Hroth Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 (edited) Yes and I saw them all.....apart from that peddled presently by Hornby. Memory still functioning. Dunno - provided it isn't the soapy green Hornby used to do in the late 70s/80s! Edited December 21, 2015 by Hroth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Rob: Oops! Wasn't trying to teach you to suck eggs, more just explaining where I was coming from. My first camera was a Box-Tengor from a jumble sale, and I learned black and white d&p by trial and error too, before working my way through the film formats to a 5x4 view camera. Knowing how demanding that is for landscape work, I take my hat off to the 30s photographers who used similar equipment to take pictures of moving trains! Oh go on - do at least one "box camera" snap! Oh I'm sure something will eventuate which pays homage to the days of not-so-brilliant cameras! I do like to create a pleasant effect which certainly does not always need to sharp. edit; Actually there are photo effect programs in Paint Shop Pro which re-create the faded prints of the 50s, also blurred edges, the whole gamut of error and/or cheap cameras, but to make things sharp with my original view of the model and then to purposely blur it, to a degree, hmmmm, maybe. If it looks right. Edited December 22, 2015 by robmcg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 22, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) Bulleid Wars: Toboldlygo Awakens..... Yep for the first time in nearly 20 months a West Country is on the rails.. The King of Best Ever is Back... Edited December 22, 2015 by toboldlygo 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Brasher Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Was 34005 Barnstaple identical to Bude? If so I could renumber and rename Bude as a companion for my Hornby Dublo rebuilt Barnstaple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hadyn Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I'd worry if any of them are painted brunswick green, that's not what locos were painted in... (runs for cover) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiggoforgold Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I've been following this thread since it started, and thought I should add a comment. Rob asked what we thought was Hornby's best ever model, and many of their post 2001 offerings have been praised, either for their fidelity to prototype or their running quality. Over this period I have liked the Rebuilt MN (not the best by present standards, but the one that really set the ball rolling); the Gresley pacifics and the 08. However, I suggest that we should go back much further to find Hornby's best ever model. It was nowhere near present standards of accuracy or running quality, but it showed what might be possible in an era of steamroller wheels and X04 motors. when Hornby Dublo was held up as the running standard to aspire to. I'm thinking of the original "Evening Star" model, with its pancake tender drive motor, built to show that the haulage and running qualities of the Fleishmann BR52 were possible in a British outline model. It showed the then Triang-Hornby what might be possible, and, although there were retrograde steps and times when they rested on their laurels, the breed started to improve over the years. The standards of today seemed unobtainable back then. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2015 Bulleid Wars: Toboldlygo Awakens..... Yep for the first time in nearly 20 months a West Country is on the rails.. 34006.jpg The King of Best Ever is Back... And Little Red Riding Hood said....."My,Grandma,what big ears you've got !" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Was 34005 Barnstaple identical to Bude? If so I could renumber and rename Bude as a companion for my Hornby Dublo rebuilt Barnstaple. Not as it stands; neither Barnstaple or Yeovil ran with cut-down tenders until they were rebuilt. Unfortunately, It's not just a matter of getting hold of a high-sided tender body as the loco lining also changed when the tenders were altered. Mind you, the tender with the HD Barnstaple is of a type that 34005 never ran with so what the heck! However, having gone to the trouble and expense of producing the tooling for this variant of the light pacific, Hornby will want to get more out of it and I think we're likely to see one or the other produced in the fullness of time. John EDIT: If you don't mind the 1948 Interchange Trials version of Bude, with its mismatched LMS tender, 34005 also ran like that at the time so the older model would be OK to use. Edited December 23, 2015 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2015 And Little Red Riding Hood said....."My,Grandma,what big ears you've got !" Occasionally referred to as 'Dumbo' by some of my spotting mates........... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2015 Not as it stands; neither Barnstaple or Yeovil ran with cut-down tenders until they were rebuilt. Unfortunately, It's not just a matter of getting hold of a high-sided tender body as the loco lining also changed when the tenders were altered. Mind you, the tender with the HD Barnstaple is of a type that 34005 never ran with so what the heck! However, having gone to the trouble and expense of producing the tooling for this variant of the light pacific, Hornby will want to get more out of it and I think we're likely to see one or the other produced in the fullness of time. John EDIT: If you don't mind the 1948 Interchange Trials version of Bude, with its mismatched LMS tender, 34005 also ran like that at the time so the older model would be OK to use. If it's a case of wanting to rename two air-smoothed West Countries and you don't want change lining there is another way... For Example. Bude - remove deflectors and identity Exeter - remove deflectors (errant AWS Battery Box) & identity Fit extra long deflectors to Exeter donor and rename as either Barnstaple or Yeovil or Bude. Fit standard deflectors to Bude donor and rename to suit (has to be one with a crest) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2015 No words are needed, except 'Welcome Back' 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2015 Manston is a bit different from the grimy heap spotted from the window of a passing SR. electric,safety valve blowing vertically skyward between Clapham Junction and Victoria sometime in the early 50's .Green .....where was that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 34006_rhfan.jpg 34070_lhfan.jpg bude&manston02.jpg No words are needed, except 'Welcome Back' Lovely models toboldlygo. So good to see proper engines back at last! No running plate issues here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2015 Lovely models toboldlygo. So good to see proper engines back at last! No running plate issues here! No assembly issues of any sort, all the lining is suitably thin, unlike on the last SK release of Exeter. Green appears darker too and oh yes (awaiting the cries of No it's a limited edition) Manston will becoming another BofB 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2015 Lovely models toboldlygo. So good to see proper engines back at last! No running plate issues here! Issues,Rob? No worries,we'll find some.Meantime,like James,I am well pleased.Now....for Big Ears Bude,I think.I have the Loco Exchanges example...the one in sunshine malachite.I know TBG is no fan of that livery.It isn't malachite anyway.....nothing like the colour of the mineral . