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Don - I'm certain that you're correct. No one has mentioned permanent lighting to me. You'd have to install it the whole length of the wall as well, and there's no evidence of that elsewhere, I think (ie. on the sections already reopened to the public)?

I hope they are temporary - they're only mounted on cheap plywood

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The big red spidery thing is back!!!

Well not exactly at Dawlish.

Saw it yesterday a few miles inland

on the A38 just west of Buckfastleigh

where the road over bridge is being rebuilt.

Where will it turn up next???

Yes, this is quite close to me.

 

Just for you lot, I took a couple of snaps of it the other day - the County Council are rebuilding a minor road overbridge, the earlier version had developed structural defects. The new span will not require an intermediate support, and the works are due for completion by the end of March.

 

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Just in case anyone wanted to ask, no, I wasn't driving!

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I must apologize for my over zealous remarks on the lights. It looked a good idea at the time and I have to admit I didn't know of any plans. It was like an idea being expressed as to how things stand at the moment. You lot, as you have inner depth of what is going on, put me in my place.

 

If they are going to be temporary and just for the workmen's benefit, then it will be a welcome replacement for the floodlights that block most of the night vision on DB cam.

 

Sorry again,

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I must apologize for my over zealous remarks on the lights. It looked a good idea at the time and I have to admit I didn't know of any plans. It was like an idea being expressed as to how things stand at the moment. You lot, as you have inner depth of what is going on, put me in my place.

 

If they are going to be temporary and just for the workmen's benefit, then it will be a welcome replacement for the floodlights that block most of the night vision on DB cam.

 

Sorry again,

Roger ,

No,  I am sorry

 

rereading my post, I realise it could be taken differently to what I intended 

 

When I headed it "CONJECTURE" I meant My conjecture, not yours, I have edited it accordingly

 

Sorry again, no intention of ever putting anyone in their place

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Don - I'm certain that you're correct. No one has mentioned permanent lighting to me. You'd have to install it the whole length of the wall as well, and there's no evidence of that elsewhere, I think (ie. on the sections already reopened to the public)?

Not seen any lights on any of the reopened sections of walkway

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Observation

 

21st Jan 2015

 

The small stone breakwater by Coastguard footbridge/Old Lifeboat House, continues to deteriorate

 

has had repairs to the outer end sometime previously, reinforced with old rail

 

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but bits continue to go missing

 

working shorewards

 

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Looks like Seajack 3   ( JUB 2 )

 

has been moved further north towards Dawlish Warren direction

 

 

 

view from NWR Cam

 

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disappeared out of view completely

 

 

EDIT & from Dawlish Beach Cam

 

looks like its gone a fair way, 80- 100 yds/mtrs

 

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Looks like Seajack 3   ( JUB 2 )

 

has been moved further north towards Dawlish Warren direction

 

Ah, this is what I was told was going to happen last week, probably delayed but now has taken place. It is going to be used on the works at the London-end of the lower walkway.

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Ah, this is what I was told was going to happen last week, probably delayed but now has taken place. It is going to be used on the works at the London-end of the lower walkway.

I think it must have moved late yesterday

 

someone on Dawlish Beach Cam said they heard a noise like whales in pain!!

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Got a 7 day free trial on Dawlish Beach cam

 

Saw much activity  9.45 - 10.20 pm going on

 

lines not under possession as yet,  as train passes

 

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barges & Tugs moving from mooring to JUBs

 

But did not see the crane on JUB 1 moving

 

so must have been loading gear onto JUB 2

 

cant see anything clearly just a load of lights, stationary, & moving

 

two separate lights at sea

 

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one moves inshore

 

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followed by the other

 

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then both disappear in the direction of Teignmouth

 

I guess that while the tide is right ( high tide is 22.21)

 

and the weather favorable,  they have to crack on

 

 

Dont blame some of the people living along there for  being irritable,

 

with noise & light disturbing their sleep

 

I once lived 100 yards from a plant hire maintenance depot

 

right out in the country, lorries & plant would arrive off day jobs late evening

 

& generators & welders etc would be working till the early morning

 

in summer you could not open the windows!!

 

 

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Got a 7 day free trial on Dawlish Beach cam

 

Saw much activity  9.45 - 10.20 pm going on

 

lines not under possession as yet,  as train passes

 

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barges & Tugs moving from mooring to JUBs

 

But did not see the crane on JUB 1 moving

 

so must have been loading gear onto JUB 2

 

cant see anything clearly just a load of lights, stationary, & moving

 

two separate lights at sea

 

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one moves inshore

 

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followed by the other

 

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then both disappear in the direction of Teignmouth

 

I guess that while the tide is right ( high tide is 22.21)

 

and the weather favorable,  they have to crack on

 

 

Dont blame some of the people living along there for  being irritable,

 

with noise & light disturbing their sleep

 

I once lived 100 yards from a plant hire maintenance depot

 

right out in the country, lorries & plant would arrive off day jobs late evening

 

& generators & welders etc would be working till the early morning

 

in summer you could not open the windows!!

Some time before that the tugs brought a barge each to JUB1 the big crane unloaded them and the tugs went to the mooring point by the bouys wondered why they did not leave now I know thanks
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MY CONJECTURE

 

Judging by past experience, just temporary for the workmens benefit & the residents

 

( less floodlights pouring into bedrooms for week/months on end)

 

when the Dawlish Station footbridge roof was damaged early summer,

 

the contractor installed custom bent stainless steel handrail around the curve of the walkway where they were working

 

BUT  when they finished they removed it

 

While it would have been a good safety feature on that corner permanently, 

 

it has been heard, everything other than approved major works have to returned to "as it was" 

 

Also the mounting boards would not  comply with regs

 

and safety rails would have to be put in front to avoid pushchairs, wheel chairs,  etc., causing damage to them,

 

or ripping them off the wall leaving bare wire exposed 

 

 

 

EDIT;- 

 

photo of short lived railings from May 2014

 

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viewers of Dawlish Beach Cam will note that a temporary wire fence is in place now on the walkaway up to where it starts to slope down.

