Fat Controller Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 More fantastic images, thank you for taking the time to post these everyday. What an odd bit of track work in J6893. It looks like some sort of switched crossing, not a slip of anykind. I wonder why they needed to use this instead of a normal crossing? David Switched diamonds like this one were relatively common; presumably to reduce the number of common crossings that might wear out . They must have been around in the 1950s, as I remember having a fibre-sleepered Wrenn one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold TheSignalEngineer Posted March 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2016 Switched diamonds like this one were relatively common; presumably to reduce the number of common crossings that might wear out . They must have been around in the 1950s, as I remember having a fibre-sleepered Wrenn one. Switch diamonds were used depending on the crossing angle. Anything flatter than 1 in 8 normally had them. I have a picture in a book from c1943 showing the remodelling of Landsown Junction at Cheltenham with at least two sets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 7, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 7, 2016 Hi, Dave. Lovely photos of Petts Wood and St. Mary Cray. So good to see trains, in this case SR EMU's going about their unsung everyday work. There was a switch diamond at Beverley North Junction between the line to Driffield and the line to Market Weighton. I understand it dated from at least the 1940's. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben pez Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Nice touch for modelling to be found in J540 with the white patch on the bridge for the signal. Cheers, David Already done!! Great photos as always dave Cheers Ben 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Barry O Posted March 7, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 7, 2016 Almost expected to see myself in those pictures! so did I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 More fantastic images, thank you for taking the time to post these everyday. David Wot 'e said, Dave. Thanks from me too, I avidly look forward to each new batch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 8, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2016 A trip to Scotland today with some photos from Prestonpans and Cockenzie taken in the 1980s. As so often happens the weather was dull on both visits. Cockenzie Power station 26002 coal 21st Aug 86 C7901 Prestonpans 43071 up ex pass 21st Aug 86 C7904 Prestonpans 26002 down empty coal 21st Aug 86 C7906 Prestonpans 26002 empty coal Cockenzie to Bilston Glen 11th Aug 87 C8939 Prestonpans 26007 down light engine 11th Aug 87 C8940 David 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Great photographs as usual. As a comparison to C7906 here is one I took in May 2005 after the line was realigned to the west of the station. Jim 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 8, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 8, 2016 Hi, Dave. A good selection of photo's from Scotland of Cockenzie and Prestonpans. C8940 of 26007 is a fine portrait of that loco. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffP Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Great photographs as usual. As a comparison to C7906 here is one I took in May 2005 after the line was realigned to the west of the station. Jim Why did they realign? It looks like they introduced a reverse curve? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
60021 Pen-y-Ghent Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) Why did they realign? It looks like they introduced a reverse curve? A quick google search threw up this:Refer to http://www.lner.info/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4333 , specifically post #7. Edited March 8, 2016 by 60021 Pen-y-Ghent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted March 8, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) As a quick aside, was there any rhyme or reason as to which MGR flows used the HAAs with canopies? From the pics above there's a couple of complete rakes with them, but then there's another without. I recall in a book the mention that the canopies were a particularly Scottish thing - did it allow a slightly greater payload or was it more to do with the loaders at particular pits? great pics though, Dave - the Railfreight livery seemed to suit the 26s These MGRs 26s also seemed to punch above their weight, hauling these trains without much fuss. Also just noticed that 002 and 007 have lost their oval buffers and leaf springing, presumably as spares became available they were brought into line with the rest of the 26s to simplify maintenance Edited March 8, 2016 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 As a quick aside, was there any rhyme or reason as to which MGR flows used the HAAs with canopies? From the pics above there's a couple of complete rakes with them, but then there's another without. I recall in a book the mention that the canopies were a particularly Scottish thing - did it allow a slightly greater payload or was it more to do with the loaders at particular pits? They only fitted under the screens at a limited number of pits, so they were confined to pits with purpose built loading hoppers, and to sites where mechanical excavators were used for loading (though the latter knocked seven bells out of them). They gave an increase in capacity from 26 to 32 tonnes; more importantly, perhaps, they reduced the 'blow-off' of dust when running at speed. Scotland did seem to have most of the canopy-fitted wagons in early days; though there was a second wave of canopy fitting in later years, perhaps due to there being more long-distance hauls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 9, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) A few photos of trains crossing Harrogate Stray, south of the station, this afternoon. They were taken in 1965 - 7, some are once again from half frame slides so won't look too sharp. At the time we lived a few minutes walk away. Harrogate Class 108 and 101 Manchester to Harrogate Aug 65 J246 Harrogate B1 61319 Harrogate to Kings X Jan 66 J431 Harrogate LMS Class 5 45371 Harrogate to Kings X Feb 66 J442 Harrogate Class 46 D171 White Rose Kings X to Harrogate April 66 J470 Harrogate Class 110 Manchester Victoria to Harrogate April 67 J875 David Edited March 9, 2016 by DaveF 40 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swindon 123 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Some more nice photos David, but I'm afraid J246 Harrogate Class 104 Manchester to Harrogate Aug 65 isn't a 104. Its a bit of a mongrel with the leading vehicle a 108 DMC with the other 3 cars part of a 4 car Met-Cam 101. Paul J. