Sheffield Exchange, Toy trains, music and fun!

[Dagworth]

20 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

were you doing the lights?

Yes, that's one from the Sigma tour :)

 

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[St Enodoc]

5 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Can the combined minds of Stationmaster Mike and Sainty help me with getting the rerailing crane into Halham Fruit and Veg Goods Shed as there seems to be a problem in there.

Nobody hurt in Yorkshire earthquake. Fruit and veg supplies disrupted.

 

You need that piece of equipment we often wished we had in real life - the Great Big Overscale Hand.

[Clive Mortimore]

3 minutes ago, St Enodoc said:

Nobody hurt in Yorkshire earthquake. Fruit and veg supplies disrupted.

 

You need that piece of equipment we often wished we had in real life - the Great Big Overscale Hand.

Wot like the one Diego Maradona was blessed with? 

[5BarVT]

6 minutes ago, St Enodoc said:

You need that piece of equipment we often wished we had in real life - the Great Big Overscale Hand.

I thought that was called a BRUFF.

Paul.

[St Enodoc]

3 minutes ago, 5BarVT said:

I thought that was called a BRUFF.

Paul.

We got ours at Holbeck in 1986 IIRC. Brilliant piece of kit.

[Clive Mortimore]

1 hour ago, 5BarVT said:

I thought that was called a BRUFF.

Paul.

Ah but back in the early sixties there weren't any BRUFFs. The railways had these things.

An Ex LMS Cowans Sheldon 30 ton 4-6-0 steam crane. See I can finish things and paint them.

[The Stationmaster]

46 minutes ago, Clive Mortimore said:

Ah but back in the early sixties there weren't any BRUFFs. The railways had these things.

An Ex LMS Cowans Sheldon 30 ton 4-6-0 steam crane. See I can finish things and paint them.

Those cranes were very expensive things to use for simple rerailing jobs - just get the vans out and once they had that MfD hydraulic jack gear a good gang could rerail any sort of short wheelbase wagon in the twinkling of an eye or two.  You could also do a lot with a few old fishplates and some timber packing plus the odd smallish bit of steel sheet if you could get hold of some (very handy having a local C&W works, the stuff they used to repair steel wagon bodiess was just right).  

 

But of course us operating dept folk weren't allowed to do anything like that so we had to keep our little stock of  helpful bits and pieces out of sight unless the proper breakdown gang asked us to deal with something.

 

Mind you the NCB blokes were the ones to see pn simple jobs - I once watched two blokes use a bull winch to re-rail 4 loaded 16 tonners although they were only off the road on one side where they been shoved together going into the trailing end of a point (a common happening on double ended sidings).  The Somerset quarries could also do a pretty neat re-railing job using a 50 ton bucket loader.

[Clive Mortimore]

Oooooo........that is rather nice.

 

[woodenhead]

Here's the NCB rerailing a mineral at Astley Colliery

 

[Clive Mortimore]

11 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

Those cranes were very expensive things to use for simple rerailing jobs - just get the vans out and once they had that MfD hydraulic jack gear a good gang could rerail any sort of short wheelbase wagon in the twinkling of an eye or two.  You could also do a lot with a few old fishplates and some timber packing plus the odd smallish bit of steel sheet if you could get hold of some (very handy having a local C&W works, the stuff they used to repair steel wagon bodiess was just right).  

 

But of course us operating dept folk weren't allowed to do anything like that so we had to keep our little stock of  helpful bits and pieces out of sight unless the proper breakdown gang asked us to deal with something.

 

Mind you the NCB blokes were the ones to see pn simple jobs - I once watched two blokes use a bull winch to re-rail 4 loaded 16 tonners although they were only off the road on one side where they been shoved together going into the trailing end of a point (a common happening on double ended sidings).  The Somerset quarries could also do a pretty neat re-railing job using a 50 ton bucket loader.

The vans you say.

 

 

[Clive Mortimore]

4 hours ago, woodenhead said:

Here's the NCB rerailing a mineral at Astley Colliery

 

Anyone checked its back to backs?

[TheSignalEngineer]

14 hours ago, The Stationmaster said:

You could also do a lot with a few old fishplates and some timber packing plus the odd smallish bit of steel sheet if you could get hold of some

In the 1960s I used to go to two yards with signalling maintenance. They both had a set of iron ramps which went over the rail. Hook a chain to the wagon and the 08 and it would be back on in a couple of minutes. 

