RMweb Gold DaveF Posted December 17, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted December 17, 2021 5 hours ago, eastwestdivide said: That SOB route via Pfäffikon is a proper switchback - it doesn't get the coverage that some of the other mountain lines seem to get, but after using it as part of a roundabout route to my destination further south, I'd like to get back there one day and stop off for a while. Edit: just noticed the "DR" on the side of the loco in C17369 The SOB is well worth looking at. There are some good views and the stations are worth seeing as well. From the lineside there are good photographic opportunities. When travelling on the line and taking photos from the lineside I've stayed at Goldau (by ArthGoldau station) and Sattel. 1 hour ago, corneliuslundie said: The photos have prompted fond memories of a trip from Zurich to Arth Goldau, up the Rigi and down the other side and then a boat to Lucerne. Jonathan I have very happy memories of the trip from ArthGoldau over the Rigi to Luzern, . Given the opportunity I'd love to revisit Switzerland. David 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium St Enodoc Posted December 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2021 5 hours ago, corneliuslundie said: The photos have prompted fond memories of a trip from Zurich to Arth Goldau, up the Rigi and down the other side and then a boat to Lucerne. Jonathan 3 hours ago, DaveF said: The SOB is well worth looking at. There are some good views and the stations are worth seeing as well. From the lineside there are good photographic opportunities. When travelling on the line and taking photos from the lineside I've stayed at Goldau (by ArthGoldau station) and Sattel. I have very happy memories of the trip from ArthGoldau over the Rigi to Luzern, . Given the opportunity I'd love to revisit Switzerland. David Heartily agree. The Station Hotel at Arth Goldau used to be a very good watering-place (haven't been for nearly 40 years...) with the most astonishing strawberry sundae for dessert. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 18, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 18, 2021 (edited) A few black and white photos around Nottingham for today. Once again they are from the late 40s and early 50s, the dates are approximate in most of them, Dad rarely dated his photos he knew when he took them. Annesley GC O4 63839 up coal c1952 JVol4242 Bagthorpe Junction B1 61151 up ex pass Manchester to Marylebone c1953 JVol1165 Bulwell Common LNER B1 ex pass Manchester to Marylebone 1947 JVol1177 New Basford B1 61169 ex pass Manchester to Marylebone c1952 JVol4117 New Basford GCR B7 pass 1947 JVol1404 David Edited April 7, 2022 by DaveF Spelling! 41 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 On all of today's photos if you visited any of the sites it would be almost inconceivable there was ever a railway there unless you knew. The only one you could get anything like a similar view is the one showing the bridge at Perry Road (Bagthorpe Junction), the bridge deck may still be in place but underfilled, I think there's an old people's home roughly at trackbed level now. I was standing roughly where the Annesley one was taken (I think!) a couple of days ago. The land has been partially filled ramping up to the tunnel, now all there is is grazing horses. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted December 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2021 Real trains. Jonathan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold SHMD Posted December 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2021 There's something odd happening after the first coach, in JVol4117, that I cant quite make out! Kev. (Lovely Phots...) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
great central Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 47 minutes ago, SHMD said: There's something odd happening after the first coach, in JVol4117, that I cant quite make out! Kev. (Lovely Phots...) Looks like an articulated pair with a brake end nearest the camera 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted December 18, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 18, 2021 With a recessed door area I think. And yes, difficult to be certain but there seem to be only three bogies for the two vehicles. Jonathan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 18, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 18, 2021 Good evening, David. That is a simply mouthwatering selection of photo’s from around Nottingham. They have brightened up a dreary December day. Now, in JVol4117 at New Basford, with a clean B1, 61169, on an express passenger train from Manchester to Marylebone, in about 1952, the carriages mentioned previously are a Gresley teak bodied non articulated Composite Corridor carriage, CK, then there is an articulted steel bodied two carriage set, on those three bogies, with the middle bogie being the one the two carriages are articulated together on, then they are followed by a non articulated steel Compsite Corridor carriage, followed by another steel bodied two carriage articulated set. That’s BTK-TK, CK, BTK-TK. These five carriage sets were common on the LNER Southern Section, and were only withdrawn and scrapped with the arrival of the new diesel trains in the later 1950’s. Prior to WWll, the first of these carriages were given the full mock teak effect with the primrose lining out. With warmest regards, Rob. 2 1 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 19, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) A few photos from the Midland Railway Trust at Butterely this morning. Butterley 16440 Aug 83 J8050 Butterley Barclay Stanton No 24 27th May 78 C3856 Butterley MR 673 May 78 J6074 Swanwick Junction 16440 Aug 82 J7720 Swanwick Junction 8F 48151 Ironville to Butterley 11th June 89 C12034 Swanwick Junction MR Kirtley 2-4-0 158A Sunday 8th April 90 C14223 David Edited April 7, 2022 by DaveF 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 19, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) First for this afternoon this year's Christmas card from me. It is also in the "Season's Greetings" thread if it looks familiar. 2021 RM Web Christmas Card Bagthorpe Junction V2 down goods c1952 JVol2055 David Edited April 7, 2022 by DaveF 39 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 19, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 19, 2021 (edited) Now for a few more photos on the line from Newcastle to Hartlepool and beyond. Brockley Whins 142519 Sunderland to Metro Centre March 92 J13052 East Boldon 142019 Sunderland to Metro Centre April 93 J13785 East Boldon 142025 Sunderland to Metro Centre April 93 J13773 East Boldon 156444 Sunderland to Newcastle 26th March 94 C19340 Hartlepool 143011 Middlesbrough to Newcastle April 87 J8824 David Edited April 7, 2022 by DaveF 33 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Merry Christmas Dave, thanks for another year of superb photos. Martyn 1 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew P Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Merry Christmas Dave, and a Happy New Year. