sir douglas Posted September 29, 2016 Author Share Posted September 29, 2016 so ive now got a running 0-4-0 chassis and running through my options in my head Petrol - Ruston 48DS - Hibberd http://www.elrdiesel.info/fleetphotos/planet3438_2013-05-19-burycc-as1.jpg http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/uploads/monthly_01_2011/post-1639-0-57030800-1295552846_thumb.jpg - Avonside http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/File:Im1930v149-p5b.jpg theres also steam options like a sentinel or an ex tramway engine i could also put MW pattern faces on the wheels to make a MW 0-4-0 like class F or H. theres no concern for quatering this time as the wheels are kept in line by the lima gear train http://www.transportarchive.org.uk/aimages/L1059.jpg http://www.brunell.com/uploads/images_products/148.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold NeilHB Posted September 29, 2016 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 29, 2016 My vote would be for the Avonside - it's a weird looking machine! Well that or the tramway engine (but I do love trams!) - how about something like this? https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3867/14719904121_8b00d731c1_b.jpg Now preserved (in the loosest possible sense of the word) at Crich Tramway Museum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted September 30, 2016 Author Share Posted September 30, 2016 more options if i add a jackshaft i could do Armstrong & Whitworth, Baguley or a Fowler. A&W ceylon government rly Baguley 680 - 1916 at statfold barn Baguley 3027 "Bass No 5", no jack shaft but i really like the style of it if i go for the Fowler i'd go for the centre cab type to be different to all the ixion's out there JF 22878 - 1939 RAF st athans its times like this that my years of collecting pics off the internet pays off because ive so much to choose from 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted October 1, 2016 Author Share Posted October 1, 2016 as said before about putting the crate onto a wagon other that the flat. i chose one of the MR 3 planks wagon MR 3 plank (7) by Sam, on Flickr Also got the other one out and stuck in some timber wagon MR 3 plank (6) by Sam, on Flickr and another thing is finding out how how to prototypically tie down the loads, ive gathered that the ropes are commonly tied round the buffer stocks but with what knots the body of the brake van has now had 2 coats of grey, though i still cant decide on what lacth i want to put on the sliding doors brake van (19) by Sam, on Flickr brake van (20) by Sam, on Flickr 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 more options if i add a jackshaft i could do Armstrong & Whitworth, Baguley or a Fowler. A&W ceylon government rly AW 1934 ceylon gov 500 (2).jpg Baguley 680 - 1916 at statfold barn baguley 680 - 1916.jpg Baguley 3027 "Bass No 5", no jack shaft but i really like the style of it baguley 3027 'Bass No5'.jpg if i go for the Fowler i'd go for the centre cab type to be different to all the ixion's out there JF 22878 - 1939 RAF st athans JF 22878 - 1939 RAF st athans.JPG its times like this that my years of collecting pics off the internet pays off because ive so much to choose from Here is my Ixion Fowler conversion. It is loosely based on the Fowlers at RAF Stafford and the wartime Bridgend Royal Ordnance Factory. I must fix the wonky buffer. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted October 1, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 1, 2016 I wondered where the Baguley we called 'Jacob' had ended up - I used to clean its brass at Dinting when I was a youth! Chris, do you have a drawing you would share for the 'cabover' Fowler? I have acquired a second Fowler loco and its eventual destiny is likely to be as a WD loco rather than 'GWR No 1'. The LMS also ordered a clutch of them [ED2-6] dating from 1948 which appear to be the same design Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 more wagon loads the dumb buffer, a polystyrene block covered in pva and gravel wagon 1 (19) by Sam, on Flickr back when i bought the 3 skytrex wagons, they came with plastic coal loads which i put away for future use, now that im thinking about loading my wagons i got them out. they have been coated i pva and thenn actual, the sides needed sanding as they were a tight fit. As was wagon skytrex (8) by Sam, on Flickr after wagon skytrex (10) by Sam, on Flickr wagon skytrex (11) by Sam, on Flickr 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
