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You could start by using a pencil lightly with the stencil, then going over the lettering using a mapping/ draughtsman's pen. I find at this stage there's a big need to get the paint consistency right, not too runny, not too gloopy, which always seems necessary with Matt white. Don't stop there, next very light retouching with background colour then white as needed.

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MERRY CHRIS...   humbug

 

after running the pencil around inside the stencils, and with the H painted over

31054242923_07e0b2e4d9_z.jpgnumbering (1) by Sam, on Flickr

 

at this point I had painted on both sides of the previous wagons and one side of the G&SWR and GWR

31490856880_8ecca77ff4_z.jpgnumbering (6) by Sam, on Flickr

 

and after deciding the numbers.

31863815435_6a9fa2a58c_z.jpgnumbering (5) by Sam, on Flickr

 

The list Reads as follows:

 

10- bogie carriage

11- 4 wheel carraige

12- (spaces empty for more carriages)

13-

14-

15- Brake van

16- Early brake van

17- (spaces empty for another brake van 2 cattle vans)

18-

19-

20- Dumb buffer wagon

21- (spaces empty for more dumb buffer wagons)

22-

23-

24- dumb buffer flat

25- MR 3 plank

26- MR 3 plank

27- freelance van

28- MR van

29- MR van

30- RCH 6 plank

31- G&SWR

32- G&SWR

33- GWR

 

The tank and the 3 skytrex wagons arent being numbered as they will be painted up as fictitious private owners

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i finally got some enthusiasm for the Planet gearbox

 

Here the gearbox frames cut out of te same nickel sheet as my previous gearboxes, the bearing hole ave yet to be drilled out

31747148161_42749e80d2_z.jpgPlanet (109) by Sam, on Flickr

 

I forgot that in the box for the aborted single fairlie is a decent sized motor, using this will do instead of making 2 gearboxes with the smaller motors

31826138986_e6e35e8e44_z.jpgPlanet (110) by Sam, on Flickr

 

After drilling out, the frames were bolted together to put in the bearings, to make sure they were in the right position i used 2 lengths of 1/8th brass rod and checked they were parallel before running some sugerglue around the bearing flange

31826140376_9e84b85701_z.jpgPlanet (112) by Sam, on Flickr

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gearbox frames went together this morning, the same as usual. the gearbox stretchers are 5mm square styrene the idler gear shaft is 1/8th brass rod, and the shaft spacer is mild steel tube, the motor is screwed onto a nickel plate from the inside and that plate screws onto the styrene stretchers

31739586272_a2a730c470_z.jpgPlanet (113) by Sam, on Flickr

31739661652_6d3bb03754_z.jpgPlanet (114) by Sam, on Flickr

 

video of the gearbox

https://flic.kr/p/QwsFy9

 

The only way for it to fit in th body is at an angle in the cab and the gearbox sits in the back of the bonnet

31077866243_41509179dd_z.jpgPlanet (116) by Sam, on Flickr

31077869523_76ab320194_z.jpgPlanet (117) by Sam, on Flickr

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gearbox frames went together this morning, the same as usual. the gearbox stretchers are 5mm square styrene the idler gear shaft is 1/8th brass rod, and the shaft spacer is mild steel tube, the motor is screwed onto a nickel plate from the inside and that plate screws onto the styrene stretchers

31739586272_a2a730c470_z.jpgPlanet (113) by Sam, on Flickr

31739661652_6d3bb03754_z.jpgPlanet (114) by Sam, on Flickr

 

video of the gearbox

https://flic.kr/p/QwsFy9

 

The only way for it to fit in th body is at an angle in the cab and the gearbox sits in the back of the bonnet

31077866243_41509179dd_z.jpgPlanet (116) by Sam, on Flickr

31077869523_76ab320194_z.jpg

 

Planet (117) by Sam, on Flickr

Your work is going to make a great addition to the Wakefield 2017 Show

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Your work is going to make a great addition to the Wakefield 2017 Show

And when is that going to be Steve?

 

Now't like a bit of advance publicity :whistle:

 

Love the gearbox.  Why am I buying them when I could do that myself!!?

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I hope it runs as well as it looks. That gear box is ingenious. Nicer than the Planet conversion I did a few years ago. Probably too late to get drive onto both axles via a Delrin chain & cogs or even rubber bands between rollers on each axle. The last gauge 0 loco I built [battery eletric] also is powered on one axle so limited to about three wagons.

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tested last night with the body on, it runs fine on its own but cant pull more than 1 wagon, but it can do more if i sit a metal block on the cab, so i put additional weight in the cab but still needed the block for traction when tested again, so the main problem is it being 2 wheel drive instead of 4 because its now heavier than the kitson but that can do 7 wagons

 

Its going at top speed on the return journey, and sorry for it being blurry

https://flic.kr/p/QAFpcS

 

what if i put in a gear train to connect the front axle using the second gear with screw boss and some little gears from the squires pack to connect to the existing gear on the rear axle

31094801344_f9737fe7f4_z.jpgPlanet (120) by Sam, on Flickr

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Yes its probably the 2-wheel drive which limits the haulage. Worth experimenting with a gear train or the other options I mentioned. You've got the gears so give it a go!

