RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted September 23, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 19/09/2019 at 17:05, SP Steve said: According to the timetable the next up working to the "Royal Scot" would have been the 10:35 Glasgow Central - Liverpool Lime Street / Manchester Victoria (which conveyed a portion from Edinburgh which left Waverley at 10:21). The Train Marshalling Circular of the time shows this to be composed of Mk2 Air Braked stock (not shown as air conditioned) so possible this was the working shown. The full consist was given as BFK - FK - TSO - RMB - TSO - TSO - BFK - TSO - TSO - TSO - NEA The next possible culprit was 11:23 Glasgow - Birmingham New Street (again with a Edinburgh portion) which was Mk2 Air Conditioned stock The stock for the "Royal Scot" shows as Mk3 and was composed of NEA - FO - FO - RKB - TSO - TSO - TSO - TSO - TSO - TSO Sorry for jumping back some days but I have been away and am just catching up. I am also showing my own ignorance here but could someone please offer a brief description of the "NEA" coach code in the train consist shown above. I am not immediately familiar with that term and cannot find any reference to this in lists of BR coach designations. Probably very obvious and I am being dense but, for the moment, I would appreciate it if someone could humour me. Thanks. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 23, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) NEAs were Mk1 BGs fitted with BR4 bogies and through(?) ETH for working in passenger trains. They were maintained for 100mph running. NHAs were the same but 110mph running. Eventually renumbered in the series 92000 to 92207, though when I don’t recall. Edited September 23, 2019 by brushman47544 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted September 23, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) It's simply the TOPS code for a BG: NE- fitted with B4 bogies for 100 mph A - air brakes Edited September 23, 2019 by keefer 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackthorn Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 22/09/2019 at 17:39, DaveF said: It doesn't reach the ground, it is simply a part of one of the structures of the original 1500VDC system, one is shown in the link to flickr below. https://www.flickr.com/photos/21602076@N05/8412443124 If you search for "Altrincham station" using Google and then select "Images" you will find several photos showing the type of structure, or follow this link: https://www.google.com/search?q=altrincham+station&safe=active&rlz=1C1DSGP_enGB481GB481&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiT0_GhsOXkAhXqSRUIHdilDJ8Q_AUIEygC&biw=1920&bih=937#imgrc=_ For anyone who is interested in the line from Manchester to Altrincham I can recommend two books: "The Manchester South Junction and Altrincham Railway" by Frank Dixon, published by Oakwood ISBN 0 85361 454 7 - that is the 1994 edition. "Altrincham to Manchester before Metrolink" by N R Knight, published by Foxline, ISBN 1 870119 60 6 Both books have a number of photos showing the structures used to support the catenary. David Thank you, David. I can see that so clearly now. At least I'm not having a Senior Moment yet........mind you, if I believe Alan Tichmarsh, I had better pick my hole on the wrong side of the grass.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted September 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 04/08/2017 at 22:45, lanchester said: About this time (1974-5) Derby Litchurch Lane was churning out large numbers of containers branded Bell, in a fetching purply colour Yes, and one of the tricks played on new trainees was to shut you inside to look for leaks by seeing if any light seeped in - while everyone else went for lunch and left you there for an hour. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 24, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 24, 2019 For some reason a number of the photos I took on a visit to Mossend on 29th March 1989 depict light engine movements but there is an emu in one of the photos. As far as the weather was concerned it was dull and cold - it must have been miserable as I actually made a note in amongst the details of the day's photos. Mossend 303087 Coatbridge to Motherwell 29th March 89 C11810.jpg Mossend 26028 down l e 29th March 89 C11812 Mossend 37040 up l e 29th March 89 C11813.jpg Mossend 86508 l e 29th March 89 C11815.jpg Mossend 37406 le 29th March 89 C11817 David 44 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PannierTanker14 Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On the latest photos of the class 37s, it looks like they’re taking electricity off of the power lines. Actually it’s a power line support behind them creating the illusion. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium iands Posted September 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2019 Interesting to note that the telegraph poles are still in-situ, even if the wires aren't. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 When these photoes were taken I worked at Mossend TOPS office, the road to which ran behind the scrapyard in some of the pictures. Cycling in for the night shift one Saturday the scrappies (giant) guard dog appeared from nowhere and chased me down the road, managing to bite my heel. Fortunately, by the Sunday morning it had disappeared and I got home safely. Think of the compensation I could claim nowadays ! 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted September 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2019 Great pictures, the pile of cars adds to the interest too 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 All the cars are a lot newer than the 37! The blue Marina estate may have been in a crash as the centre pillar is missing on the nearside, perhaps cut out during a rescue. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted September 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2019 All the cars are newer than any of the trains! Doubt you would see real minis dumped like that now 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted September 24, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 24, 2019 I've recently been watching some YouTube videos of London buses c.1986/7 and a lot of those types of car were still in use. So it's not like they have necessarily been in the scrapyard for that long. They might be classic '70s cars but they lasted a lot longer than you think - i suppose cars were easier to fix then anyway and there would be plenty of scrappers to provide parts. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Piewalker Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 Strathclyde PTE Orange on those 303s was perfect. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted September 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, keefer said: I've recently been watching some YouTube videos of London buses c.1986/7 and a lot of those types of car were still in use. So it's not like they have necessarily been in the scrapyard for that long. They might be classic '70s cars but they lasted a lot longer than you think - i suppose cars were easier to fix then anyway and there would be plenty of scrappers to provide parts. I used to frequent scrapyards a lot at that period and that was the general fodder, there were yards that were classed as specialist that had newer write off cars but normal yards were full of the stuff we see in David's pictures 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 24, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 24, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the Mossend photo’s which are fantastic and just right for anyone modelling a scrapyard scene, with, as mentioned already, those cars awaiting scrapping in the adjacent scrapyard. In C11815, with 86508, on a light engine movement, you have captured a great portrait shot of that locomotive. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 25, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2019 A look at Thornaby this afternoon, one photo is from 1990, the rest are from December 1992. Once again they mostly just show locomotives. Thornaby 37885 37503 37512 47224 up light engines12th May 90 C14451.jpg Thornaby156444 up 5th December 92 C18148 Thornaby 47205 l e 5th December 92 C18149 Thornaby Classes 37 and 60 also Classes 08 and 20 5th December 92 C18151.jpg Thornaby Class 60 60030 l e 5th December 92 C18154 David 42 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the Thornaby photo’s which are all full of interest. In C18251, with classes 37 and 60 and also classes 08 and 20, you can see a most interesting four wheel vehicle next to the class 08. I cannot recall having seen such a vehicle, and wonder what it was used for. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold russ p Posted September 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2019 Fantastic pictures David, one of the 37s could be 419 quite amazing that I drove it up the back then and still drive it today in the same livery The four wheeled vehicle is preheat heat boiler van, not sure why by several turned up from the Norwich area they hung around for a bit before going for scrap at Thompson's 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted September 25, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Market65 said: Hi, Dave. I like the Thornaby photo’s which are all full of interest. In C18251, with classes 37 and 60 and also classes 08 and 20, you can see a most interesting four wheel vehicle next to the class 08. I cannot recall having seen such a vehicle, and wonder what it was used for. With warmest regards, Rob. Looks like Dobbin the carriage heater used at Finsbury Park. 1 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold MarshLane Posted September 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 25, 2019 Superb shots Dave, shame to think that all of Thornaby Depot has been demolished and Tees Yard is but a shadow of its former self now. Progress apparently..... Rich 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 That pre-heating van is on a 15'wb chassis from a Plate wagon. Others used 12' wb underframes from SR Loco Coal wagons. I think there may also have been conversions using BR Horseboxes and Insulfish vans. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Thornaby must have been close to Toton size. And then there was the new looking roundhouse...anyone know owt about that? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 26, 2019 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2019 (edited) Back to the ECML today at York between 1986 and 1994. York Class 141 55029 and 55009 Harrogate to York 28th July 86 C7663.jpg York 47657 Newcastle to Poole 26th June 88 C9530.jpg York Class 114 parcels dmu and 144001 Selby to York 26th June 88 C9542.jpg York 43061 up 2nd July 89 C13851.jpg York 90017 17th June 94 C19483.jpg David Edited September 26, 2019 by DaveF 38 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 26, 2019 Hi, Dave. I like the York photo’s which are so nostalgic and full of interest. In C9542, with a converted parcels DMU and 144001 on a Selby to York service on the 26th June, 1988, the parcels unit is actually one of the Derby heavyweight class 114 units. You can tell from the ‘half window’ after what was the first passenger door, and also the oval buffers - the 108’s did not have those buffers as far as I can recall. The body profile is different too. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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