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Ian Hargrave Posted December 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2015 No assembly issues of any sort, all the lining is suitably thin, unlike on the last SK release of Exeter. Green appears darker too and oh yes (awaiting the cries of No it's a limited edition) Manston will becoming another BofB I put it next to City Of Wells this afternoon....near enough..lining a tad thicker though.Glad you think the green is nearer the mark....I thought so but dare not say so in case I was hallucinating How about Hawkinge or Hurricane? Apparently,the latter was a notoriously bad steamer....bit like me really... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted December 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2015 I put it next to City Of Wells this afternoon....near enough..lining a tad thicker though.Glad you think the green is nearer the mark....I thought so but dare not say so in case I was hallucinating How about Hawkinge or Hurricane? Apparently,the latter was a notoriously bad steamer....bit like me really... Already done Hawkinge & Hurricane twice lol Probably be Lord B..., like Manston lost it's tender raves in late 62/early 63 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 With all this re-naming going on, I have dug out my pic of one of the 2 or 3 unrebuilt Light Pacifics which made it to the end of main line steam on BR in July 1967. Sad, sad days. 34102 'Lapford' in something like final form. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 No assembly issues of any sort, all the lining is suitably thin, unlike on the last SK release of Exeter. Green appears darker too and oh yes (awaiting the cries of No it's a limited edition) Manston will becoming another BofB Are you trying to tell me that my 2 SK-made Exeters are not perfect? There goes my retirement fund. ... Mind you, as a special last one time only offer you may have them both for £175. each. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted December 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 23, 2015 I put it next to City Of Wells this afternoon....near enough..lining a tad thicker though.Glad you think the green is nearer the mark....I thought so but dare not say so in case I was hallucinating How about Hawkinge or Hurricane? Apparently,the latter was a notoriously bad steamer....bit like me really... Not Hurricane, I'd guess; she was one of the three that had their tenders cut down as early as 1952. (The others being Tavistock and Combe Martin). John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 Here is another model which is free of A3 running plate/boiler assembly woes... 70044 'Earl Haig' recently outshopped. Below that a proper green paint job... Cheers and have a good Xmas everyone here has gone mad. It must be the heat you know. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 23, 2015 Author Share Posted December 23, 2015 I've been following this thread since it started, and thought I should add a comment. Rob asked what we thought was Hornby's best ever model, and many of their post 2001 offerings have been praised, either for their fidelity to prototype or their running quality. Over this period I have liked the Rebuilt MN (not the best by present standards, but the one that really set the ball rolling); the Gresley pacifics and the 08. However, I suggest that we should go back much further to find Hornby's best ever model. It was nowhere near present standards of accuracy or running quality, but it showed what might be possible in an era of steamroller wheels and X04 motors. when Hornby Dublo was held up as the running standard to aspire to. I'm thinking of the original "Evening Star" model, with its pancake tender drive motor, built to show that the haulage and running qualities of the Fleishmann BR52 were possible in a British outline model. It showed the then Triang-Hornby what might be possible, and, although there were retrograde steps and times when they rested on their laurels, the breed started to improve over the years. The standards of today seemed unobtainable back then. Food for thought, certainly. I think for me might be the B1 because it represents the best standard of modelling I have seen from any 00 RTR manufacturer yet, and appears to be free of weaknesses or drawbacks. Rather mundane prototype but when weathered it would get my vote. I was away from model railways between 1967 and 2004 so have great gaps in knowledge and appreciation. Here is my pic of a Hornby B1 with not much editing. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
'CHARD Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 With all this re-naming going on, I have dug out my pic of one of the 2 or 3 unrebuilt Light Pacifics which made it to the end of main line steam on BR in July 1967. Sad, sad days. 34102 'Lapford' in something like final form. 34102_Bulleid_WC_Shed_last_days_1967_1abcde_r1200.jpg where is the 'Love' button......? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted December 24, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 24, 2015 (edited) Lovely models toboldlygo. So good to see proper engines back at last! No running plate issues here! Hard to have running plate issues with a square body haha. Not to mention there isn't a running plate lol. Good to see the green has come back to a more acceptable colour! Edited December 24, 2015 by Hilux5972 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robmcg Posted December 26, 2015 Author Share Posted December 26, 2015 (edited) Another fine rebuilt West Country, certainly a contender for 'best ever', and great that it is back in production! 34013 'Okehampton', built 10/1945,rebuilt 10/1957, lasted to the very end of SR main line steam 9/7/67. Edited December 26, 2015 by robmcg 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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