 

If you walk the seawall after the Red Rock Cafe and look carefully at the path it is clear there used to be some sort of fence at that end years ago because you can see where the posts were.  Anybody remember it?

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viewers of Dawlish Beach Cam will note that a temporary wire fence is in place now on the walkaway up to where it starts to slope down.

 

If you walk the seawall after the Red Rock Cafe and look carefully at the path it is clear there used to be some sort of fence at that end years ago because you can see where the posts were.  Anybody remember it?

The question is,  was it post holes or where the coping/edging slabs had  been pinned down between the joints.

 

I noticed a similar thing in the summer when going along the walkway from the viaduct to the tunnels

 

At first I thought Railings?,  then I  noticed the 'filled in holes' were not at uniform distances apart

 

as regular fencing requires, but ONLY at the joints between  each coping, which are of varying lengths

 

by putting a pin down a hole it interlocks them, giving greater strength 

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Mon 26th JAN. 2015  3.28pm

 

Southbound 125

 

photos taken from Rockstone foot bridge

 

( wheelchair parked at top of steps!! ) 

 

EDIT;-

 

if you look under the crane hook, down on the slope you can see the concrete pumping pipe 

 

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6 'L units' visible on deck probably up to 9 at least with those out of sight

 

with the marvels of zoom, that is the Dawlish Station in the background

 

with the green TRAFFIC light on the crossing by the Viaduct in Dawlish town centre!!

 

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Shuttering visible on this end of infilled 'L units'

 

Very difficult to judge with the zoom, but probably 20- 30 units in place???

 

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in this shot at least one section of 5 has been filled to the top, possibly 2 sections

 

and a scaffolding person bridge has been formed, sitting on top of the new surface

 

the top of the 'L' units is that brown, almost furry looking "snake" to the left of the pic

 

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:offtopic:

 

and completely off topic

 

from the palette of the Great Artist

 

 

took this at 5.03 in Exeter this pm

 

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At 14.42 today, right light conditions, on a big screen, you can just make out that

 

there are now 37 "L" units in place on the wall

 

EDIT;-

 

thats 18 in 6 days

 

if they are about 6ft span thats 222 feet or roughly 70 yds placed. Impressive! 

 

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Crane lifting some gear, possibly the drilling rig.

 

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and from the Old lifeboat House

 

The adapted container used to house/locate the drilling gear??

 

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men at work 

 

in the first pic you can see a pile of spare concrete pumping pipes 

 

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So checking with Dawlish Beach Facebook page

 

it looks like the first "L" unit was placed on the 16th Jan 2015

 

So thats 37 in 11 days

 

well done boys

 

but it looks like some nasty weather coming in to slow it up a bit

 

cold, snowy & windy

That's right re the 16th Don, and I believe I reported this on here at the time!  ;)

 

Progress has indeed been good, let's hope the weather doesn't cause too many further delays, although the sea conditions will dictate whether the tugs can bring more 'L' sections to the Wall from Teignmouth or not...

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Only managed a couple of shots today

 

as I was just passing through

 

small barge this side larger one behind

 

small barge with Hydraulic crane on deck + 3 portaloos

 

with previously mentioned blue box/tank along side

 

 

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the larger barge behind has several "L" units on deck & you can see the gangway joining the two decks

 

& it looks like part of the drilling gear on deck aswell

 

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View today from CoastGuard bridge

 

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Like ants on an anthill

 

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Soil pipe awaiting transport down to site

 

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And larger storm water?  pipe

 

Several drain pipes exit into the sea along this stretch of wall

 

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it was quite calm when I took these pics mid morning

 

but now its gusty winds & sleet & hailstones

 

BUT the sea via Dawlish Beach webcam

 

appears to be reasonably calm

 

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Did see earlier, on Dawlish Beach webcam, at least 10 spare concrete pumping pipes

 

being moved from by the blue Genny, along the wall & down the slope.

 

Now, obviously as they started pumping concrete to the far end first, as they were the first placed,

 

as they laid more, the pipe line had to be shortened,

 

So I would venture to think that by adding pipes back on,

 

they are going to

 

1  start placing "L" units at the other end

 

or

 

2  put another layer of concrete over that, as that only appears to have been laid upto the top of the internal webs 

 

  which are 15-18??  inches lower than the front face

 

time will tell

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Fri 30th Jan 2015

 

 no "L" units visible on either JUBs

 

but then high tide is 2.56 pm, & its only 2.9 mtrs

 

so probably not a lot of room for the pontoons & tugs to operate 

 

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Concrete being pumped this morning

 

and they have placed short pieces of 6" soil pipe vertically on top of the already placed concrete

 

Top right

 

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Checking out the anchors for next lot of "L" units when they arrive?

 

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that bit of black sticking out of the "L" units appears to be a 19 mm plastic foam sheet to form a break

 

every 30  mtrs, in the concrete,  I think the guy said

 

but that seems a long space to me somehow

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I understand that these concrete L sections are going to be faced with stone. How is that going to be done, as the L sections are sat almost on the edge of the original wall? Is there going to be a new section up the entire face of the wall?

 

Confused of Norfolk

 

Andy G

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