porkie Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Good evening, Im struggling to find Information on what coaching stock this loco ran with in intercity swollow livery. And the formations it ran. Cheers Phil Edited January 12, 2014 by porkie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGJ Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Monday to Friday was mk3s and a HST DVT on some Saturdays Raspberry Ripple mk1s on the Themes - Eden railtours I saw it twice on the Pullmans too Sometimes when it ran with mk3s it had a generator coach ( ex mk1 break ) try searching flickr http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=class+89001 Edited January 12, 2014 by SGJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted January 12, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2014 Yes as SGJ says , although I primarily remember it on Raspberry Ripple (Inter city Mk1s) . I think it did commuter services to Peterborough Remember GNER did restore it to service in their blue livery. Presumably for use on MkIV sets? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 (edited) Here she is on the MkI Charter set: http://www.hondawanderer.com/89001_Colton_Junction_1990.htm http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/89001_Eaton_Crossing.jpg ...and something less common: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7167/6784086013_ba8e1796c9.jpg Edited January 12, 2014 by 'CHARD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkins Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 She was also used on Monday to Friday King's Cross - Peterborough evening commuter runs, occasionally the West Highland Green & Cream set was used in winter. As always, search for photographs and you can't go wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGJ Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 http://www.flickr.com/photos/midland-road/9564095185/in/set-72157635179447452 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Found another photo of it at KGX with Mk2Es. Thanks to the contributor: http://www.flickr.com/photos/78608810@N05/11188389336 I never realised that it didn't run with Mk4s during BR days 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted January 12, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 12, 2014 Named Avocet at Sandy, the HQ of the RSPB (an Avocet is the RSPB's logo) by Margaret Thatcher, who promptly left to return to London by car ! Says it all. Sorry back on topic.. saw it at least 3 times a week now b*ggered if I can remember what she was on ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Adam1701D Posted January 13, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 13, 2014 There were a couple of Mk2e sets used for KGX-Peterborough commuter turns (and occasional weeked tuens to Leeds and York) - these were mainly ex FOs refurbished with airline-type seating. 89001 was a regular on these turns along with a handful of ECML-dedicated 90s and the odd 91. Thw West Highland set spent winter at Bounds Green and was part of the Charter fleet which didn't stop it getting used at weekends or in the peaks if neccessary. The early days of electrification on the ECML were fascinating in terms of the variety of stock used and the sheet detirmination of Intercity to run as many electrics as possible. One bank holiday weekend, we even had a brand-new 91 hauling a rake of blue/grey Mk1s to Doncaster and a pair of 321s borrowed from the Great Eastern. Happy days! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Make a change from the 321 & 317, or even 365, that we now have....... Stewart Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
porkie Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) Wow I wasn't expecting mk1 and mk2's. Thanks for all your replies. Would the mk3 formations be hst or loco hauld stock? Cheers Phil Edited January 13, 2014 by porkie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 the photos posted above suggest HST sets as they seem to have a TGS in them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catkins Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 the photos posted above suggest HST sets as they seem to have a TGS in them. Either a spare set with a generator car to provide the correct Electrical Train Supply (ETS), or HST rake with a 'surrogate DVT' to provide the ETS. A surrogate DVT, was a HST power car that had been modified to become a DVT with the engines idling to provide the ETS for the train, however that was found to be problematic for the engines, so the engine control systems were altered to provide ETS and traction power. The result was rather good acceleration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anson50022 Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I have on an old VHS tape recording containing Newsround!, the clip of 89001 being named by Ms Thatcher at Kings Cross, so, unless it repeated this at Sandy I wouldn't know! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve-e Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Think I only saw it a couple of times this one was early 1987 at Crewe http://www.flickr.com/photos/northbriton/10161117453/in/set-72157636335960104 Cheers Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted February 15, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted February 15, 2014 I bagged it for haulage from Wakefield Westgate to Leeds and seem to remember that it was a Mk 4 set but can#t remember what was on the back. i do know that it accelerated uphill out of Wakefield better than anything else. Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGJ Posted February 15, 2014 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I bagged it for haulage from Wakefield Westgate to Leeds and seem to remember that it was a Mk 4 set but can#t remember what was on the back. i do know that it accelerated uphill out of Wakefield better than anything else. Jamie If it was in GNER livery most likely a normal mk4 set would have been used ( normal 82/2 DVT ) SGJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisH-UK Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 There is a Modern Railways Special - East Coast Electrification by Colin Boocock which has a picture of the 89 hauling a Mk4 set on a passenger train in Feb 1990. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
25901 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Try these vid's 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 I remember seeing it at Doncaster on it's way to Leeds, and asked the driver what he thought. He replied that it accelerated better than a 91. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpion Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 notice the short lived white GNER lettering Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PinzaC55 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I used to work the test trains out of Ferme Park with this beast ( I was a Guard ) and the acceleration was scarey. When the driver opened her up you literally got forced back into the seat. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium jamie92208 Posted March 26, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2014 I remember reading about a test run somewhere on either Shap or Beattock where it was coupled up behind a supposedly stalled 12 coach train plus loco while still having its own long test train atatched and apparently it just walked away with both trains up the hill without a trace of a slip. Jamie 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 So why did BR opt for the 91 instead then? Or not have both? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomag Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 So why did BR opt for the 91 instead then? Or not have both? The 89 has a maximum speed of 125mph, the 91s had a design speed of 140mph. Also the 91s were express passenger/parcels only whereas the 89 was much more along the mixed traffic lines of the 87/2 (as designed). The continuous HP of the 91s is about 6100 but only 6300 max whereas the 89 was 5850hp cont and about 7800hp max. Finally the 89 was putting that HP through 6 axles rather than the 4 or the 91. Therefore at lower speeds the 89 should out perform a 91; but then under about 60mph an HST can out acceletete a 91+ Mk4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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