jcredfer Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I see Kal has managed to escape from under the end of the right hand bench, at last ....................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Yes I think he is satisfied he now has his dog bone, and you know what dogs are like with their bone..... I expect once we have a little Goathland track that you will be inundated with photos and perhaps videos of locos, trains etc zooming about. Trains from Kalborough will finally have a decent destination, then Sheffield Park will be under attack. Talking of which I am off to go check glue drying...... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Jaz, I'm completely amazed by the scope of this project and the work that has gone into it. There is so much scenery already done and to think you're redoing parts of it. It really puts my bare baseboard to shame. Three years and not a speck of flock or ballast... Thanks for the namecheck by the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Hi Freebs, well... while we are trying to get the sprouts and parsnips out of the way first, you have gone straight to the Pudding. It has left us drooling over what is to come, you tease. Edited January 8, 2014 by Kal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 OH Lol, Freebs I mentioned you as a good scratch builder because you are. Your little team needs a nick name The camaraderie, joking and spurring each other on to new and clever things is just totally inspiring. Plus, the special bit is, you don't do the ....here is a nice finished piece of work I have to show off....you share your how to ideas. I am still blown away by acg_mr's bending plastic, and JCLs machine work, it was your work that encouraged us to try the brick work in the PIR, originally we were just planning some gentle slopes. All great inspirers, and encouraging new ideas. Everyone of you has given me great ideas. I am still keeping Iron Maidens ideas on rust finishing top of the list to emulate as soon as time allows, peeling paint...magnificent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 The camaraderie, Why would they be named after a French cheese Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcredfer Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Good layouts always seem to eminate From age and experience ......... Many seem to have some ancient Battlements or even Rochforts ............ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 even Rochforts ............ Why is everyone so obsessed with Cheese at the moment??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
C&WR Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Jaz, I'm completely amazed by the scope of this project and the work that has gone into it. There is so much scenery already done and to think you're redoing parts of it. It really puts my bare baseboard to shame. Three years and not a speck of flock or ballast... Thanks for the namecheck by the way Aha, there's one area where I can beat you. It was something over 30 years between construction of my baseboard and getting any scenery on it beyond a couple of hand-drawn posters on the side-boards where the station is, a couple of scratch-built pieces (must takes some pics of what my pre-teen self used to build) and a card-and-wood station house! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Love to see those pics, don't you just love nostalgia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I am still keeping Iron Maidens ideas on rust finishing top of the list to emulate as soon as time allows, peeling paint...magnificent. Run to the Hills! (the landscaped ones, that is) 10 points if you get the reference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Run to the Hills! (the landscaped ones, that is) 10 points if you get the reference Sing along 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Oh sugar bags How rude of me, I meant Northern Maiden of course. ..........oops head banging......still Iron Maiden edit== how does one spend these 10 points? Edited January 8, 2014 by Jaz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebs Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Sing along 10 Points to Kal \m/ \m/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Todd Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Posted Yesterday, 12:39 Nah, we just put it up to see if we could get some mug to buy it Me,Me,..........Did I miss something ?............... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 The glue is dry rmweb499teraforming46 the embankments still need more work, of course, but we are slowly getting there, I spend half my modelling time photographing rmweb500terraforming47 Once in situ rmweb501terraforming48 Of course we need ballast, track colouring, I have just removed all the bits for Kal to go sort out the point, then I will attack the ballast, and track cooer and hopefully not before too long retreat from this area, next I will be attacking above the tunnel entrance 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Joining the Big House to the embankment rmweb502terraformiing49 rmweb503terraforming50 without buildings in order to to see the lay of the land rmweb506terraforming53 you might notice the trees in the front are a bit naff in comparison to the similar ones at the back. There are all cheap 3 for 2£ in a beige colour. Kal said they reminded him initially of a bog brush. I repainted them, them copydexed them and shoved them in some cheap grass/turf mix. And pushed them in further so the weedy trunks are not too noticeable. Glue and the basic turf is added edit=oops wrong place but I'll leave it as people rated the post already rmweb509terraforming Edited January 8, 2014 by Jaz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silky_jack Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Excellent! