BigAndy Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Hello all, Attached are a couple of photos of the Hornby MK2 E FO that I'm uising in one of my Queen St - Aberdeen shove rakes. It's still a work in progress but is about 90% finished now. It has had Shapeways Roevac roof vents fitted, Extreme Etchings window frames and Laserglaze, wire handrails, MJT door and grab handles, Bachmann B4 bogies ( just so it matches the rest of the rake which are Airfix 2D's with Bachmann B4's under them ) and MJT retracted white metal buffers. I have dropped the body by about 1mm onto the chassis, by cutting it and then refixing said chassis back together - this then gets rid of the much criticised 'solebar'. It's a full repaint, arbrushed on using Precision Paints then lined with Fox Transfers ScotRail striping. All other decal work is from the brilliant RailTec range of transfers. It just needs the droplights glazing and then weathering to complete. cheers Andy 17 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Looks superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kintbury jon Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 A quick conversion of one of my FO's. Have modified a Lima Mark 2 FK interior so that it fits. This will be renumbered 13563, one of the 2 Mk 2d's to find it self on the West of England route. This one remained in Blue/Grey whilst the other (13575) found its way into NSE. Yes, it's a 2d and not a 2e but it's fine for me. I have removed the running numbers - this was not easy compared to a Bachmann coach. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomstaf Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 It's looking good Andy. Great to see you making full use of the after market goodies. I'm looking forward to seeing the weathering Cheers Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAndy Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Without wishing to hijack the thread, here's a shot of the DBSO that the 2E is next in the raft to. It started life as an Airfix 2d and has had a plethora of work done to it - the main conversion is the PH designs DBSO kit, which needs some minor alterations to get into a 1980's version. It also has working directional lights, which took some time to get right as each LED is fitted separately. It still needs a lot of tidying up and weathering of course, but I shall weather it at the same time as the other vehicles in order to achieve some uniformaty. It'll be a 6 coach Aberdeen - Glasgow Queen St set when finished, I've done 4 of the vehicles, just finishing the last two as I speak..... The consist is DBSO, Mk2E, Mk2D TSOT ( in blue/grey ), Mk2d TSO, MK2D TSO and MK2Z TSO, all the rest of the vehicles are in ScotRail blue stripe flavour. cheers Andy 14 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley47708 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Now to dispose of my Lima 2f's... Would not rush to dispose of your Lima 2's, with a bit of work they can be improved, I am still waiting to see the Bachmann air cons before deciding which ones to buy, either way I plan on keeping my Lima coaches. A link to some before and after views on my layout thread. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/96961-waverley-85-86/page-2&do=findComment&comment=1864035 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 27, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 27, 2015 Would not rush to dispose of your Lima 2's, with a bit of work they can be improved, I am still waiting to see the Bachmann air cons before deciding which ones to buy, either way I plan on keeping my Lima coaches. A link to some before and after views on my layout thread. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/96961-waverley-85-86/page-2&do=findComment&comment=1864035 I know I may be considered to be slightly biased, but with my modellers hat on, IMHO the Lima 2f's scrub up pretty well with just the addition of Laserglaze. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted April 27, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2015 Attached are a couple of photos of the Hornby MK2 E FO that I'm uising in one of my Queen St - Aberdeen shove rakes. Superb, and show that the coaches can look good if only Hornby would get the livery application right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium MJI Posted April 27, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 27, 2015 I know I may be considered to be slightly biased, but with my modellers hat on, IMHO the Lima 2f's scrub up pretty well with just the addition of Laserglaze. Mike. The poor original glazing is what put me off originally along with buying more 2Bs, but I now have a queue of nearly 30 coaches to be detailed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Why dispose of them? They are a different type of coach They are noticeably under scale in length as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Even though the Lima 2Fs were produced over twenty years ago, and to a far more primitive standard, i'm still quite fond of my little fleet. I'm not sure about the length issue, they are the same length as the new Hornby 2Es, but all the Limas suffer from the over deep belly (remove 1mm.), which makes them look slightly stubby. I used to stretch the 2B/2C bodies, which is hard work for an extra 8 inches, but find trimming the belly is more effective, at least to the naked eye. After you've turned the old bogie moulding around and mounted new couplings on the other end, the next worse thing are the deep windows, which can be cured as above, or use the cheaper Flushglaze option. Let's not forget that issues like size and shape of windows, can only be verified by reference to photos or drawings, so for me if it looks about right, that will do. On some i've cut out the floor, and stuck the floor to the chassis, so i can glue the roof to the body, which is a much better arrangement than clip-fits, though i doubt i'll ever get around to converting all of them. Oh and those gangways, with the fictitious Italian Railways stick-up floor plate and the sticky-out rivets on the faceplate, well they all get filed off (they should have been recessed). The paintwork's not bad, but (after renumbering) benefits from a spray of satin or gloss varnish to bring up the colour, obviously before you tackle the windows. These are never gonna be top-notch showcase models (without a total, time-consuming and costly rebuild), but can be tweaked into fairly decent "layout coaches", viewed from more than a couple