RMweb Gold Revolution Ben Posted February 8, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 8, 2015 Maybe this might be something for pendolino project guys to think about? I'm too small for this thinking I'm afraid. Hello all, Lifted from the "Introducing Revolution Trains" thread: "For avoidance of doubt ... it's a definite "no" to track. There are plenty of products out there in OO and now N (Finetrax, Easi-track) to fill that niche." cheers Ben A. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
avonside1563 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Either of these would be ideal for the Industrial market. Both designs saw wide use around the UK and overseas with plenty of detail differences within the classes to give the people who like to modify r-t-r plenty of scope, and with the wheelbase being the same perhaps there's the possibility of a standard mechanism to save costs? 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiptonian Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 and with the wheelbase being the same perhaps there's the possibility of a standard mechanism to save costs? Good idea. A large number of highly diverse industrial 0-4-0Ts used a 5' 6" wheelbase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Another good thing about industrials, from the model manufacture's point of view, is that most industries had more than one so multiple purchases would be logical. From the modeller's point of view the engines take up little space and don't mind sharp curves. Cheers, David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 The only problem, as the owner of several 0-4-0 tanks in OO, is that on "standard" track (as opposed to finescale) short wheelbase tanks have a habit of turning sideways when reaching a point frog. My bete noir is a Doxford cranetank which even on finescale track needs to be coupled to a very heavy whitemetal plate wagon to keep it on finescale track. In N the problem is even worse. There were quite a few small 0-6-0 tanks which would sell well, however- not just the Hudswell range. Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted February 12, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2015 That's a bit of a downer for 0-4-0's I would love to have a few small tanks. I take my hat of to you for completing the Doxfords tank. Have thrown the towel in on mine. Looking like it could end up on ebay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalKat Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 I don't know if anybody has suggested this ...... but how about a LBSC C2X? http://www.semgonline.com/steam/c2-c2x_01.html It would be a useful loco for small and large layouts, plus I would probably have two Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiptonian Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 The only problem, as the owner of several 0-4-0 tanks in OO, is that on "standard" track (as opposed to finescale) short wheelbase tanks have a habit of turning sideways when reaching a point frog. Surely not insurmountable. There is, after all, a model of an L&Y 0-4-0ST. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davknigh Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 The only problem, as the owner of several 0-4-0 tanks in OO, is that on "standard" track (as opposed to finescale) short wheelbase tanks have a habit of turning sideways when reaching a point frog. Les Pardon me if you've already done this but have you checked the back to back on the wheels? If this is OK you might want to check the flangeway width as too much clearance gives too much wiggle room for short wheelbase locos. HTH David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted February 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) and the Peco stuff seems to be terribly expensive. ALL r-t-r narrow gauge is "expensive" - it goes with the territory. You'll only see OO-comparable prices if the producers can shift OO-comparable quantities. At (roughly) £35 per coach and £15 for a wagon (a bit less if you shop around), the prices aren't much out of line with those of current OO releases anyway. John Edited February 13, 2015 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold tomparryharry Posted February 13, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2015 The only problem, as the owner of several 0-4-0 tanks in OO, is that on "standard" track (as opposed to finescale) short wheelbase tanks have a habit of turning sideways when reaching a point frog. My bete noir is a Doxford cranetank which even on finescale track needs to be coupled to a very heavy whitemetal plate wagon to keep it on finescale track. In N the problem is even worse. There were quite a few small 0-6-0 tanks which would sell well, however- not just the Hudswell range. Les Hi Les, It's not only confined to 00 gauge (fine or otherwise). It happens in the big world too. Try fitting longer check rails onto the frog, and it's off sides. Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 The Doxford has a wheelbase that is shorter than the gauge of the track- interestingly the prototypes also ran whenever possible with plate wagons in front. 