RMweb Premium Northroader Posted December 22, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 22, 2016 You could start by using a pencil lightly with the stencil, then going over the lettering using a mapping/ draughtsman's pen. I find at this stage there's a big need to get the paint consistency right, not too runny, not too gloopy, which always seems necessary with Matt white. Don't stop there, next very light retouching with background colour then white as needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) MERRY CHRIS... humbug after running the pencil around inside the stencils, and with the H painted over numbering (1) by Sam, on Flickr at this point I had painted on both sides of the previous wagons and one side of the G&SWR and GWR numbering (6) by Sam, on Flickr and after deciding the numbers. numbering (5) by Sam, on Flickr The list Reads as follows: 10- bogie carriage 11- 4 wheel carraige 12- (spaces empty for more carriages) 13- 14- 15- Brake van 16- Early brake van 17- (spaces empty for another brake van 2 cattle vans) 18- 19- 20- Dumb buffer wagon 21- (spaces empty for more dumb buffer wagons) 22- 23- 24- dumb buffer flat 25- MR 3 plank 26- MR 3 plank 27- freelance van 28- MR van 29- MR van 30- RCH 6 plank 31- G&SWR 32- G&SWR 33- GWR The tank and the 3 skytrex wagons arent being numbered as they will be painted up as fictitious private owners Edited December 25, 2016 by sir douglas 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 25, 2016 Author Share Posted December 25, 2016 i finally got some enthusiasm for the Planet gearbox Here the gearbox frames cut out of te same nickel sheet as my previous gearboxes, the bearing hole ave yet to be drilled out Planet (109) by Sam, on Flickr I forgot that in the box for the aborted single fairlie is a decent sized motor, using this will do instead of making 2 gearboxes with the smaller motors Planet (110) by Sam, on Flickr After drilling out, the frames were bolted together to put in the bearings, to make sure they were in the right position i used 2 lengths of 1/8th brass rod and checked they were parallel before running some sugerglue around the bearing flange Planet (112) by Sam, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 26, 2016 Author Share Posted December 26, 2016 (edited) gearbox frames went together this morning, the same as usual. the gearbox stretchers are 5mm square styrene the idler gear shaft is 1/8th brass rod, and the shaft spacer is mild steel tube, the motor is screwed onto a nickel plate from the inside and that plate screws onto the styrene stretchers Planet (113) by Sam, on Flickr Planet (114) by Sam, on Flickr video of the gearbox https://flic.kr/p/QwsFy9 The only way for it to fit in th body is at an angle in the cab and the gearbox sits in the back of the bonnet Planet (116) by Sam, on Flickr Planet (117) by Sam, on Flickr Edited December 26, 2016 by sir douglas 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 gearbox frames went together this morning, the same as usual. the gearbox stretchers are 5mm square styrene the idler gear shaft is 1/8th brass rod, and the shaft spacer is mild steel tube, the motor is screwed onto a nickel plate from the inside and that plate screws onto the styrene stretchers Planet (113) by Sam, on Flickr Planet (114) by Sam, on Flickr video of the gearbox https://flic.kr/p/QwsFy9 The only way for it to fit in th body is at an angle in the cab and the gearbox sits in the back of the bonnet Planet (116) by Sam, on Flickr Planet (117) by Sam, on Flickr Your work is going to make a great addition to the Wakefield 2017 Show 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
5050 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) Your work is going to make a great addition to the Wakefield 2017 Show And when is that going to be Steve? Now't like a bit of advance publicity Love the gearbox. Why am I buying them when I could do that myself!!? Edited December 27, 2016 by 5050 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enginelane Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 And when is that going to be Steve? Now't like a bit of advance publicity Love the gearbox. Why am I buying them when I could do that myself!!? Well now you have asked its 17/18/19 th Nov Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 pickups on and it runs, i cant give you a video yet of it running up & down my test track as the body is upside down with yet superglue and lead shot in the bonnet Planet (118) by Sam, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tove Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I like the ingenuity and 'can do' attitude that you have Sam. You really are building some nice item`s,great stuff. Brian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted December 27, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 27, 2016 I hope it runs as well as it looks. That gear box is ingenious. Nicer than the Planet conversion I did a few years ago. Probably too late to get drive onto both axles via a Delrin chain & cogs or even rubber bands between rollers on each axle. The last gauge 0 loco I built [battery eletric] also is powered on one axle so limited to about three wagons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 tested last night with the body on, it runs fine on its own but cant pull more than 1 wagon, but it can do more if i sit a metal block on the cab, so i put additional weight in the cab but still needed the block for traction when tested again, so the main problem is it being 2 wheel drive instead of 4 because its now heavier than the kitson but that can do 7 wagons Its going at top speed on the return journey, and sorry for it being blurry https://flic.kr/p/QAFpcS what if i put in a gear train to connect the front axle using the second gear with screw boss and some little gears from the squires pack to connect to the existing gear on the rear axle Planet (120) by Sam, on Flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted December 28, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 28, 2016 Yes its probably the 2-wheel drive which limits the haulage. Worth experimenting with a gear train or the other options I mentioned. You've got the gears so give it a go! Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 28, 2016 Author Share Posted December 28, 2016 just a side note out of the 3 skyrex wagons, ive decided on 2 of the ficticous private owner names first one is D.Fortesque of Gallowmere on a green background, ive already started painting the wagon this morning, the colour i picked out is NATO green which is similar to olive i bought years back for a unimog kit. the name comes from an old game called "Medievil" on the Playstation 1 the main character is sir Daniel Fortesque and the land the story takes place in is called Gallowmere, it was one of the first games i played when i was little The second wagon is Halfmoon co operative, Halfmoon being the town that the railway serves. HLR stands for Halfmoon light railway. Halfmoon is the name of a man made oxbow lake near where i grew up. it was a bend in the river that was cut of by a railway embankment 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 the gear train is together and running, now the Planet can do 3 wagons instead of 1, so now ill start adding weight until it can pull 5 all the parts ready to assemble Planet (121) by Sam, on Flickr and after assembly Planet (122) by Sam, on Flickr Planet (123) by Sam, on Flickr but i forgot the cut out to go around the frame stretcher, so it was taken apart to cut them out Planet (124) by Sam, on Flickr The gear train in position Planet (125) by Sam, on Flickr Planet (126) by Sam, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 30, 2016 Author Share Posted December 30, 2016 (edited) a bit more lead shot glued into the bonnet and it can now pull 5 wagons and 6 with a bit of wheel slip, so im happy with it for now. next i can move onto the finishing details like the cab interior and tidying the paintwork for curiosity i wondered what the gear ratio is, so i turned the worm gear until it gave a quarter turn on the wheel, it took 35 rotations so it would take about 140 motor rotations for one wheel rotation Edited December 30, 2016 by sir douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted December 31, 2016 Author Share Posted December 31, 2016 2 of the Skytrex wagons have now been repainted in readinees for the lettering wagon skytrex (12) by Sam, on Flickr The horn has glued in to the Planet and in the cab has been painted Planet (127) by Sam, on Flickr 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted January 1, 2017 Author Share Posted January 1, 2017 cab steps next, the bracket under the cab doors were in the way of the top steps so they were cut back. for the bottom steps, i was thinking that styrene brackets would easily break so i soldered up brass L brackets by cutting down rejected connecting rods Planet (129) by Sam, on Flickr top step Planet (128) by Sam, on Flickr brackets glued in Planet (130) by Sam, on Flickr bottom step glued onto the bracket Planet (131) by Sam, on Flickr painted, and brass wire used for the sand pipes also glued in and painted Planet (132) by Sam, on Flickr i was thinking about what the top speed is so looked around and found this http://www.entwinesolutions.co.uk/scalespeed/ made by RMwebber Knapper 50cm in 4.8 seconds comes out as a scale speed of 10mph 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share Posted January 2, 2017 Today sare the door handles 2mm wide strips of brass with brass wire soldered into drilled holes. i made 6 handles as i need 2 for the Planet but i also need 4 for the early brake van so i did both together handles (1) by Sam, on Flickr and after being cut and filed down 6 handles done handles (3) by Sam, on Flickr handles glued in Planet (133) by Sam, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted January 3, 2017 Author Share Posted January 3, 2017 prnted out the wagon lettering this morning, cut out the Fortesque one and got one side of the wagon painted, was planning on doing the green wagon but picked u the crimson without thinking and only realised after painting, it doesnt matter though. on the right is the stencil for the other wagon yet to be cut out and also the stencil for the tank wagon "Lagentium" is the name of the roman fort now under Castleford wagon skytrex fortesque by Sam, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 so while back i posted a drawing of Kynite i found online, well last night i had a go at making a Sketchup model of the body only to find many inaccuracies with the drawing for example 3 measurements that should be the same as in the cab side height on the front, back and side elevations but arent the same, the cab side is taller on the front elevations than the side and end, the loco length isnt quite the same between the side and top elevations. the distance between buffers are right on the ends and top elevations but the buffer height is 6" low. whats up with these curves on the smokebox and the flat sides, it should be more like my version on the right back to the buffers, the drawing shows them at the same height as the footplate (about 2' 10") bu they are higher in the photos an at the same height as the carraige buffers which we know is correct height because it is ex mainline (LTSR) but the buffer beam on the drawing isnt quite tall enough to have the buffers at the correct height Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 What i forgot to add to that, Im going to try and find out as much as i can on Kynite, any surviving material such as works drawing or its entry in the order book will most likely either be at Armley mills or Satfold Barn, ive emailed Armley mills to ask about access to their archives and still awaiting reply but if its at Statfold barn then tough because i cant get there so i would have to work with the rubbish drawing ive got Anyway, both sides of the Fortesque wagon have now been painted and ive cut out the stencils for the Co operative and the Lagentium tank. The planet now has a roof i know the wagon looks a bit skewed but its just not sat straight on the track wagon skytrex fortesque (2) by Sam, on Flickr lettering by Sam, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted January 4, 2017 Author Share Posted January 4, 2017 one side of the Halfmoon and the Lagentium now painted hand painted PO liveries by Sam, on Flickr 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share Posted January 7, 2017 I took the Planet and some wagons down to club last night. now i know that it ca pull at least 6 wagons 6-1-2017 (1) by Sam, on Flickr 6-1-2017 (2) by Sam, on Flickr video of above train https://flic.kr/p/QPgL22 Planet slow running light engine https://flic.kr/p/QLzAQ9 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted January 7, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2017 Great to see the Planet hauling a train of your wagons - you won't be needing a sound chip in that one! Like the brake van too. Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted January 8, 2017 Author Share Posted January 8, 2017 just tried some weathering on the Planet and two lettered wagons. it was done with a slightly watered down Black acrylic. i brand ive come to like because of the matt finish, Crawford & Black from the the Works. i brushed it on and then dabbed it with a tissue to even it out and remove the brush strokes. im not going to put on any rust as if im setting my layout in the 50's, the Planet will be brand new, so it will look hard worked but not neglected weathering (1) by Sam, on Flickr weathering (2) by Sam, on Flickr weathering (3) by Sam, on Flickr 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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