BR(S) Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 20127 + 20114 + Inspection Saloon, Crewe, 1989: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbOISzp3Pl4&list=UUu3zsqv6lefxai1Y3nmLPew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted October 17, 2014 Share Posted October 17, 2014 20127 + 20114 + Inspection Saloon, Crewe, 1989: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbOISzp3Pl4&list=UUu3zsqv6lefxai1Y3nmLPew Crewe's DM45029 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 (edited) I appear to have missed out on the BR Maroon version, this model was on pre-order from TTC Diecast formerly known as the Loughborough Model Centre, it appears that there were quality control issues with this item, I have been told that there are more to be released, can anyone confirm whether Bachmann will release any more of this variant in the near future ??? Edited November 15, 2014 by Black 5 Bear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Not Captain Kernow Posted November 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 15, 2014 Sounds more like someone trying to cover their own backside as to why they could not fulfil the order to me... They are still available from many other retailers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 16, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 16, 2014 i picked up a maroon one from the crewe show today from footplate models, they have one left at the time of writing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 On sale at more than one trade stand at Newcastle show yesterday Mike Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Sorry if this is a stupid question, but did the inspection saloons have a drivers position in them for when they were being propelled? If the driver was just in the loco behind then they must have had a very restricted view of signals and the line ahead. Was radio communication used between an observer in the saloon and the driver in the loco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted December 22, 2014 Share Posted December 22, 2014 Sorry if this is a stupid question, but did the inspection saloons have a drivers position in them for when they were being propelled? If the driver was just in the loco behind then they must have had a very restricted view of signals and the line ahead. Was radio communication used between an observer in the saloon and the driver in the loco The LMS saloons only had a horn and a vacuum brake handle: See penultimate entry here: http://rmweb.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=22517 See second entry here: http://www.ngaugeforum.co.uk/SMFN/index.php?topic=7482.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Bought a BR maroon one today. Very impressed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton961 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Thought another prototype photo would not come ammis, so here is 45025 at Preston around 1968. David 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 (edited) Hang on.... Plain blue, FYE???? WHOA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EDIT: AND a bus on the bridge!! Edited January 3, 2015 by 'CHARD 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveb860 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 EDIT: AND a bus on the bridge!! Oh how terribly cliché Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Oh how terribly cliché On further scrutiny, two buses, I think.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy W Posted January 4, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2015 Sorry if this is a stupid question, but did the inspection saloons have a drivers position in them for when they were being propelled? If the driver was just in the loco behind then they must have had a very restricted view of signals and the line ahead. Was radio communication used between an observer in the saloon and the driver in the loco When propelled, these coaches were used for track (and sometimes signalling) inspections and necessarily these were done at slow speed so that the engineering staff in the saloon could actually look at what they were inspecting. Special signalling arrangements, or an engineering possession, would be in force as the saloon might need to stop in section if something problematic was spotted. When being pulled by the loco to or from the section of line to be inspected, normal speeds were achieved. The saloons were also used as mobile meeting rooms from time to time so finding one, with loco attached, in a siding for a few hours wasn't unknown if a major civil engineering project was being planned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Andy W Posted January 4, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2015 On further scrutiny, two buses, I think.... Yes, Preston Corporation on the station entrance side of the bridge, and Ribble on the other side of the road heading into town. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheatley Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Special signalling arrangements, or an engineering possession, would be in force as the saloon might need to stop in section if something problematic was spotted. Not necessarily. Until 1994 at least for routine inspections they were simply signalled on the block as a Class 9 train (Class 1 if not requiring to stop) and the time they needed to be clear of the section was agreed with the signalman. A lookout might be provided but that was as far as it went. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coachmann Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 There was probably a sensible speed restriction when being propelled along a main line, nevertheless they still travelled at a pretty good clip judging by old cine i have seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted January 4, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 4, 2015 There was probably a sensible speed restriction when being propelled along a main line, nevertheless they still travelled at a pretty good clip judging by old cine i have seen. IIRC the ones with the ride control or B4 bogies were 50mph when propelling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted January 6, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 6, 2015 45025 on Inspection saloon duties. (2).jpgThought another prototype photo would not come ammis, so here is 45025 at Preston around 1968. David Funnily enough I might well be tempted by a plain blue one. Had you thought of sending the photo to Bachmann as evidence to support that livery version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Hi all, I think that the saloon being propelled by 45025 is in fact one of the BR late 1950s build Diag (1/550?) as it appears to have the three identical windows with radius corners as opposed to the LMS Diag D2046 centre droplight square framing and therefore it would not be correct to apply the plain blue livery to a Bachmann model. I have only seen the plain blue livery on the non D2046 versions - as per Paul Bartlett's website. cheers Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ressaldar Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 DM45029 in EWS livery had 30mph as the propelled speed restriction, while 45030 (in it's retro LMS livery) stated 50mph. cheers Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwich station Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Funnily enough I might well be tempted by a plain blue one. Had you thought of sending the photo to Bachmann as evidence to support that livery version? Although I've already bought one in maroon , I could also be tempted by an all blue one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I finished my Inspection Saloon during the week. Cheers Peter. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tractor_37260 Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) Glad these have finally landed, I've just ordered one. I'm sure I've seen photos of the one that was used in passenger trains on the Kyle Line (ADM 45028) with Highland Rail stags on the sides? I can't find one now though! Can anyone confirm this? Cheers, Rick Rick I wonder if this may be the coach you've seen, the early Blue/Grey version of the 101 with White Stags on the front and sides ? It only ran like this during 1987 prior to being re-painted Hebridean Green/Cream. https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/5732873995/in/photolist-9JAtH6-9JAtMn-9JAtCi https://www.flickr.com/photos/blue-diesels/5732874243/in/photolist-9JAtH6-9JAtMn-9JAtCi Superb phots courtsey John Turner (53A Models) HTH Ken Edited January 11, 2015 by tractor_37260 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chameleon Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Anyone know where I can get one of the saloons in br maroon. Everywhere seems to be out of stock. I'd like to get 45020 as it is the one preserved at boness. I'm guessing they won't do any more of that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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