[The Stationmaster]

7 hours ago, woodenhead said:

Here's the NCB rerailing a mineral at Astley Colliery

 

Bl**dy horrible things those ramps and lots of older, more experienced, folk on the Western reckoned they were more trouble than they were worth with an inclination to break chairs unless you were lucky when positioning them .  Charlie Spencer, the former Yard Master at Reading West Jcn Yard was known as 'Spraggy' because he hated calling out the vans and invariably used spraggs and old fishplates for re-railing.  Lots of yards kept various bits of timber packing somewhere handy as well as a collection of old fishplates for their d-i-y re-railing and whenever possible such events never got to the ears of management as they were quick 'square ups' with no more said.

 

Fishplates were also useful for extending couplings but you had to take a lot of care when doing it - as i found out one night at llandarcy whena slightly dim Shunter didn't do what I told him to after using a fishplate to extend a coupling.  Fortunately the wagon landed no more than an inch or so from where it had originally landed when first derailed so the gang got it back on the road a lot more quickly than they had the first time - practice always helps.   And I made sure with the fishplate the second time so it didn't runaway for a hat trick.

[Clive Mortimore]

I recently won in an action 9 Bachmann chassis. A J72, a pannier, a manor(?), a Nelson, a V1/V3, 4 Royal Scot/Patriot/Jubilee and a B1. The main reason for biding on these was the B1 chassis as I have a poorly one and the V1 and Jubilee ones would be handy as spares. Well things got the better of me and I spotted this one's body under £20, another addition to the growing numbers of ex LMS express locos. Needs to be painted green one day.

 

All that Ducks fault, if he hadn't have shown me the action site.

 

[Peter Kazmierczak]

Not taking the mick, Clive, but your description of Ebay being an "action" site made me smile. 😆
 

[Tim Dubya]

20 minutes ago, Peter Kazmierczak said:

Not taking the mick, Clive, but your description of Ebay being an "action" site made me smile. 😆
 

 

I caught him on Only Flans the other day too 😜

[John Tomlinson]

12 hours ago, Clive Mortimore said:

I recently won in an action 9 Bachmann chassis. A J72, a pannier, a manor(?), a Nelson, a V1/V3, 4 Royal Scot/Patriot/Jubilee and a B1. The main reason for biding on these was the B1 chassis as I have a poorly one and the V1 and Jubilee ones would be handy as spares. Well things got the better of me and I spotted this one's body under £20, another addition to the growing numbers of ex LMS express locos. Needs to be painted green one day.

 

All that Ducks fault, if he hadn't have shown me the action site.

 

 

 

That final LMS livery of lined black I think looks stunning.

 

Someone posted somewhere on here a "Duke of Gloucester" that they'd painted and lined out that way, no doubt lost now, looked amazing.

 

You might keep the Scot this way for special work, as preserved, especially if you've lots of other green ones. Just a thought.

 

John.

[richard i]

1 hour ago, Tim Dubya said:

 

I caught him on Only Flans the other day too 😜

That is the site for the upper crust of society.

[Clive Mortimore]

These kids are really good, they are Ukrainian. This song comes from before the war started. Most are now refugees in Germany and luckily together and still putting out great tunes. 

Slava Ukraini

[Graham T]

I like that.  Makes me wish I could understand Ukrainian!  Where do you find this stuff Clive?

 

[John Tomlinson]

1 hour ago, Graham T said:

I like that.  Makes me wish I could understand Ukrainian!  Where do you find this stuff Clive?

 

 

Well the title is just, letter for letter,  "psyckhodelika".

 

John.

[eastwestdivide]

I can transliterate the Cyrillic title at least = psychodelika

 

Edit - what he said at the same time!

Edited December 1, 2022 by eastwestdivide

[Clive Mortimore]

1 hour ago, Graham T said:

I like that.  Makes me wish I could understand Ukrainian!  Where do you find this stuff Clive?

 

Hi Graham

 

It finds me, You tube keeps suggesting new music to me.

 

A new song from Mollie and Orláith,

 

[Graham T]

I tend to use Spotify more, seems I need to use youtube more often, and listen to the suggestions!

 

[Tim Dubya]

2 hours ago, John Tomlinson said:

"psyckhodelika"

 

I had some of that once but me and my pixie mates seem to have got away with it.