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 9, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2016 Some more nice photos David, but I'm afraid J246 Harrogate Class 104 Manchester to Harrogate Aug 65 isn't a 104. Its a bit of a mongrel with the leading vehicle a 108 DMC with the other 3 cars part of a 4 car Met-Cam 101. Paul J. Thanks Paul, Now I've looked at the image more carefully it is a bit obvious that I'd got it wrong! David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 9, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2016 Hi, Dave. What really lovely and nostalgic photo's of the railway running through The Stray, Harrogate. In that first photo, I think the class 108 DMCL will be standing in for a, probably, failed class 101 car. The photo of the Black 5 on a train to Kings Cross is very typical of how the winters went back in the '60's. Very cold and very snowy. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted March 9, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 9, 2016 Red numberplate on the loco in J431? I thought that was an LMS thing. And there seems to be something written on the buffer beam. Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted March 9, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted March 9, 2016 Red numberplate on the loco in J431? I thought that was an LMS thing. And there seems to be something written on the buffer beam. Jonathan The bufferbeam word is "York". It seems to have been something that "just happened" in the last days of steam. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Some more nice photos David, but I'm afraid J246 Harrogate Class 104 Manchester to Harrogate Aug 65 isn't a 104. Its a bit of a mongrel with the leading vehicle a 108 DMC with the other 3 cars part of a 4 car Met-Cam 101. Paul J. It also looks like a model scene, well it does to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 On the topic of HAAs, the ones fitted with top canopies were restricted to Scotland with the pits with modified loading screens to take them. The actual payload carried was 32 tons on both versions. The capacity was lower in volume without, but it was found that when loaded with the coal heaped the tons carried came out the same. The tops were fitted to lots of hoppers when they started running Anglo Scottish flows, to reduce blow off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 10, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2016 Some photos from visits made by Dad to Rugby, I think I may have been with him when he took the two with trains in them. The only information I have about these photos is in the captions. Rugby Class 83 E3025 Euston to Liverpool Lime St March 67 J818 Rugby Class 86 E3156 up oil empties Rowley Regis (?) to Thameshaven March 67 J819 Rugby MR viaduct over A426 May 71 J2644 Rugby GCR bridge over A5 May 71 J2645 Clifton Mill LNWR Rugby to Peterborough branch of LNWR April 71 J2647 Rugby Central remains of GCR station May 71 J2649 David 41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted March 10, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted March 10, 2016 Hi, Dave. Excellent photos of Rugby. Sad to see the remains of the former GC line at what was Rugby Central Station. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Marshall Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 Some photos from visits made by Dad to Rugby, I think I may have been with him when he took the two with trains in them. The only information I have about these photos is in the captions. a_Rugby Class 83 E3025 Euston to Liverpool Lime St March 67_J818.jpg Rugby Class 83 E3025 Euston to Liverpool Lime St March 67 J818 a_Rugby Class 86 E3156 up oil empties Rowley regis to Thameshaven March 67_J819.jpg Rugby Class 86 E3156 up oil empties Rowley Regis (?) to Thameshaven March 67 J819 b_Rugby MR viaduct over A426 May 71_J2644.jpg Rugby MR viaduct over A426 May 71 J2644 b_Rugby GCR bridge over A5 May 71_J2645.jpg Rugby GCR bridge over A5 May 71 J2645 e_Clifton_Mill_LNWR Rugby to Peterborough branch of LNWR April 71_J2647.jpg Clifton Mill LNWR Rugby to Peterborough branch of LNWR April 71 J2647 c_Rugby_Central remains of GCR station May 71_J2649.jpg Rugby Central remains of GCR station May 71 J2649 David David, That last picture leaves me very angry at the lack of strategic vision at the time - what a waste! It's easy to rip up the infrastructure, but putting any of it back costs a mint. Sorry for the outburst. Regards, Roy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted March 11, 2016 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2016 During the past few days I've been sorting out some more photos and captioning them - I always wonder why some photos need very little work, others take ages to restore colours etc in Photoshop. Today we make another visit to the Settle and Carlsle, this time between Kirkby Stephen and Culgaith over some twenty years. Kirkby Stephen cottages 22nd Feb 93 C18302 Kirkby Stephen p w trolley 10th April 97 C21766 Appleby BR Class 4MT 80080 Carlisle to Kirkby Stephen 22nd Feb 93 C18289 Culgaith Class 25 up freight Aug 77 J5762 Culgaith signal box Aug 77 J5761 David 42 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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