lmsforever Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 At last some pictures of Lieth always wanted to see what facilities were there and traffic to and from etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Chap looking into smokebox "Don't feed the bloody depot cat,the mice are winning! " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dvdlcs Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 Interesting boxes on the freightliner (J1820). I'd assumed that the containers were all BR/Freightliner owned/liveried at that time. Also looks like a low flat box on the last flat - almost looks like a ballast weight for the end of the train from here :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted August 18, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2015 Hi, Dave. A great set of photo's of the WCML. Interesting to see that all of the class 86 loco's have white cab roofs, and the train in that last photo' certainly has a surfeit of first class accommodation at the London end of the train. All the best, Market65. The roof domes of the 86s were actually rail grey - the cab window surrounds were white before succumbing to the full yellow ends. This came up a while back, there were colour pics on Flickr of new/clean 86s which showed the difference between the windows and roofs, possibly by BarkingBill? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 18, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 18, 2015 The roof domes of the 86s were actually rail grey - the cab window surrounds were white before succumbing to the full yellow ends. This came up a while back, there were colour pics on Flickr of new/clean 86s which showed the difference between the windows and roofs, possibly by BarkingBill? I'm not convinced that the cab roofs were always grey from new. The locos were delivered from 1965 when it was only just being decided to use Rail blue and grey. It is very difficult to tell from colour photos on flickr (or elsewhere) as very often the roofs are overexposed, so you cannot tell whether they are grey or white. However there are a number of mine and Dad's photos of 86s in this thread and on flickr, a number taken from overbridges. Some are clearly grey, but others which are not over exposed, look white, certainly in comparison to the grey dirt on parts of the roof To be honest I doubt we'll ever know for sure. However almost all the references I can find, both in print and on the web suggest white as the roof colour, when first built. Incidentally the original colour of the locos seems open to debate, some sources state rail blue, others electric blue. Most of the photos I have are clearly rail blue, but in one or two early ones the loco looks considerably paler than blue grey coaches David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 18, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2015 A few from around Waterloo and Clapham Junction for today. Most of my photo's (and Dad's) were taken whatever the weather if we happened to be near a railway - so some do look a bit drab. I always found that no matter how dismal the weather is a trip to watch and photograph trains always lifts my spirits. It was even more noticeable when I was still working when taking photos was a good antidote to the trials and tribulations of the job, so I took (and still take) photos in almost any type of weather. Waterloo Platform 6 June 75 C2139 Waterloo East Class 411 7123 up pass Jan 79 C4266 Clapham Junction Class 416 5781 May 81 C5369 Clapham Junction Class 455 5819 down pass 21st Nov 87 C9253 Clapham Junction Class 47 47567 Red Star to Liverpool 21st Nov 87 C9268 David 32 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold grandadbob Posted August 18, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) A few from around Waterloo and Clapham Junction for today. Most of my photo's (and Dad's) were taken whatever the weather if we happened to be near a railway - so some do look a bit drab. I always found that no matter how dismal the weather is a trip to watch and photograph trains always lifts my spirits. It was even more noticeable when I was still working when taking photos was a good antidote to the trials and tribulations of the job, so I took (and still take) photos in almost any type of weather. I think that's why yours (and your Dad's) photos are so good - they show the railway as it was (and is) normally and not pristine and bathed in sunshine all the time. Edited August 18, 2015 by grandadbob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Some are clearly grey, but others which are not over exposed, look white, certainly in comparison to the grey dirt on parts of the roof Sort of like these. https://flic.kr/p/9tGbqM & https://flic.kr/p/9tJb9M P Edited August 18, 2015 by Porcy Mane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mark Forrest Posted August 18, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 18, 2015 I'm not convinced that the cab roofs were always grey from new. The locos were delivered from 1965 when it was only just being decided to use Rail blue and grey. It is very difficult to tell from colour photos on flickr (or elsewhere) as very often the roofs are overexposed, so you cannot tell whether they are grey or white. In British Rail Fleet Survey 6 - Electric Locomotives (Haresnape), it states the cab roof was "a pale mushroom/grey colour, made of fibreglass, very close in shade to the painted window surrounds". I wonder if they were unpainted and the colour was in fact the gelcoat of the fibreglass? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted August 18, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 18, 2015 I always found that no matter how dismal the weather is a trip to watch and photograph trains always lifts my spirits. It was even more noticeable when I was still working when taking photos was a good antidote to the trials and tribulations of the job, so I took (and still take) photos in almost any type of weather. Same here - I was out for a short time around dinner today and it was horrendous weather - but it was a 66 to "my" sidings so too good to resist. Lots of people do the "trains are more fun in the sun" shots, few of us record the all weather workings. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 I would say it was a fair bet that J2408 at Kilsby was a Motorail, given the predominance of Mk1 First Class coaches Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 18, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 18, 2015 Hi, Dave. Like the photo's of Clapham Junction and Waterloo. I see that in photo' C5369, of class 416 5781 in May 1981, that from the size of the guards van that we are seeing one of the former NER units that was converted for use on the SR after abandonment of the Tyneside electric services in the mid '60's. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 a Shenfield 254024 special York to Stratford via Ipswich 7th April 79 C4416.jpg Shenfield 254024 special York to Stratford via Ipswich 7th April 79 C4416 David I was on that HST! A much younger GG back then..... What a superb thread David, thank you for sharing your photos with us. I have just spent the past couple of days looking through this excellent thread. Being a GE boy, I have especially enjoyed the photos taken on the GEML. Great to see photos of 309s again, shame that they are not still working today, it would be nice to have one of those on my commute home! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 19, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2015 (edited) Some photos of the ECML taken between Darlington and Durham this evening. It's a part of the country we haven't visited much so far. Most of the photos are quite recent - only 18 to 20 years old Hett Mill 60020 down empty lime Redcar to Hardendale 23rd March 96 C20824 Sunderland Bridge 47358 Alcan Lynemouth to Cardiff 31st May 96 C21011 Sunderland Bridge 60021 empty lime redcar to Hardendale 30th May 95 C20207 Croxdale Class 55 Edinburgh to Kings X The Talisman and Class 31 down light engine 5th Aug 76 C2954 Croxdale Class 43 down Northern Lights Kings X to Aberdeen 18th Oct 97 C23156 David Edited August 19, 2015 by DaveF 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted August 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 19, 2015 Dave, Slight slipof the finger on this one. Hett Mill 60024 down empty lime Redcar to Hardendale 23rd March 96 C20824 The loco has 020 on the front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 19, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 19, 2015 Dave, Slight slipof the finger on this one. Hett Mill 60024 down empty lime Redcar to Hardendale 23rd March 96 C20824 The loco has 020 on the front. Thanks very much Phil. I thought it was about time I got a loco number wrong again! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 19, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 19, 2015 Hi, Dave. A great set of photo's of the ECML. In C21011 at Sunderland Bridge, 31st,May,1996, I like the exhaust eminating from 47358 which is clearly accelerating it's train away - signals - P Way slack? All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted August 19, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted August 19, 2015 Hi, Dave. A great set of photo's of the ECML. In C21011 at Sunderland Bridge, 31st,May,1996, I like the exhaust eminating from 47358 which is clearly accelerating it's train away - signals - P Way slack? All the best, Market65. It was already moving quite fast but I've never known trains on the ECML hang about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted August 20, 2015 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2015 Some from the southern end of the Settle and Carlisle today. Settle Junction Class 110, leading a mixed set, Leeds to Morecambe July 67 J956 Settle LMS 8F down mineral Dec 66 J718 Helwith Bridge BR 9F 92076 up goods Dec 66 J714 Selside LMS Jubilee up Waverley Edinburgh to St Pancras Aug 65 J247 Ribblehead LMS Class 5 down goods April 67 J0858 David 43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimleygrid Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Some photos of the ECML taken between Darlington and Durham this evening. It's a part of the country we haven't visited much so far. Most of the photos are quite recent - only 18 to 20 years old a Hett Mill 60024 down empty lime Redcar to Hardendale 23rd March 96 C20824.jpg Hett Mill 60020 down empty lime Redcar to Hardendale 23rd March 96 C20824 b Sunderland Bridge 60021 empty lime redcar to Hardendale 30th May 95_C20207.jpg Sunderland Bridge 60021 empty lime redcar to Hardendale 30th May 95 C20207 Lovely David, Metals Sector 60s......my favourite! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold highpeakman Posted August 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 20, 2015 Dave I always enjoy ALL of your pictures but find myself frustrated that I can only press the "like" button once for pictures like those of the S&C and similar. Certainly 5 star rating from me. Thank you so much for taking the time and trouble to post all of your pics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted August 20, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 20, 2015 (edited) Notice the 110 has FYE which wraps round to include the doors Edited August 20, 2015 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold 96701 Posted August 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 20, 2015 What a sublime photo. Helwith Bridge BR 9F 92076 up goods Dec 66 J714 Just wow..... Many thanks for all of the photos, but........ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted August 20, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 20, 2015 Hi, Dave. Love the S&C photo's. Great scenery and J718 at Settle with an 8F on a down mineral train is a classic steam era railway image with plenty of smoke, steam, and the 8F clearly working hard. All the best, Market65. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Marshall Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 It's the Ribblehead shot for me - love the Covhops. The wet 9F is a great picture! Regards, Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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