of feet away. Old Limas are cheap to buy, so can be used as a low cost conversion project, which can be quite satisfying. If the Bachmann 2Fs are totally brilliant, i'll buy them, but i'll still keep by Lima 2Fs as back-up (for football specials, etc. :-) ) BK 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Getting back to the Hornby 2Es/kinda 2Fs, which i also love and adore, i wish Hornby would sell their 2E or general purpose LED lighting units separately in the R-number shop range. Having worked out that the cure for dim end lighting, was to shove two lighting units into one bodyshell, i've ended up rather short of said items. Perhaps i can buy a few from their spares department (?), but i'm sure available quantities would be restricted, but would save all the trouble of rigging up individual LEDs? If memory serves, they used to offer a lighting unit in the R-range years ago, was it R449 (?), albeit a totally different low-tech bulb set animal and not appropriate for the 2E job. Come on Hornby, offer us the LED lighting bars separately, so we can buy them in the shops. Should sell a bomb, handy for other coaches and kits too. BK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted April 29, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 29, 2015 Getting back to the Hornby 2Es/kinda 2Fs, which i also love and adore, i wish Hornby would sell their 2E or general purpose LED lighting units separately in the R-number shop range. Having worked out that the cure for dim end lighting, was to shove two lighting units into one bodyshell, i've ended up rather short of said items. Perhaps i can buy a few from their spares department (?), but i'm sure available quantities would be restricted, but would save all the trouble of rigging up individual LEDs? If memory serves, they used to offer a lighting unit in the R-range years ago, was it R449 (?), albeit a totally different low-tech bulb set animal and not appropriate for the 2E job. Come on Hornby, offer us the LED lighting bars separately, so we can buy them in the shops. Should sell a bomb, handy for other coaches and kits too. BK For a man of your calibre Brian, a cheaper and easier way is to buy veroboard, sm led's and a capacitor and make your own? Guaranteed to get them all in the right place then. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Kirby Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Bit of a boring job though Mike, and the Hornby does have those nice flush-mounted LEDs and flat capacitors. I've mucked about with LEDs in the past, but anything for an easier life/ life's too short, etc. :-) BK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneofFife Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 yeah if you have lighting then you may as well go the whole hog and illuminate the vestibules toilets and other areas such as any corridors or guards compartments etc. might be beter off buying the non-lit Hornby items but then again do the non lit non railroad (middle of the road) versions come with metal wheels and pick up wires as standard???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAndy Posted May 2, 2015 Share Posted May 2, 2015 yeah if you have lighting then you may as well go the whole hog and illuminate the vestibules toilets and other areas such as any corridors or guards compartments etc. might be beter off buying the non-lit Hornby items but then again do the non lit non railroad (middle of the road) versions come with metal wheels and pick up wires as standard???? The non lit, non railroad two that I bought had metal wheels but no pick ups or wires. cheers Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifitlooksright Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Is the raspberry ripple livery correctly applied? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waverley47708 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I think that livery is correct, the red stripe in particular is in my opinion more accurate than the version on the Airfix / Dapol / GMR versions. I also prefer the shade of dark grey. Overall I think the Lima version matches Bachmann’s rendering of the livery better and therefore a Bachmann loco with Bachmann and Lima Coaches in a rake of Intercity matches better than a Bachmann / Airfix rake in that livery. The link in my post above is to a photo of a Bachmann 47 and Lima Mk2s. I tend to use my Intercity liveried Airfix versions with a non Intercity liveried loco, so with a Large Logo or Blue 47 for example. The Lima version other than the red stripe not extending round the edge is neatly applied. This can be sorted easily. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAndy Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Is the raspberry ripple livery correctly applied? Depends on what you consider to be correctly applied. As Waverley47708 has stated, the shading and colours of the paint seem to be Ok, it's just the position on the bodysides which is questionable. Have a look at post #344 onwards. cheers Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob D2 Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Oh dear, So this coach is a bit pants. The Hornby HST mk3 is a bit pants too. Lucky I've got some 47/0s to haul some Bachmann mk1s... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) FYI for you bargain hunters. http://www.Hornby.com/uk-en/Hornby-br-mk2e-bundle.html At least you get one TSO in-to the bargain. Edited September 9, 2015 by jonathan452 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyneux Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 It's a broken link Jonathan! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted September 9, 2015 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) It's a broken link Jonathan! Try this Although what is a First composite open? Cheers, Mick Edited September 9, 2015 by newbryford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 It's a broken link Jonathan! Link now fixed. The previous broken link had come from Hornby's Facebook page. Also unfortunately I can't copy and paste to this forum on my 'daytime' computer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonathan452 Posted September 9, 2015 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) PS The September 2015 'Rail Express' Modeller contains an upgrading project. I believe this is further to the ones in this thread, Edited September 9, 2015 by jonathan452 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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