Dave F's photos - ongoing - more added each day

[brushman47544]

1 hour ago, DaveF said:

Another random selection for this morning, mainly places not often photographed.

Oldcoates South Yorkshire Joint Railway April 69 J1608

That track bed just looks "wrong". The rust on the rails suggests years of non-use whereas the permanent way looks well maintained with no embankment growth or leaves on the line.

[Compound2632]

1 hour ago, brushman47544 said:

That track bed just looks "wrong". The rust on the rails suggests years of non-use whereas the permanent way looks well maintained with no embankment growth or leaves on the line.

 

It's surprising just how quickly steel rails go rusty without the regular passage of trains - that line might have been out of use for only a few damp early spring weeks.

[Southernman46]

19 hours ago, St Enodoc said:

Wouldn't the guard have entered the consist in his journal?

Even if he had - It was the curious nature of the incident - other than the flapping vac pipe and missing tail lamp, there literally was NO indication the other two vehicles had ever been attached or any sign they had departed the railway infrastructure. It would have been easy to dismiss it at that moment as a badly prepared train especially if the guard hadn't quite been up to mark in his preparation either.

This was in the dark on an embankment and the two vehicles concerned had apparently almost "jumped" off the track ending up on their roofs in the orchard - I am surprised that no photos exist - certainly none of the people locally that were involved have any cos I've asked.

[St Enodoc]

2 hours ago, Oldddudders said:

In theory, yes. But in the heat of the moment, while in charge of the most-monitored train of the day, in the dark in the small hours, I suspect quite a few guards would not have been checking any such thing....

 

37 minutes ago, Southernman46 said:

It would have been easy to dismiss it at that moment as a badly prepared train especially if the guard hadn't quite been up to mark in his preparation either.

That's what I was getting at. If he'd been up to the mark he would have known, at best, that the rear vehicle after the incident wasn't of the type it was supposed to be; or, at worst, that the train was shorter than it was supposed to be.

 

37 minutes ago, Southernman46 said:

the flapping vac pipe and missing tail lamp

These are, generally, good clues that the train has become divided.

Edited November 21, 2023 by St Enodoc

[65179]

4 hours ago, brushman47544 said:

That track bed just looks "wrong". The rust on the rails suggests years of non-use whereas the permanent way looks well maintained with no embankment growth or leaves on the line.

 

If it's at Oldcotes then it would be the branch off the SYJ to Firbeck Main Colliery. This closed in late 1968 which would explain the odd state of the infrastructure.

 

Simon

[big jim]

6 hours ago, DaveF said:

 

 

Penns MR Nuneaton to Wolverhampton line April 71 J2635

 

 

Penns MR Nuneaton to Wolverhampton line bridge over A4097 April 71 J2636  taken from the passenger seat of the car by Dad, Mum was driving.

 

David

that pipe in the first pic is still there, doesn’t look quite so new now though! 
 

I take it the road in the 2nd pic is now part of the A38 dual carriageway? 

looks like still haven’t let those units though! 

[DaveF]

1 hour ago, big jim said:

that pipe in the first pic is still there, doesn’t look quite so new now though! 
 

I take it the road in the 2nd pic is now part of the A38 dual carriageway? 

looks like still haven’t let those units though! 

 

I have to admit I haven't got a clue, it is an area I don't know at all and it's one of Dad's photos.  I'll have a look at his notes and see if they say anything more.

 

David.

[DaveF]

A bit of a mixed bag again, starting on the branch to Cotgrave mine, then visiting Radcliffe on Trent and Eggington.  There is also one at Ollerton.

