YK 50A Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Am wondering how much better then the Hornby version of the Mk 2Ds they are. Overall they are better than the 2Ds, much finer and crisper moulding. They look perfectly fine when running with Bachmann,s mk2s whereas the 2Ds sit higher than them (both coupling and roof heights). The Airby Mk2Ds look fine with Bachmann Mk1s though. The buffers don't quite match up, but bearing in mind all the other discrepancies, I'll sleep at night! A BG and an RU is what mine will be running with until the Bachmann version comes along. Alun Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted December 8, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 8, 2014 Ah, buses, here we go. Charles Henry Roe's father was head of the North Eastern carriage works at York, and his first job was there, not surprisingly. During his employment there he assisted in the design of a Royal coach, bus bodywork when a number were built for railway use, but more relative to this post, he also invented and patented a carriage roof ventilator. The NER wouldn't pay him for it , so he resigned and moved to Charles Roberts in Wakefield, taking his design with him. I'll look further into the ventilator to see what relationship with the Roe-Vac it has. Watch this space. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Excellent work on the coaches Brian, I am almost tempted to buy a couple. I will have to wait and see what the Inter City livery is like. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley West Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Looking at the InterCity-livered versions on Hatton's site, it looks like that horrible yellowy/orangy pale grey used on the old versions has finally been banished. Can anyone confirm this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merfyn Jones Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Looking at the InterCity-livered versions on Hatton's site, it looks like that horrible yellowy/orangy pale grey used on the old versions has finally been banished. Can anyone confirm this? I got one of these today to see if it is as bad as I have read. The colours look good to me although I think the red stripe is a little narrow. A good match for both my repaints and some Lima Mk3s. However the livery seems to be a hybrid being in 1989 ish. INTERCITY but with the more recent central door locking lights and orange guttering. For me the false solebar is not a problem, maybe the livery makes it less noticeable. The roof vents are a disappointment and the silly gangway paint job is easily put right. In all good value for money at £24.99 including postage. Merf. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Theyre not too bad, but maybe a little over priced for what they are, still good models, which need a little further improvementNL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted December 9, 2014 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted December 9, 2014 Has anyone painted one yellow yet...........? Cheers, Mick (Still using his stash of Airfix/Dapol/Hornby) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C.M Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Has anyone painted one yellow yet...........? Cheers, Mick (Still using his stash of Airfix/Dapol/Hornby) I was thinking you would have started one by now. Cheers Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I can't help thinking that if Hornby's effort had looked like Brian's, I'd have bought at least a rake of them by now. got to say that that is avast improvement all just from thinning out theblue line. now they look more like i remember them...... sure H put out samples painted so why didnt they act on comments about the line? what a silly error. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 (edited) got to say that that is avast improvement all just from thinning out theblue line. now they look more like i remember them...... sure H put out samples painted so why didnt they act on comments about the line? what a silly error. Indeed if you refer back to the photograph on post 18 - Page 1. Perhapes the factory was already churning them out by then? Edited December 11, 2014 by jonathan452 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifitlooksright Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Too much hassle to fix the many problems. I'm selling my 2es Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Can somebody please explain to me how Hornby are able to make beautifully accurate models of 1928 K series Pullman stock but can't make an accurate model of 1972/73 Mk2e British Rail stock? I would hate to think the answer is solely because the higher management at Hornby have more interest in steam era stock than that from the post steam era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Can somebody please explain to me how Hornby are able to make beautifully accurate models of 1928 K series Pullman stock but can't make an accurate model of 1972/73 Mk2e British Rail stock? I would hate to think the answer is solely because the higher management at Hornby have more interest in steam era stock than that from the post steam era. I would have thought the rush to release it before Bachmann released it's Mk2F was enough of an explanation. As an eastern region modeller I'm glad I don't need any Mk2Es. Quite excited about Bachmann's Mk2Fs tho! ER apparently didn't get any Mk2F BSOs tho so a bit of modellers license will need to be used. Edited December 18, 2014 by sub39h 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennyboy Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Can