RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2014 Oh well done sir(s).......... I have not mastered getting back in time more than a few minutes on the cam thingy. Wonder what that was doing apart from the pilot having a laugh? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Oh well done sir(s).......... I have not mastered getting back in time more than a few minutes on the cam thingy. Wonder what that was doing apart from the pilot having a laugh? P The coptors often coast hop up to Red rock, turn left up the Exe to the base at Lympstone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfsup Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Very unlikely I'd have thought to be an Apache (we have those flying over us nearly every day working between Middle Wallap (Army Air Corps) and Odiham (RAF) and over the Bramley training facility) as the Army Air Corps are the primary user of the fleet. So I would say it's either likely to be a Sea King Mk4 from the Commando Helicopter Force or a Royal Navy Lynx, possibly heading up to the CTC (Commando Training Centre) Lympstone from either one of the Royal Naval Bases in Plymouth or Bickleigh Barracks (RM). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightengine Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 The orange army were busy netting/meshing the enforced landslip cliff just past Sprey Point today. I cant help feel that the geology might ooze its way through the mesh! Its like pubs serving soup in a basket! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium TheQ Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2014 Having been woken By Sea Kings many times at several Stations (RAF not railway) that doesn't look like one, it looks most like a EH101/Merlin, which is quite a large aircraft so it's somewhat more than 30ft up more like 100/150ft. The Q Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff mcghie Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Thanks guys. I'm used to seeing signals with just a straightforward identification e.g SY205 = Saltley 205, no up, down or anything else. Keith EDIT What are 203A and 203B? As others have said it was the western system plus and minus like everything else but the LM system won out eventually. 203A & B are probably the one track circuit (and hence signal) that has been split either due to length or possibly for clearing a crossing. Is there still a barrow type crossing at Starcross? Its been a long time since I was last down that way, class 50's were still in charge back then! Jeff. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff mcghie Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Duplicate signal IDs aren't a problem as long as they aren't controlled by the same signalling centre. Yes and no in my opinion. Back then when SPT or plug in was the only means of communication then it wasn't an issue. Nowadays with mobile and similar in cab then having the controlling box clearly identified is preferable, particularly with the largely contract trackside workforce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) 19.33.35 30 April Apache? DBL 30-Aprl 19.33.35.jpg One of these? Two of these buzzed us yesterday for about 5 minutes having come from Birmingham direction and then carried on southwards. Keith Edited May 1, 2014 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PhilJ W Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2014 Could it be a Puma? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2014 203A & B are probably the one track circuit (and hence signal) that has been split either due to length or possibly for clearing a crossing. Is there still a barrow type crossing at Starcross? Its been a long time since I was last down that way, class 50's were still in charge back then! I'd have to check, Jeff (on leave this week), but I think there are two separate signals (DM203A and DM203B). There is no barrow crossing at Starcross station, but there are a small number of pedestrian foot crossings in the area, which give rise to the requisite Whistle boards. None of these crossings are in any way linked to the signalling (and so don't have white lights or the like, either). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) 19.33.35 30 April Apache? DBL 30-Aprl 19.33.35.jpg I'd say it's a Merlin EH101 - wider than an Apache, rear ramp and wheel housings to the sides. Had a Chinook blatter overhead westwards as my bus approached Kenton on Tuesday! Edited May 1, 2014 by Ramblin Rich Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Kris Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2014 Certainly a Merlin (EH101). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 ........ Is there still a barrow type crossing at Starcross? ........... Jeff. Long since gone Jeff since two elderly deaf persons walked accross without looking & just missed being killed only cross platform access is by the foot bridge, no access at all for wheelchair users Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ramblin Rich Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 1, 2014 It must be difficult to even get to the down side platform for you Don, there's several steps up from the road. No chance of getting to the Exmouth ferry either. It seems strange that the platform end pedestrian crossing closed, but the one across to the small jetty is still open only a few hundred metres away...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emte Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 (edited) Hi All Re. the helicopter its an apache attack helicopter .The thingy above the rota is radar which is part of the up grade which gave it the name Long bow Apache it is the only misssile armed helo.the British Army has I think that the linx ,which originaly carried missiles now is only used as a transport since aquiring the apache the new linx wildcat is for the Navy. emte Edited May 1, 2014 by emte Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 1, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 1, 2014 Hi All Re. the helicopter its an apache attack helicopter .The thingy above the rota is radar which is part of the up grade which gave it the name Long bow Apache it is the only misssile armed helo.the British Army has I think that the linx ,which originaly carried missiles now is only used as a transport since aquiring the apache the new linx wildcat is for the Navy. emte Which one? The one I posted was over Worcestershire and looks like an Apache to me. The one on the Dawlish Beachcam doesn't ! Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted May 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2014 Sorry to have dragged you all off topic but I really enjoy people's knowledge of 'incidental stuff'. I like the Merlin solution; thanks chaps/chapesses I do hope this thread can continue as a friendly discussion group despite the 'washout' having been dealt with ages ago. Where is you nearest accessible station then 'chops'? Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Captain Kernow Posted May 2, 2014 RMweb Gold Share Posted May 2, 2014 It seems strange that the platform end pedestrian crossing closed, but the one across to the small jetty is still open only a few hundred metres away...? Part of this will be to do with sighting of the crossings from approaching trains, Rich. There would have been very little warning in terms of sighting alone, for a barrow crossing at Starcross station. Those to the jetties are just a little way on towards Exeter, so sighting is a bit better, but even these need 'supporting' by Whistle boards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lightengine Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 If CK's orange army had worked as slow as the G I SYKES painters work at Teignmouth painting the station we would be waiting until next April for the line to re open. I am not saying they are slow and have long breaks and long periods of inactivity. BUT they aint fast and they dont have short breaks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
royaloak Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I'd have to check, Jeff (on leave this week), but I think there are two separate signals (DM203A and DM203B). There is no barrow crossing at Starcross station, but there are a small number of pedestrian foot crossings in the area, which give rise to the requisite Whistle boards. None of these crossings are in any way linked to the signalling (and so don't have white lights or the like, either). They are seperate signals and are both autos. DM203A is at 203 miles at Cockwood Harbour, DM203B us at 203 3/4 miles. The next signal is E68 just before 204 1/4 and controls access into Dawlish Warren loop. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 One of these? Two of these buzzed us yesterday for about 5 minutes having come from Birmingham direction and then carried on southwards. Keith Dont see any pic in your post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Dont see any pic in your post Should do, it's definitely there! I'm viewing this on a different computer to the one I originally posted it on and there is definitely a picture of a chopper. Keith Edit: Anybody else not seeing it? Edited May 2, 2014 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted May 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Summat up with the webcam? No it's the train tracker gone wonky. P Edited May 2, 2014 by Mallard60022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted May 2, 2014 RMweb Premium Share Posted May 2, 2014 Summat up with the webcam? No it's the train tracker gone wonky. P Yes. it stopped working just as 1C88 entered the block from E070. I was watching at the time. Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granitechops Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 How often does this happen?? timing by livewebcam clock 17.58.57 a 143? going south on down track I was in Dawlish at the tunnel, saw it stop in the station & then pull out again 500 yds 30 sec? behind this one at 18.02.45 on webcam comes DOWN the UP LINE I was so surprised & could not get my camera out in time to photo it Followed about 3 mins later on down line by another local stopper 8-9 mins later a HST roared by on the UP line (going UP) So does one assume that this was creative use of track utilisation to allow the non stop cross country to leapfrog the 143 & regain the right road at Teignmouth while the 143 stops in Teigmouth Station If I remember the crossover there is on the Newton side of the platforms BUT how often does this occur?? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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