robertcwp Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Ii looks like an RKB, so would only be branded Buffet. Correct, RKB and lettered simply buffet because there was no restaurant section. Incidentally, the ER tended to mark its RB cars simply as 'Buffet' too, possibly because they often ran with a separate car for dining. LMR: M1657 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr ER: E1691_Colchester_13-4-82 by Robert Carroll, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 6, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) Another trip back to August 1975 to look at the S&D 150 event at Shildon. Does anyone recognise a younger version of themself? Shildon D49 246 24th Aug 75 C2345 Shildon Head Wrightson 0-4-0VB 24th Aug 75 C2347 Shildon B1 1306 Mayflower 24th Aug 75 C2356 Shildon 24th Aug 75 C2361 Shildon CR 419 24th Aug 75 C2375 Shildon 24th Aug 75 C2319 Edited to add a photo I missed out earlier. David Edited August 6, 2017 by DaveF 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 6, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) The second set are photos again taken around Radcliffe on Trent which as usual is between Grantham and Nottingham. The dates range fro 1975 to 1978. As Mum and Dad lived there for several years I have a lot of photos taken there to work through. Radcliffe on Trent Class 114 Grantham to Nottingham Mar 75 J4173 Radcliffe on Trent Class 37 probably 37092 Parkeston Quay to Manchester Mar 75 J4182 Radcliffe on Trent 20135 and ano Derby to Skegness Aug 77 J5746 Radcliffe on Trent 25122 shunting oil tanks Feb 78 C3677 This is probably better described as Rectory Junction, which is on the other side of the Trent from Radcliffe on Trent. The tankers were being shunted at the Colwick oil terminal. The view is taken looking west towards Rectory Junction. Radcliffe on Trent 47011 Parkeston Quay to Manchester Aug 78 C4100 Many thanks to Western Glory for sorting out the likely identity of 37092. David Edited August 8, 2017 by DaveF 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I do like that picture of the 25 in the mist! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted August 6, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 6, 2017 Does anyone recognise a younger version of themself? Well I was there somewhere, but no I don't! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 6, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 6, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Shildon photos. Especially the first one of Morayshire. I wish it was in steam, it's a personal favourite. The photos of Radcliffe on Trent are great, and show BR blue days at their best. And that misty clas 25 would make a great painting. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 7, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Class 47s at Swayfield for today, back in the 1970s. Swayfield Class 47 No 1106 11.00 Kings X to Newcastle Oct 71 J2782 Swayfield Class 47 1784 down freight Dec 71 J2799 Swayfield Class 47 1760 down 10.05 SO Kings X to Edinburgh July 72 J2976 Swayfield Class 47 No 1109 12.40 down Kings X to Hull Oct 72 J3112 Swayfield Class 47 47406 Friday 08.53 Bradford to Kings X April 78 J5986 David Edited August 7, 2017 by DaveF 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted August 7, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) J5986 is a cracker for including a dia.30 Griddle car as late as '78 - my 1979 Platform 5 book only has E1102 left in service. The dia.31 Griddles (1103-5) in Scotland lasted longer i think, but mainly on ScR internal services EDIT: by chance i found a pic showing the other side of E1102, still in service in april 1980: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jncarter1962/7980441796/in/album-72157626961879985/ Edited August 7, 2017 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Another cracking set of photos David, but there are of the ECML. Thank you again for sharing. As Swayfield seems to feature a lot in your photos, along with the High Dyke/Stoke Tunnel area, so I have dug out my old route maps from my time at Kings Cross, (1979-84), and share them with you below. It just so happens they take up from the last ones i copied and posted from Biggleswade to Connington, and cover from Connington to Grantham. ECML, 70-77.5 MP. Connington to Peterborough New England ECML, 77.5-88 MP. Peterborough New England to Essendine. ECML, 88-99 MP. Essendine to Stoke. By my calculation Swayfield is around the 95mp. The 75mph restriction on the slows at 96-7mp is the site of Corby Glen station. ECML. 99-106.25 MP. Stoke to Grantham, Nottingham Branch Junction. As I intend to keep on scanning my route maps, I'll post them on here with Davids permission. It would be good to put them all together in sequence in one post, only I'm not sure which would be the best forum to do this. Any suggestions welcome as to which forum would be the best to post to start the topic for them? Paul J. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertcwp Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 J5986 is a cracker for including a dia.30 Griddle car as late as '78 - my 1979 Platform 5 book only has E1102 left in service. The dia.31 Griddles (1103-5) in Scotland lasted longer i think, but mainly on ScR internal services EDIT: by chance i found a pic showing the other side of E1102, still in service in april 1980: https://www.flickr.com/photos/jncarter1962/7980441796/in/album-72157626961879985/ E1102 had air brakes and electric heating which possibly contributed towards its survival in service that late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 7, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Another cracking set of photos David, but there are of the ECML. Thank you again for sharing. As Swayfield seems to feature a lot in your photos, along with the High Dyke/Stoke Tunnel area, so I have dug out my old route maps from my time at Kings Cross, (1979-84), and share them with you below. It just so happens they take up from the last ones i copied and posted from Biggleswade to Connington, and cover from Connington to Grantham. As I intend to keep on scanning my route maps, I'll post them on here with Davids permission. It would be good to put them all together in sequence in one post, only I'm not sure which would be the best forum to do this. Any suggestions welcome as to which forum would be the best to post to start the topic for them? Paul J. Paul, I'm perfectly happy for you to post the relevant ones here. If you want a thread on them, which I think would be very useful, then I would suggest you put it in: Prototype: UK Prototype Discussions (not questions) . That is where my photo threads are placed. David Edited August 7, 2017 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 7, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Swayfield photos. I see the Hull service, in J3112, is formed almost entirely of early MkII's. I thought most of the Hull services were mainly Mk1 stock. Perhaps the introduction of MkIId stock had enabled those early MkII's to be cascaded to lesser services. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I'm just catching up on the last week's pictures after being away (and I don't tend to bother viewing the thread because you don't get the full impact of the shots on a smartphone!). I was itching to get back and up to date. One observation - J4182 can't be 37 258 as it is one of the first series (37 001 - 119) - split headcode boxes. I'm afraid that I can't/daren't offer an alternative, though, as it's not quite sharp enough when zoomed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark54 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 J5986 from the formation was the Friday 08:53 Bradford-KX (which had a 6th TSO). The last 4 coaches started from Halifax at 08:40 and were attached at Wakefield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 7, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 7, 2017 J5986 from the formation was the Friday 08:53 Bradford-KX (which had a 6th TSO). The last 4 coaches started from Halifax at 08:40 and were attached at Wakefield. Mark, Thanks once again. When I looked at the image I thought the notes saying it was from Hull seemed wrong. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted August 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 8, 2017 Radcliffe on Trent 20135 and ano Derby to Skegness Aug 77 J5746 The Jolly Fisherman services for August 1977 are pretty well recorded. The only time 20135 worked was on Thursday 4th, with 20068 on the 09:20 Derby - Skegness, and the 19:20 return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 8, 2017 Radcliffe on Trent 20135 and ano Derby to Skegness Aug 77 J5746 The Jolly Fisherman services for August 1977 are pretty well recorded. The only time 20135 worked was on Thursday 4th, with 20068 on the 09:20 Derby - Skegness, and the 19:20 return. Thanks very much for the details. I have checked dad's slide catalogue and that date would be right, it was one of the first photos he took that August. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) Peaks on the Midland today with a few photos taken at Ratcliffe on Soar in the second half of the 1970s. Once again I'm not sure if all the train destinatyins/origins are correct. Ratcliffe on Soar Class 45 St Pancras to Sheffield Mar 75 J4151 14.05 St Pancras to Sheffield Ratcliffe on Soar Class 45 up Mar 75 J4154 probably 1C76 15.54 Derby to St Pancras Ratcliffe on Soar Class 45 down St Pancras to Sheffield Sept 75 J4904 possibly 13.05 from St Pancras Ratcliffe on Soar Class 45 down June 76 J5301 16.40 St Pancras to Sheffield. Ratcliffe on Soar Class 45 45104? St Pancras to Nottingham April 78 J5991 David Edited August 8, 2017 by DaveF 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) J5991 cant be '099 as they didn't go that high; most likely 45104 (D59) The Royal Warwickshire Fusilier Edited August 8, 2017 by leopardml2341 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 J5991 cant be '099 as they didn't go that high; most likely 45104 (D59) The Royal Warwickshire Fusilier Agree. It's definitely a 45/1 as you can see it is ETH fitted on the buffer beam. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 8, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 8, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Ratcliffe on Soar photos. The Peaks, as always, make a most majestic sight at the head of those expresses. It's a pity we've since gone backwards with inferior units having taken their place. In J4154, the Peak is well framed by those two trees. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEDDYBEAR D9521 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 The second set are photos again taken around Radcliffe on Trent which as usual is between Grantham and Nottingham. The dates range fro 1975 to 1978. As Mum and Dad lived there for several years I have a lot of photos taken there to work through. Radcliffe on Trent Class 114 Grantham to Nottingham Mar 75 J4173.jpg Radcliffe on Trent Class 114 Grantham to Nottingham Mar 75 J4173 Radcliffe on Trent 37258 Parkeston Quay to Manchester Mar 75 J4182.jpg Radcliffe on Trent 37258 Parkeston Quay to Manchester Mar 75 J4182 Radcliffe on Trent 20135 and ano Derby to Skegness Aug 77 J5746.jpg Radcliffe on Trent 20135 and ano Derby to Skegness Aug 77 J5746 Radcliffe on Trent 25122 shunting oil tanks Feb 78 C3677.jpg Radcliffe on Trent 25122 shunting oil tanks Feb 78 C3677 This is probably better described as Rectory Junction, which is on the other side of the Trent from Radcliffe on Trent. The tankers were being shunted at the Colwick oil terminal. The view is taken looking west towards Rectory Junction. Radcliffe on Trent 47011 Parkeston Quay to Manchester Aug 78 C4100.jpg Radcliffe on Trent 47011 Parkeston Quay to Manchester Aug 78 C4100 David J4182Never knew 37258 was a split headcode 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) J4182 Never knew 37258 was a split headcode 37 It's quite possible the number is wrong in Dad's notes - he often tried to take the number off the slide, it may be 370xx. I certainly can't read it on the scan. It's one of the problems of working on old photos - as all caption writers know. David Edited August 8, 2017 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 8, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 8, 2017 J5991 cant be '099 as they didn't go that high; most likely 45104 (D59) The Royal Warwickshire Fusilier Agree. It's definitely a 45/1 as you can see it is ETH fitted on the buffer beam. Paul J. Again I think it will be a slide where Dad had tried to read the number off the slide having not made a note at the time - and if he did make a note at the time he may have got it wrong. I know how hard it is both to take a photo and read the number correctly as a train goes by. I have amended to caption to 45104?. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 I concur with Rob's sentiments on the Peaks on the MML. Great times. Another nice selection thanks Dave. Regards Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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