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 19, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 19, 2021 Good evening, and Merry Christmas, David. Now the photo’s of the Midland Railway Trust at Butterley are full of fascination, and in J6074, at Butterley, with M.R. 673, in May, 1978, you have a superb portrait of the ‘Midland Spinner’, and what a lovely model she would make. The Newcastle to Hartlepool and beyond photo’s are a delightful set, oozing atmosphere from a time now long gone. In the first photo’ at Brockley Whins, with 142519, on a Sunderland to Metro Centre service, in March, 1992, you can see how careworn the Pacer was by the time of the photo’, and before it would be repainted, it would need wuite a bit of attention to the rust issues, especially on that cab end. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
62613 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 On 18/12/2021 at 19:11, Market65 said: Good evening, David. That is a simply mouthwatering selection of photo’s from around Nottingham. They have brightened up a dreary December day. Now, in JVol4117 at New Basford, with a clean B1, 61169, on an express passenger train from Manchester to Marylebone, in about 1952, the carriages mentioned previously are a Gresley teak bodied non articulated Composite Corridor carriage, CK, then there is an articulted steel bodied two carriage set, on those three bogies, with the middle bogie being the one the two carriages are articulated together on, then they are followed by a non articulated steel Compsite Corridor carriage, followed by another steel bodied two carriage articulated set. That’s BTK-TK, CK, BTK-TK. These five carriage sets were common on the LNER Southern Section, and were only withdrawn and scrapped with the arrival of the new diesel trains in the later 1950’s. Prior to WWll, the first of these carriages were given the full mock teak effect with the primrose lining out. With warmest regards, Rob. I'd say the first carriage is stiil teak; quite possible at the time, of course. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 20, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 20, 2021 (edited) A few more photos taken at Morpeth today. Morpeth 56115 empties 10th April 85 C6800 The train has travelled north from Newcastle on the ECML and is now joining the Blyth and Tyne, probably to Lynemouth Colliery. The ECML is behind the signal box and other building on the right. Morpeth 43157 up 17th Jan 87 C8182 This shows the original NER footbridge which was replaced when the line was electrified. Morpeth 91021 Glasgow C to Kings X 6th April 93 C18404 Morpeth 142065 ecs for train to Newcastle June 93 J13900 Morpeth 43118 up 18th July 93 C19102 David Edited April 7, 2022 by DaveF 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 20, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 20, 2021 Good evening, David. That’s a most impressive set of photo’s of Morpeth. In C8182, with 43157 leading an up HST on the 17th January, 1987, you have captured the extremely cold and snowy conditions perfectly, along with that doomed former NER footbridge. I wonder if there were many other examples with the extra wide span? With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted December 21, 2021 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) Freight trains on the ECML at Ulgham Lane crossing in Northumberland for today. Ulgham Lane crossing 37177 up Alcan empties Fort William to North Blyth June 87 J8995 Ulgham Lane crossing 56119 Butterwell to Blyth Power station Dec 89 J10578 Ulgham Lane crossing 56113 empties Blyth Power station to Butterwell Dec 89 J10580 Ulgham Lane crossing 37506 down empty pipe wagons 12th Oct 91 C16591 Ulgham Lane crossing 37194 and 37351 down coal 13th Feb 93 C18278 David Edited April 7, 2022 by DaveF 36 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 J10578 - that's a lovely shot of 56 119 "giving it some beans". I can hear it from here. Mind you, these days that's a shot to send the environmentalists apoplectic. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted December 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2021 And yet again I am afraid four diesel powered trains under the wires. That is something else which will have to change (though there will be no coal traffic anyway). Jonathan 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted December 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2021 1 hour ago, corneliuslundie said: And yet again I am afraid four diesel powered trains under the wires. That is something else which will have to change (though there will be no coal traffic anyway). No doubting the environmental benefits of what you seek, but the practicalities are complicated. Freight businesses with OLE in their yards and sidings? 60 years ago Southern tried that for key marshalling yards, and designed the locos to take power from third rail and OLE. It worked fine, but the locos were underutilised and the OLE was redundant in less than 20 years. Dual-powered locos, like the Southern's EDLs, make great sense - but are expensive and complex. None of this makes rail-freight more competitive, sadly. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 31A Posted December 21, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 21, 2021 2 hours ago, corneliuslundie said: And yet again I am afraid four diesel powered trains under the wires. That is something else which will have to change (though there will be no coal traffic anyway). Jonathan Some of the trains in those pictures would only have run under the wires for a relatively short distance, which would have been quite a small part of their journey anyway. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mullie Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 I read today that Freightliner haver switched some of their electrically hauled services to diesel because of a 200% price increase on electricity imposed by Network Rail. I bet Boris will keep that quiet! Martyn 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted December 21, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 21, 2021 Good evening, David. That’s a most impressive set of photo’s of Ulgham Lane crossing, on the ECML in Northumberland. Despite the environmental issues, it’s still good to see those diesel hauled trains, and, in particular, 37506, on a down empty pipe wagon train, on the 12th October, 1991, in C16591. It’s amazing that some 37’s still exist on the main network, such a good overall design. With warmest regards, Rob. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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