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) A step by step by step.....If people are not bored stiff by now they can feel free to say...So I know it is worthwhile..... Colouring above the tunnel, the facia join at this moment looks really poor rmweb506terraforming54 But get at a small distance and it becomes less conspicuous rmweb507terraforming55 Here you can see the main middle foam 'block' which is set on another thinner sheet in order to raise the tunnel high enough for trains to go through without a cave in. Below the top layer which only covers half the middle layer (try saying that after a drink!!!) the foil has been kept to provide strengthening. But this can only be done if applied to both sees, otherwise curling of the model will occur. you can see I am not too worried about a perfect fit, it encourages more scenic actions, which makes it less and less symmetrical and therefore more realistic (well I hope that's the result) rmweb508terraforming56 glue and basic green turf is added, I've used woodchip types mostly from Hornby mixes, but foam, whatever, is fine....as it's going to be covered don't waste money on anything expensive. N.B. I do lay it on a bit thick at the join because this will need to be disguised..... rmweb509terraforming57 I'll post this as I don't like to put up too many pictures at once in case it crashes. The tunnel facia has a slightly graduated colour not pure black, it is a mic with the front colour. The inside is just flat black. I was tempted to do the stone into the tunnel mouth, as per my earlier try, but I also like the lined tunnels as they have this extra 3D effect, In my opinion both look good. Edited January 8, 2014 by Jaz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) I prefer not to put out too much glue in case of disturbances, door knocking e.g postman, phone ringing etc etc etc, and again as this is the base level you don't need to be too neat and tidy under the gap i go in a little bit to help hide the PIR rmweb510terraforming58 normally I like the fluff to fall naturally i.e. vertically like rain, but with a join like this I lift the foam up on edge and glue and drop the green on the vertical flat front itself otherwise it will not get enough colour to disguise the joint. close up you can see a nasty line where the light hits the model differently, not to worry later work will disquise it and the build up of colours will still work (says she hopefully - fingers crossed) rmweb511terraforming59 offcuts of copper wire can be used for holding the PIR in place, by the time several layers of fluff are added you will find it hard to locate them, this is the edge of the top layer of PIR, it would be better to trim it and work it into the lower level, but I am tight for space to fit any buildings up here, so instead just add this little shape from an offcut to disguise the square edge rmeb512terraforming60 filling in cracks on grass and rock is easy...not so much on roads.....there was also a distinct pattern line which I filled...hence the weird white marks on top. Regular patterns draw the eye and never look anything but designed, as the ground is intended to be grassed or near the building I don't want this hence the filler, i'll touch up with thinned paint later. The foam was thin at the road that it was proving difficult to fix, I tried glue - won't dry in time, I tried filler - still not the best, I resorted to ripping of a piece of wall paper and tearing it roughly so no straight edges and working into the filler - I'll check it tomorrow, after seeing Westerhamstation's clever Belisha Beacon build I think I could use dress making pins....I'll see tomorrow.... rmweb513terraforming61 I used some foam bushes to start to fill in the wholes, they will be covered by more detailed items as time goes on, there is two colours mixed and ripped so mor different shapes - technically more natural - I dropped the foam in place and using a syringe dribble PVA onto them it works its way down and glues them to the base.Tomorrow when they are dry static grass won't stick to them, so if any excess static grass gets on them ...just hoover it off. Oh the hoover!!! We use one of those small car hoovers, we can reclaim materials more easily this way, and we use a mains lead rather than a battery one as they tend to be stronger. Plus is does not mess up the main house hoover. rmweb514terraforming62 Leave to dry and inspect tomorrow.The ripped up foam has also been used to cover the tunnel facia to the main foam block. I use glue and pins the glue is encased and takes longer to dry than usual sometimes days, original we used track pins...which was expensive, then nails, and as mentioned copper wire offcuts, basically anything that comes to hand..... Edited January 8, 2014 by Jaz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Hi Jaz and Kal, (creap creap,) having mad a complete nut of myself in the Lounge I will now take my time and go back to page 1 and have a proper look ta this thread. Having just had a look at some pics it looks really good, catch up again later. All the best, Andy, alias The Mighty Bodgit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Hi Andy and welcome You may find it a bit bizarre at times, but for us that is normal Edited January 8, 2014 by Kal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaz Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Continuing just a view from the other direction rmweb516terraforming63 Add a couple of trees to get a feel for the perspective rmweb516terraforming64 This 'horizon' goes down here pretty much like a low relief, elsewhere we go up, I try to change the back ground finish too, rmweb517terraforming65 Placing small trees when the scenery goes down at the back helps with the perspective That road is looking dodgy suspect it will need another go tomorrow regardless a quick check of building placement when all dry followed by static grass. The grass will NOT be the last bit once different segments are finished and placed adjacent you need to ensure that they don't look like 2 different segments, so all depending on how good or bad they look they will need to be visually tided together.The edge is always going to be reasonably straight, in order to stop this I will probably populate the edge with small shrubs and trees. you notice I take the colour over the edge, no two pieces are going to sit perfectly so you don't want the base PIR glaring through, taking the colour over the edge will help. Edited January 8, 2014 by Jaz 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Hi Both well I've been back a few pages and I like the tutorial pics, really good, even for an Old Codger like me to understand. :scared: One quick point, and I HAVEN'T READ ALL THROUGH YET, but this is serious, do you have a Fire Extinguisher up there? I had a loft layout and the light above the hatch caught fire, there was only one way out for me, although I do notice you have a nice large window for use in emergencies. :stinker: Bodge Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kal Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Hi Yes, apart from the velux x 5 and the end window, I built some stairs to the loft. We have a wifi smoke alarm with direct connection to the fire brigade, and a selection of extinguishers and a couple of fire blankets It is a good point though, so anyone reading that has a loft layout, bear in mind, what you do if a fire started below you or in the loft. Edited January 8, 2014 by Kal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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