 

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just a side note

 

out of the 3 skyrex wagons, ive decided on 2 of the ficticous private owner names

 

first one is D.Fortesque of Gallowmere on a green background, ive already started painting the wagon this morning, the colour i picked out is NATO green which is similar to olive i bought years back for a unimog kit. the name comes from an old game called "Medievil" on the Playstation 1 the main character is sir Daniel Fortesque and the land the story takes place in is called Gallowmere, it was one of the first games i played when i was little

 

The second wagon is Halfmoon co operative, Halfmoon being the town that the railway serves. HLR stands for Halfmoon light railway. Halfmoon is the name of a man made oxbow lake near where i grew up. it was a bend in the river that was cut of by a railway embankment

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the gear train is together and running, now the Planet can do 3 wagons instead of 1, so now ill start adding weight until it can pull 5

 

all the parts ready to assemble

31862207641_8fbc5d8695_z.jpgPlanet (121) by Sam, on Flickr

 

and after assembly

31978840285_f3af3ccef9_z.jpgPlanet (122) by Sam, on Flickr

31862211731_ee7ca41dc6_z.jpgPlanet (123) by Sam, on Flickr

 

but i forgot the cut out to go around the frame stretcher, so it was taken apart to cut them out

31941810356_f686bf00c3_z.jpgPlanet (124) by Sam, on Flickr

 

The gear train in position

31605301220_7d98b94328_z.jpgPlanet (125) by Sam, on Flickr

31978852225_767c85ec01_z.jpgPlanet (126) by Sam, on Flickr

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a bit more lead shot glued into the bonnet and it can now pull 5 wagons and 6 with a bit of wheel slip, so im happy with it for now. next i can move  onto the finishing details like the cab interior and tidying the paintwork

 

for curiosity i wondered what the gear ratio is, so i turned the worm gear until it gave a quarter turn on the wheel, it took 35 rotations so it would take about 140 motor rotations for one wheel rotation 

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cab steps next, the bracket under the cab doors were in the way of the top steps so they were cut back. for the bottom steps, i was thinking that styrene brackets would easily break so i soldered up brass L brackets by cutting down rejected connecting rods

32027171465_d3024168aa_z.jpgPlanet (129) by Sam, on Flickr

 

top step

31652603390_f9caf12c78_z.jpgPlanet (128) by Sam, on Flickr

 

brackets glued in

31988721156_c84b9d1a11_z.jpgPlanet (130) by Sam, on Flickr

 

bottom step glued onto the bracket

31217509383_894ee180ef_z.jpgPlanet (131) by Sam, on Flickr

 

painted, and brass wire used for the sand pipes also glued in and painted

31652629920_7205635462_z.jpgPlanet (132) by Sam, on Flickr

 

i was thinking about what the top speed is so looked around and found this http://www.entwinesolutions.co.uk/scalespeed/ made by RMwebber Knapper

 

50cm in 4.8 seconds comes out as  a scale speed of 10mph

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Today sare the door handles

 

2mm wide strips of brass with brass wire soldered into drilled holes. i made 6 handles as i need 2 for the Planet but i also need 4 for the early brake van so i did both together

31240083423_c336b75d86_z.jpghandles (1) by Sam, on Flickr

 

and after being cut and filed down 6 handles done

31675119690_d80ef7d911_z.jpghandles (3) by Sam, on Flickr

 

handles glued in

31240089833_c054ee9e32_z.jpgPlanet (133) by Sam, on Flickr

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prnted out the wagon lettering this morning, cut out the Fortesque one and got one side of the wagon painted, was planning on doing the green wagon but picked u  the crimson without thinking and only realised after painting, it doesnt matter though. on the right is the stencil for the other wagon yet to be cut out and also the stencil for the tank wagon "Lagentium" is the name of the roman fort now under Castleford

32036226866_55e146ff59_z.jpgwagon skytrex fortesque by Sam, on Flickr

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so while back i posted a drawing of Kynite i found online, well last night i had a go at making a Sketchup model of the body only to find many inaccuracies with the drawing for example 3 measurements that should be the same as in the cab side height on the front, back and side elevations but arent the same, the cab side is taller on the front elevations than the side and end, the loco length isnt quite the same between the side and top elevations. the distance between buffers are right on the ends and top elevations but the buffer height is 6" low.

 

whats up with these curves on the smokebox and the flat sides, it should be more like my version on the right

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back to the buffers, the drawing shows them at the same height as the footplate (about 2' 10") bu they are higher in the photos an at the same height as the carraige buffers which we know is correct height because it is ex mainline (LTSR) but the buffer beam on the drawing isnt quite tall enough to have the buffers at the correct height

post-9948-0-81842400-1483522155.jpg

 

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What i forgot to add to that, Im going to try and find out as much as i can on Kynite, any surviving material such as works drawing or its entry in the order book will most likely either be at Armley mills or Satfold Barn, ive emailed Armley mills to ask about access to their archives and still awaiting reply but if its at Statfold barn then tough because i cant get there so i would have to work with the rubbish drawing ive got

 

Anyway, both sides of the Fortesque wagon have now been painted and ive cut out the stencils for the Co operative and the Lagentium tank. The planet now has a roof

 

i know the wagon looks a bit skewed but its just not sat straight on the track

32059556476_cb47d1813c_z.jpgwagon skytrex fortesque (2) by Sam, on Flickr

32098614565_46b26566b3_z.jpglettering by Sam, on Flickr

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Great to see the Planet hauling a train of your wagons - you  won't be needing a sound chip in that one! Like the brake van too.

 

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just tried some weathering on the Planet and two lettered wagons. it was done with a slightly watered down Black acrylic. i brand ive come to like because of the matt finish, Crawford & Black from the the Works. i brushed it on and then dabbed it with a tissue to even it out and remove the brush strokes. im not going to put on any rust as if im setting my layout in the 50's, the Planet will be brand new, so it will look hard worked but not neglected

32144737086_4c2dc6e7a6_z.jpgweathering (1) by Sam, on Flickr

32182731445_93ce15c1ef_z.jpgweathering (2) by Sam, on Flickr

31807838670_7fa802b1f8_z.jpgweathering (3) by Sam, on Flickr

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