br2975 Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Vesta packet curries were ideal for this activity, because if we all bought the same one - usually the beef curry for two (big appetites) - each, then we could just tip it in one big saucepan and the accumulated rice in another. Those were the days......... weren't they? Remember how if you didn't stir it there would be lumps that resembled sawdust in the middle of your curry - which also contained the odd raisin ! Vesta packet curries were ideal for this activity, because if we all bought the same one - usually the beef curry for two (big appetites) - each, then we could just tip it in one big saucepan and the accumulated rice in another. Those were the days......... weren't they? Remember how if you didn't stir it there would be lumps that resembled sawdust in the middle of your curry - which also contained the odd raisin ! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Anyway, here it is - as with all his 1965 photos it is from a half frame slide (24mm x 18mm) so quality is always a problem. This one is particularly poor. Dave, Thanks for trying. I think you can just make out the pipe (or whatever it is?) through the side window. Hope you don't mind but here is a pic of the bonnet top of D2232 in Darlington North Yard, 1966. I post it, in the hope someone may know of it's purpose? P Edited March 31, 2015 by Porcy Mane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamiel Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Thank you for those fantastic mid 60's York photos, as well as all the other photos. Wonderful reference for modellers of Northern climes in those days.Jamie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted April 1, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 1, 2015 The pipe looks like it is connected to the radiator header by the small pipe with the gate valve in it. Not knowing much about these locos (or any other for that matter!), could the original rad have been unpressurised? And this was a modification to make it pressurised with the pipe being an expansion vessel? Maybe the original duties of these pair required a lot of heavy work in 1st gear, whiched caused them to boil over... Or is it some sort of lubricant header, or a diesel header? Just some thoughts. Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Just some thoughts. I've been thinking along similar lines. Ex drivers have said that the heating during winter months could be abysmal on shunters. (Household type radiators plumbed into the cooling system apparently) This would lead to allsorts of workarounds that mainly involved blanking of the radiator aperture. I've wondered if it might have been an official mod/experiment aimed at curing the heating problem by preventing coolant cavitation? P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny777 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 (edited) Hi, Dave. Very nostalgic photo's have been posted by you of York this evening. The two tone green on the 47's is a livery which always suited them so well. Now, in photo' J243, of 40 D252, on a down parcels, August, 1963, I see that the ladder on the nose-end is still there - without referring to a book I have, I think that this 40 was, maybe, one of the last to have the ladder still in place the Summer of '63. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. The subject of ladders surviving on EE Type 4s has been discussed in another thread (but I cant remember which one, sorry) and I think we concluded that one kept its ladder into 1970, despite the conventional wisdom that they were all removed quite quickly. EDIT: to add it was Chris T's photo of D253 at Sandy in 1969 that clinched it. http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_11_2014/post-13986-0-33189600-1416341660.jpg Edited April 1, 2015 by jonny777 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 1, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 1, 2015 Some more photos of electrified lines this evening, though not all electric trains, with a variety of locations. Polesworth Britannia 70031 Byron up ex goods Nov 63_J085 Sandon Class 86 down ex pass June 76_C2824 Roade Class 310 to Coventry Oct 70_J2399 Norton Bridge 86258 up ex pass May 76_J5236 Norton Bridge Class 85 down ex pass May 76_J5241 David 28 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 1, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 1, 2015 Hi, Dave. Really like the photo's posted this evening. Plenty of smoke and steam in the first one of Britannia 70031 Byron. I like the way the water is reflecting things in C2824 at Sandon. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Hi. I believe that there were also cuts during the power workers strike in the winter of '70/'71 as well. So, with some cuts also in the Autumn of '77, that makes four lots of power cuts that the UK were hit with. All the best, Market65. There were indeed. I well remember going my ex-school's prize giving at that time; halfway along the road to the school, all the street lights went off. We did wonder whether the event would take place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 I worked in sales during the three day week and carried on as normal but power cuts etc were a pain in the butt hope we never go back to that ever again interesting photos. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium uax6 Posted April 2, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 2, 2015 I've been thinking along similar lines. Ex drivers have said that the heating during winter months could be abysmal on shunters. (Household type radiators plumbed into the cooling system apparently) This would lead to allsorts of workarounds that mainly involved blanking of the radiator aperture. I've wondered if it might have been an official mod/experiment aimed at curing the heating problem by preventing coolant cavitation? P I'm not sure it would help that much to be honest. Could it be some sort of a heat exchanger (are there any pipes coming off elsewhere?) to help keep the engine oil cool? Andy G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) (are there any pipes coming off elsewhere?) From the other two phots I have (both from the R.H. side of the loco) there's nothing that I can see. There what appears to be a small threaded cap protruding from