south_tyne Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) The length is roughly 10 times the gauge, so more like 320mm.Thanks John, sounds more like it! A very useful guess-timation Means we're probably looking at around 750mm ish for a cross-over? Edited April 11, 2016 by south_tyne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raymw Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) length of straight track, on point, if image is correct, looks to be about 15inches, or so. Edited April 11, 2016 by raymw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted April 11, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2016 Wouldn't a point length be roughly half the length of two curves placed end to end as in a cross over? or is that the length of a straight anyway? (400mm) Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Gilbert Posted April 11, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 11, 2016 length of straight track, on point, if image is correct, looks to be about 15inches, or so. Straight and point both appear to have 24 sleepers (roughly 24 on the point but it suggests it's same as a straight) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Straight and point both appear to have 24 sleepers (roughly 24 on the point but it suggests it's same as a straight) That would make sense. So it would suggest around 900mm (3' ish) for a cross-over given a little clearance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edcayton Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I hope that isn't a true likeness. It looks bl66dy awful to me. Apart from the odd sleepering I can see no sign of chairs and I suspect it is a hand built prototype to establish the geometry. Ed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rue_d_etropal Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 It would be nice to see a printed template. Product number does not give any clue to whether it is Electrofrog, Insulfrog or new Unifrog. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
south_tyne Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 (edited) It would be nice to see a printed template. Product number does not give any clue to whether it is Electrofrog, Insulfrog or new Unifrog. I'd imagine it is safe to assume the former or the latter. Recent offerings in other gauges have been unifrog but these setrack points have been announced (and presumably on the drawing table) for a number of years so I wouldn't be surprised of they are standard electrofrog. Insulfrog would be a backward step. Edited April 11, 2016 by south_tyne Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John R Smith Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Straight and point both appear to have 24 sleepers (roughly 24 on the point but it suggests it's same as a straight) I would think that if it is supposed to form part of the Setrack system then the straight side of the turnout should be 400mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poggy1165 Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I have to say I am quite looking forward to getting one of these just for the fun of seeing what will pass through it. Potentially I could have a use for it in the loco storage area, and if it fails for that, I might just build myself a little shunting plank as a side show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatloaf Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 Im also waiting for these. Id image it will be the same length as the set track straight, which is 400mm or 15.5" Id imagine the curved part of the point will be the same as the curve thats already out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I think that the set track points as a crossover would result in fairly wide spacing. Someone with the curved tracks could make an S bend out of two pieces and measure the offset. To get an 80mm spacing, I imagine that these points would need to be cut down a little. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossygobbin Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I think that the set track points as a crossover would result in fairly wide spacing. Someone with the curved tracks could make an S bend out of two pieces and measure the offset. To get an 80mm spacing, I imagine that these points would need to be cut down a little. maybe remove the curved bit. looks a bit odd anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mervyn Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Any news on the arrival of these points?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 The thread is nearly 3 years old now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 It's like a race, the Dapol 08, or the Peco points on which to run it! Best Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG John Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 It's like a race, the Dapol 08, or the Peco points on which to run it! Best Simon The tortoise and the ............. tortoise! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 The tortoise and the ............. tortoise! The tortoise arrived long ago. It is just waiting for the point that it's intended to switch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted July 25, 2016 Share Posted July 25, 2016 I still cant understand how it takes 3 years to develop this and get it into production. Locomotives have been and gone in far less time. Its almost like Peco aren't really that bothered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 It makes no sense to me that the O gauge set track has been available for so long, but they've never released the points to match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold PaulRhB Posted July 26, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) Well would you rather Peco announced they'd cancelled it? Peco have the tool shop running at capacity doing HO, 009 and OO new items so they are switching round doing a bit of each as each market moans they are forgotten just as much. Recent releases in the OO catenary and 009 have been announced ages ago too. Isn't it nice a small British firm with plenty of work to keep the staff employed for the next few years Edited July 26, 2016 by PaulRhB 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 (edited) The cynic in me wonders how much the GOG have been telling them not to bother with anything less than six foot radius as it isn't needed. Edited July 26, 2016 by Night Train Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted July 26, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 26, 2016 The G0G trade liaison folks hopefully have more sense, a good many members will buy these points....eventually....if we live to see them.... Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cromptonnut Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 Th cynic in me wonders how much the GOG have been telling them not to bother with anything less than six food radius as it isn't needed. There are probably more active O gauge modellers not in the Guild than there are in it - so hopefully they haven't been listening at all. Just because "they" aren't interested doesn't mean nobody else is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simond Posted July 26, 2016 Share Posted July 26, 2016 I'm sorry to be blunt, but this is an absurd discussion, and a quite ludicrous conspiracy theory. Peco are a commercially aware company, they have been enormously successful over the last half century or more, have purchased other suppliers as the opportunity arose, and seem, by any measure, to know what they are doing, even if some of their products are reasonably criticised by those of us who aspire to a greater level of fidelity than the mass market will profitably support. They are quite capable of working out their own priorities. Companies House publishes their results which are, in my opinion, not at all bad. I'd be very happy to achieve them. I can see no justification whatsoever to assert that the Guild would want, in any way, to discourage a supplier from delivering a product that some of their membership would want to purchase. It's ridiculous to suggest that somebody actually wants to stop such a product being brought to market, and equally daft to think that Peco would listen to & be influenced by such rubbish. As a disclaimer, I am a member of the Guild and an occasional purchaser of Peco products, but have no deeper involvement with either body. Simon 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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