0-4-0 tanks very often had over-sized buffers even when never used on sharply-curved track. This is because the short wheelbase and cylinders well outsidfe the track gauge caused a waddling motion when nominally travelling in a straight line. Flangeways on points big enough for the overscale wheels to run through tend to be big enough for a loco that tends to slog to escape through. Long checkrails aren't always possible, though I did have them and will again when I return to OO with the next layout. However a commercial 0-4-0 tank has to be able to run through Hornby and Peco dead-frog coarser-scale pointwork, or it won't sell. All the very best Les Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsp3970 Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 If someone is going to produce 009 scale steam I would love to see some Darjeeling and Himalayan stuff. Visited there thirty years ago and always wanted to model it but there seems to be no r-t-r for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WesternKing Posted March 3, 2015 Share Posted March 3, 2015 I will second the request for a decent Class 40. I think it would be an excellent seller if you could get there before farish! Cheers Guy Farish have just announced the class 40's for upgrade but still no split headcode version! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PreservationModeller Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Packaging with not too-much waste. I rather dislike Hornby and Bachmann's current plastic-city packaging, favouring that used on the Well Tanks for example; protects the model well, but not too wasteful. As for models; a retooled Terrier in OO would be most welcome (if only for the lovely lamp irons!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium James Makin Posted March 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 12, 2015 Packaging with not too-much waste. I rather dislike Hornby and Bachmann's current plastic-city packaging, favouring that used on the Well Tanks for example; protects the model well, but not too wasteful. As for models; a retooled Terrier in OO would be most welcome (if only for the lovely lamp irons!) I think Bachmann's previous-gen packaging was just about perfect, protected the model without taking up too much space, and you could turn the model upside down in the polystyrene to clean the wheels while keeping the body nice, multi-functional! Of course, with the smaller boxes it meant you could also fit more locos in the same storage space! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 Don't know if it's been asked or wished for before, but I'd certainly like to add my request for some ex Rover KSA - A Timber carrying 'Cube' wagons please Dave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythocentric Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 NER locomotives (any) to go with the Q6! Regards Bill 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Here's another thing for you to consider. How about the axle size and final drive gear on the axle are kept constant across your whole range? This would make it easier for those people who wish to use you RTR bits in different combinations for producing different loco's. Unlike Hornby, who seem to alter the technical specs of there loco's between batches (am thinking of things like the 08, with 2 different axleboxes etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamford Posted March 26, 2015 Share Posted March 26, 2015 wcml /northern emu,s please - some types long lived in several liveries , even oddities like bury and hadfield units used body/cab types common to other br units surprised Hornby have not announced an 0-6-0 RR sentinel diesel - be nice in n gauge , useful to 009ers as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Storey Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 Dave - you have some influence over Kernow and they have some credibility as a client with Bachmann. Could you offer to project manage the production of a 2HAP from one coach of the Kernow IPR Thumper and one coach of the Bachmann 2EPB? Just a thought for a project that would require very little capital outlay but seems to be stuck in the middle of their respective rights. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJM Dave Posted March 28, 2015 Author Share Posted March 28, 2015 Hi Mike, It's a good idea, but I'm not sure what the logistics would be, let alone the feasibility of a third party getting between the 2. I can and will made contact and see if it is possible. Cheers Dave 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythocentric Posted March 28, 2015 Share Posted March 28, 2015 NER locomotives (any) to go with the Q6! Regards Bill In addition to the above I would also add a plea for Lancashire & Yorkshire motive power to go with the sole example from Bachmann, i.e. Aspinall 'Radial' 2-4-2. Widespread across Lancashire and Yorkshire with numerous survivors into BR days! Regards Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clearwater Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Hmm - basically stuff that's not common to the red and blue box brigade. For those of us too young to have seen steam outside preserved lines, tie-ins with what we can see would be good or stuff that captures the imagination Suggestions 1) lner quad art set per the north norfolk set 2) lner silver jubilee set. Crying out for it given Hornby 's version is basically dreadful 3) 29xx saint / Atlantic - obv tie in with the didcot project 4) 111 the great bear - iconics/seem to sell well whether recent or long lost( cf P2) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RBAGE Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Quad art. Hmm! Now you're talking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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