the top of the "Pipe" about a foot from it's rear end. Cab end of Loco. From this phot the pipe looks like it could have a slight taper or be mounted across the bonnet top at a slight angle. Maybe it was a Bazooka to frighten off errand trespassers or where the driver kept his maps in case he got lost?? P Edited April 2, 2015 by Porcy Mane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 2, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2015 (edited) A look at the ECML today, long before electrification. This time we are north of Newark travelling to Retford. Muskham Class 55008 The Green Howards down ex pass Muskham 3rd Aug 74 C1735 Crow Park Class 31 D5557 down iron ore April 69 J1618 Normanton Lane crossing near Dukeries Junction 55015 Tulyar Aberdeen to Kings X Aug 77 J5808 Tuxford Class 40 up Flying Scotsman Sept 60 J018 Retford Class 40 up ex pass in heavy rain Feb 72 C845 David Edited April 4, 2015 by DaveF 38 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 Dave -- you spoil us (but I'm not complaining...). Can somebody please explain the purpose of the wrong-road miniature arm and the trap-point in the middle siding in J018? The vacuum-fitted iron-ore tipplers in J1618 are interesting. The magnificent scene of a Deltic in full cry in C1735 seems like yesterday, but it's actually over 40 years' ago... Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewartingram Posted April 2, 2015 Share Posted April 2, 2015 From the other two phots I have (both from the R.H. side of the loco) there's nothing that I can see. There what appears to be a small threaded cap protruding from the top of the "Pipe" about a foot from it's rear end. Cab end of Loco. From this phot the pipe looks like it could have a slight taper or be mounted across the bonnet top at a slight angle. D2231DarloPilotMk1SubCompEditSM.jpg Maybe it was a Bazooka to frighten off errand trespassers or where the driver kept his maps in case he got lost?? P To me, it looks like the chimney extension that fairground Burrells used to carry on the roof..... Stewart 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 2, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 2, 2015 Hi, Dave. Great photo's of the ECML tonight. I also like C1735 of the 55 on a down passenger train in August, 1974. A timeless view. And then, J018, what a good shot of a 40 on the up Flying Scotsman, complete with some Thompson coaching stock. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 3, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) A look at the ECML today, long before electrification. This time we are north of Newark travelling to Retford. r Retford Class 40 up ex pass in heavy rain Feb 72 C845.jpg *Retford Class 40 up ex pass in heavy rain Feb 72 C845 David Lots has changed *here, sadly not the weather! Love the Tuxford shot BTW. Phil Edited April 3, 2015 by Mallard60022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 30851 Posted April 3, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) Dave -- you spoil us (but I'm not complaining...). Can somebody please explain the purpose of the wrong-road miniature arm and the trap-point in the middle siding in J018? The vacuum-fitted iron-ore tipplers in J1618 are interesting. The magnificent scene of a Deltic in full cry in C1735 seems like yesterday, but it's actually over 40 years' ago... Bill Maybe not a good explanation but the line with the trap isn't a siding but the exit from Tuxford sidings so is a signaled running line - the siding on the left was, I believe, the head shunt for the sidings and the line on the right is a siding. You can see a photo of the other direction here http://signalboxes.com/tuxford-signalboxes.php (scroll down the page fro the shot of Tuxford Dukeries Junction) Rob Edited April 3, 2015 by 30851 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted April 3, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) Some photos taken at Heaton depot. I did post a few more some time ago. To recap I was there on a pre arranged visit in January 1990. Heaton Depot 1430321 under repair 20th Jan 90_C13914 Heaton Depot Class 108 20th Jan 90_C13926 Heaton Depot ex Stratord condemned breakdown coach 20th Jan 90_C13930 Heaton Depot condemned coaches 20th Jan 90_C13932 Heaton Depot 56124 up coal 20th Jan 90_C13944 Heaton Depot turntable 20th Jan 90_C13950 Edited to add a missing photo. David Edited April 3, 2015 by DaveF 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Interesting photos ,is the turntable still there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 3, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 3, 2015 Hi, Dave. Always good to see photo's of Heaton. It's fascinating to see the former Stratford breakdown coach in C13930 - it is clearly a Mk1 conversion, but I'm not sure what from. Love the shot of 56124 in C13944 working hard at the head of a MGR train. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 (edited) It's fascinating to see the former Stratford breakdown coach in C13930 - it is clearly a Mk1 conversion, but I'm not sure what from. According to Hugh Longworth's 'BR Mark 1 and Mark 2 Coaching Stock' tome, ADB975054 was a Doncaster-built Diag.183 BSO, no. E9200, converted in Dec. 1972. The ex-brake end is nearest the camera. Edited April 3, 2015 by talisman56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted April 3, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted April 3, 2015 Hi, talisman56. Thank you for that information. I will have to try and get a copy of that book - am off to the York Show tomorrow. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 Interesting photos ,is the turntable still there? Still there on my 2006 Quail map.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium newbryford Posted April 3, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 3, 2015 Hi, Dave. Always good to see photo's of Heaton. It's fascinating to see the former Stratford breakdown coach in C13930 - it is clearly a Mk1 conversion, but I'm not sure what from. Love the shot of 56124 in C13944 working hard at the head of a MGR train. Please keep the photo's coming, All the best, Market65. www.departmentals.com is always worth a look for departmental stuff. 975054 Cheers, mick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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