 

Bridge on Cotgrave branch near Stragglethorpe 9th June 89 C11980

 

 

Radcliffe on Trent Class 114 Grantham to Nottingham March 79 C4354

 

 

Radcliffe on Trent Class 47 Parkeston Quay to Manchester April 80 C4971 47014

 

 

Radcliffe on Trent viaduct from north side May 75 C2053

 

Eggington Class 120 Derby to Crewe June 69 J1720

 

 

Eggington station GN Grantham to Stafford line  June 69  J1721

 

 

Ollerton 56011 westbound coal April 80 C5009  LD&ECR

 

David

Edited November 21, 2023 by DaveF

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s a fascinating random selection of photo’s. J2755, of Ellistown colliery, in August, 1971, is a superb photo’, and is full of interest for modellers. 

 

The mixed bag of photo’s, starting on the branch to Cotgrave mine, then visiting Radcliffe on Trent and Eggington, with one at Ollerton, are a remarkable selection. J1721, at Eggington station, on the GN Grantham to Stafford line, in June, 1969, is an excellent photo’, taken by your Dad, of a sad scene with the line being lifted. It is a valuable record of the Beeching legacy, and hopefully something that will never happen again.
 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[Compound2632]

2 hours ago, big jim said:

I take it the road in the 2nd pic is now part of the A38 dual carriageway? 

 

Yes, I was going to say, not exactly Penns - the bridges in the vicinity of the site of the station are all over the railway - but rather to nearer the junction on the north vertex of the Water Orton / Castle Bromwich triangle.

[brushman47544]

C4971 is 47014 going by the weathering on the cab roof. Photos I’ve found of 47114 around the same date show the roof much cleaner.

[JeffP]

C2053, is the block of flats in the centre background at Clifton?

[DaveF]

14 minutes ago, JeffP said:

C2053, is the block of flats in the centre background at Clifton?

 

 

No, it's to the east of the city, really Sneinton, just by the level crossing on the lines to Lincoln and Grantham, before the junction at Netherfield.

 

It is just to the north of Nottingham Racecourse and hence east of Nottingham Midland and London Road.

 

Clifton is on the south west side of Nottingham.

 

I have to admit i took me a while to remember the names of the places, I haven't lived in or near Nottingham for about 50 years now and although I have relatives there we don't see each other except at funerals!

 

David

[DaveF]

Heading north on the ECML from Newcastle this morning, looking at Heaton and Damdykes, just south of Cramlington.

 

 

Heaton 47443 down ecs Newcastle to Heaton Feb 83 C5975

 

 

Heaton Class 101 Newcastle to Morpeth Feb 83 C5976

 

 

Heaton down pw machine 25th June 84 C6580

 

 

Damdykes 43043 up ex pass 10.23  3rd Nov 90 C15486

 

 

Damdykes 47467 up parcels 10.39 3rd Nov 90 C15488

 

 

Damdykes 158742 Morpeth to Newcastle  12.05 2nd Feb 91 C15564

 

David

[MidlandRed]

On 21/11/2023 at 08:54, DaveF said:

 

Penns MR Nuneaton to Wolverhampton line April 71 J2635

 

 

Penns MR Nuneaton to Wolverhampton line bridge over A4097 April 71 J2636  taken from the passenger seat of the car by Dad, Mum was driving.

 

David

In terms of locations, the rail route is probably better known to most as the Sutton Park line (runs north from junction west of Water Orton to the former junction at Ryecroft). Both locations are at the southern end - the second photo, as Jim said is across the former A4097 (now dual carriageway A38) just west of Minworth. This is almost at the junction with the New St - Nuneaton/Derby line. I well remember the bridge in the photo, with its painted advertisement. Nice period ‘Ansells Bittermen’ ad as well! 
 

Penns (presumably the location of the first photo) is further north on the route and in the south eastern outskirts of Sutton Coldfield. 

[Dagworth]

2 hours ago, DaveF said:

 

 

 

Heaton 47443 down ecs Newcastle to Heaton Feb 83 C5975

Great weathering pattern

 

Andi

[keefer]

20 hours ago, DaveF said:

Ollerton 56011 westbound coal April 80 C5009  LD&ECR

When you've weathered your loco and just bought some wagons to go with it.

[DaveF]

Mainly around Hellifield in this set together with one from Culgaith.