somebody please explain to me how Hornby are able to make beautifully accurate models of 1928 K series Pullman stock but can't make an accurate model of 1972/73 Mk2e British Rail stock? I would hate to think the answer is solely because the higher management at Hornby have more interest in steam era stock than that from the post steam era. And the ironic thing is that it's probably a lot easier to find decent pictures of MK2e compared to a 1930's Pullman coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I would have thought the rush to release it before Bachmann released it's Mk2F was enough of an explanation. As an eastern region modeller I'm glad I don't need any Mk2Es. Quite excited about Bachmann's Mk2Fs tho! ER apparently didn't get any Mk2F BSOs tho so a bit of modellers license will need to be used. Some 2f BSOs were transferred to the ER very early on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flood Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I would have thought the rush to release it before Bachmann released it's Mk2F was enough of an explanation. As an eastern region modeller I'm glad I don't need any Mk2Es. Quite excited about Bachmann's Mk2Fs tho! ER apparently didn't get any Mk2F BSOs tho so a bit of modellers license will need to be used. I believe that you are correct, Hornby tried to keep a major proportion of the market share of BR air-con stock (which they previously held 100% by having the rights to the old Airfix mouldings). In this instance, though, I believe that this strategy will come back to haunt them over the long term. What I will re-iterate is that from what I have heard the Bachmann model is not going to be in the £20 - £30 bracket but will be more. It will be up to the individual whether they believe that the Bachmann product is worth its price when it is released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sub39h Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) I believe that you are correct, Hornby tried to keep a major proportion of the market share of BR air-con stock (which they previously held 100% by having the rights to the old Airfix mouldings). In this instance, though, I believe that this strategy will come back to haunt them over the long term. What I will re-iterate is that from what I have heard the Bachmann model is not going to be in the £20 - £30 bracket but will be more. It will be up to the individual whether they believe that the Bachmann product is worth its price when it is released. If that's the case best get your order in with Hattons. The non DCC ones are still available with the pre order price guarantee at around £25.50. I've had them on pre-order since they were first announced. Edited December 19, 2014 by sub39h Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR(S) Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 If that's the case best get your order in with Hattons. The non DCC ones are still available with the pre order price guarantee at around £25.50. I've had them on pre-order since they were first announced. No note on there either about price being subject to change and customers will be notified if it does, so looks like it's a pre-order price they will honour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Now read the long awaited 'Rail Express' review. Not too surprised to see that it only gave 'two ticks' out of five. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 If that's the case best get your order in with Hattons. The non DCC ones are still available with the pre order price guarantee at around £25.50. I've had them on pre-order since they were first announced. That's a very good call. I've just ordered 8 of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 These coaches have arrived at the right time, have the correct lack of separate fragile fittings, and have lights too. They have found humble employment going round the base of the Christmas tree at home this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) These coaches have arrived at the right time, have the correct lack of separate fragile fittings, and have lights too. They have found humble employment going round the base of the Christmas tree at home this year. I bought the other half one of these- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bachmann-HO-Scale-Train-Set-Analog-Thomas-Christmas-Express-00721-/360816055116?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item540250134c And they say the age of romance is dead! Oh she asked for the train, it wasnt my idea! Edited December 19, 2014 by royaloak 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johny retro Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 (edited) must be from that one story where thomas had to have a cowcatcher fitted and he didn't like it! lol. Edited December 20, 2014 by johny retro Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickL2008 Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Just started work on mine, glazing seems to come out pretty easily, those door windows have been corrected as the "roundness" of the edges hasn't been captured well at all.. next up those Roe-vac vents, I assume that the positioning and type etc stayed the same when they were repainted into intercity, thinking of the vents, do Southern Pride Models not do them?NL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAndy Posted December 20, 2014 Share Posted December 20, 2014 Re the Roe-vac vents, yes Southern Pride do them, code P128 on this list: http://www.southernpridemodels.co.uk/ cheers Andy 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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