run, locos on the same track for shunting, passing loops etc can also provide interest. Well, nearer the time, if you want to ask anything, you know where I am. Have a great New Year Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Marcus 37 Hi welcome to Arboretum Valley, Not long after putting our layout up here (may 2013) we were looking at many of the layouts already here, and we could soon see better ways to do things than we had to date. In that time we rationalised that there was a lot of work we were willing to redo, and it seemed more logical to rip up and redo our earliest work. Redoing it has taken a lot longer because the original work had no clear idea it evolved mostly around the tracks, although Goathland station was an exception. However Kal felt that there was issues there that we had not foreseen, so the idea of a facelift...which was two fold... 1. a redo of the Goathland area, especially now having seen some brilliant work on that subject, Sasquatch and Cgraham's finished work being very inspiring. Plus sharing ideas with Silky_Jack and later reference with mkwolf1877, who plans a Goathland himself. 2. the idea of the facelift where elements were removable to gain access to tracks if required, looking at more exhibition layouts allowed us to make this easier. Hopefully we can avoid another radical change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 Hi Kal, I believe the E-Link is based on the same firmware as the Hornby Elite controller, and therefore JMRI should be useable with it, although with only a limited subset of features. Al. Thanks Al, I was not sure. The Elite does work, from what I understand very well with JMRI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted December 31, 2013 Author Share Posted December 31, 2013 .... Am home for an hour or so,whilst boiler is being fixed. Should have a bit time,...............to sit down with my new "Sprog",from.......... the 2nd Jan....... Thanks for taking the time to do that........... Hi Dt Well you know where I am, if you want some pointers as you set it up. Glad you now have some heat from the boiler. Have a good New Year mate. Speak later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgraham Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 I noted as I flew over Goathland Station recently on my Nimbus 2000 that the northern station extension buildings are not in line with the main building and at ground level, the floors of the extensions are at different and lower levels than the main building. I combined and modified Hornby and Bachmann cast models for my representation of Goathland, but am I correct that the newer cast extension models don't accurately represent either the offset or the floor levels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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