 

 

Culgaith Class 25 up freight Aug 77  J5763

 

 

m Hellifield LMS Class 5 44842 down goods Sept 66 J635

 

 

Hellifield LMS Class 5 44912 up goods Sept 66 J639

 

 

Hellifield BR 9F 92125 down empty lime April 67 J854

 

 

Hellifield Class111 Morecambe to Leeds Jan 68  J1213

 

David

Edited November 22, 2023 by DaveF

[Stoke West]

14 minutes ago, DaveF said:

Mainly around Hellifield in this set together with one from Culgaith.

 

 

Culgaith Class 25 up freight Aug 77  J5763

 

 

m Hellifield LMS Class 5 44842 down goods Sept 66 J635

 

 

Hellifield LMS Class 5 44912 up goods Sept 66 J639

 

 

Hellifield BR 9F 92125 down empty lime April 67 J854

 

 

Hellifield Class110 Morecambe to Leeds Jan 68  J1213

 

David

J5763 must be the Gunnie to Penyffordd (Padeswood cement works)

[Market65]

Good evening, David. That’s a fantastic selection of photo’s going north on the ECML, from Newcastle at Heaton and Damdykes, just south of Cramlington. C6580, at Heaton, with a down permanent way machine, on the 25th June, 1984, is a expertly composed photo’, and I see the door is open and a pair of brown boots are visible. 

 

The photo’s from around Hellifield along with one from Culgaith, are a superb set. J639, at Hellifield, with LMS Class 5, 44912, on an up goods train, in September, 1966, is an excellent photo’, and again it can be seen the very sad state steam was in close to the end of steam on BR.

The last photo’ at Hellifield, with a Morecambe to Leeds train, in January, 1968, is a delightful shot. The unit is a Metropolitan Cammell class 111. The differences between 110’s and 111’s are many, with the cab windows being a big clue.
 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

[DaveF]

44 minutes ago, Market65 said:

 

 

The photo’s from around Hellifield along with one from Culgaith, are a superb set. J639, at Hellifield, with LMS Class 5, 44912, on an up goods train, in September, 1966, is an excellent photo’, and again it can be seen the very sad state steam was in close to the end of steam on BR.

The last photo’ at Hellifield, with a Morecambe to Leeds train, in January, 1968, is a delightful shot. The unit is a Metropolitan Cammell class 111. The differences between 110’s and 111’s are many, with the cab windows being a big clue.
 

With warmest regards,

 

Rob.

 

I was sure I'd typed 111.  Perhaps I need to go to Specsavers.

 

David

[DaveF]

Some ECML photos  at Connington tip which is south of Peterborough, Newark and Muskham which is north of Newark.  At the time of taking the photos there was no fence along the line north of the station at Newark.  The Connington photos were taken with permission.

 

Connington CCE Tip Class 55 down ex pass April 79 C4419  55011

 

 

Connington CCE Tip 254011 up ex pass April 79 C4420  

 

 

Newark on Trent Class 55 up ex pass July 77 C3399

  55016

 

Newark on Trent Class 47 down ex passJuly 77 C3400  47415

 

 

Muskham Class 47 down Feb 71 J2507  12.20 Kings X to Hull

 

Many thanks to The Pilotman for the loco numbers.

 

David

Edited November 23, 2023 by DaveF

[The Pilotman]

C4419 55011 THE ROYAL NORTHUMBERLAND FUSILIERS

C3399 55016 GORDON HIGHLANDER

C3400 47415

J2507 I’ll pass on that one….

[stewartingram]

Conington Tip. I've heard it referred to as Cambridgeshire's only coal mine. The story goes that ash etc was dumped there from the locosheds at Peterborough, and in the later years there was coal being picked for the tip and used! Also the  tender presently behind the GNR Single No.1 was 'discovered' there after many years of use as sludge carrier.

[corneliuslundie]

Proper trains, ie hauled by Deltics. Nice.

Jonathan