81A Oldoak Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 I wondered where the Baguley we called 'Jacob' had ended up - I used to clean its brass at Dinting when I was a youth! Chris, do you have a drawing you would share for the 'cabover' Fowler? I have acquired a second Fowler loco and its eventual destiny is likely to be as a WD loco rather than 'GWR No 1'. The LMS also ordered a clutch of them [ED2-6] dating from 1948 which appear to be the same design Dava Dava, I hope you will not be appalled to read that I didn't have any drawings for my Fowler centre-cab conversion. It was all done by estimating from the prototype photographs and the bodger's principle of "if it looks right, it is right". You can read the full story on a speparate forum on the RMWeb here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/110326-ixion-fowler-diesel-conversion-bodgers-away/ Regards, Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted October 2, 2016 Author Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) not working from plans means that you have something unique and interesting and id say it is quite a complement to be asked for any plans since it looks just right so there was an assumption that it was built from plans Edited October 2, 2016 by sir douglas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted October 2, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 2, 2016 Dava, I hope you will not be appalled to read that I didn't have any drawings for my Fowler centre-cab conversion. It was all done by estimating from the prototype photographs and the bodger's principle of "if it looks right, it is right". You can read the full story on a speparate forum on the RMWeb here: http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/110326-ixion-fowler-diesel-conversion-bodgers-away/ Regards, Chris Thanks Chris, interesting to look back over your Fowler conversion. I've built more locos than I'd like to admit from basic dimensions and photos, two so far featured in G0G Gazette! This design looks identical to the LMS ED locos which I have photos of [remaindered copy of Ian Allan book on Departmental locos] , so should not be a problem. Just need to fabricate the rear bonnet section as I only have 1 spare Fowler body! Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I think the Baguley Bass No.5 would best suit the chassis that you have with its spoked wheels and a relatively long wheelbase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 ive decided on a planet since its quite plain and it will be easy to do http://www.lavender-line.co.uk/Locomotives_stock/images/planet-1.jpg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJon30 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Hi good choice. Here are some other pictures that may be of use? Rgds Andrew 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted October 4, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 4, 2016 Agreed! Those Planets are great, individual & not hard to do. My first SG one was an Atlas 6->4 wheel conversion, photos in my gallery http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/gallery/album/2027-small-7mm-locos/ Martin Hartley bought the model. Not that accurate if I say so now. There is a good plan here: http://www.woodburymodels.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Graphic1.bmp Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJon30 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Hello Dava. Yes I liked your conversion of the Atlas shunter - there is one lurking around in my "to do" box! Rgds Andrew 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Dava - Not sure if I told you about what I did to that shunter of yours. I added some brass handrails, a number plate and I also added some extra lead under the front bonnet because it had a bit of a tendency to do wheelies. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted October 5, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 5, 2016 Dava - Not sure if I told you about what I did to that shunter of yours. I added some brass handrails, a number plate and I also added some extra lead under the front bonnet because it had a bit of a tendency to do wheelies. Photo please, Martin! That loco was a UK-Australia export. My collection includes a number of locos which went from the UK to Canada and back, and the Sentinel railcar 'Diligence' which has travelled UK - Australia and return before its return trip to Canada, and bears the marks of a hard life. I kind of like the experience this brings the loco fleet. Of course, some of them started life in China! Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hartleymartin Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 If I remember correctly, the 1970s Atlas O gauge were made in Austria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted October 6, 2016 Author Share Posted October 6, 2016 http://www.woodburymodels.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Graphic1.bmp i'd use this plan but it hasn't got a scale ruler to work from, do you know the wheel base so i can work from that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJon30 Posted October 6, 2016 Share Posted October 6, 2016 Hi. According to the GOG table the center of the buffers is 24.5mm above rail top. You should be able to scale from that? That would make the wheel base around 38mm? Rgds Andrew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted October 6, 2016 Author Share Posted October 6, 2016 the average buffer height is 3' 5" but buffer height and distance apart can differ slightly from one prototype to another so i need something to work from for specific drawing if im going to use it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted October 7, 2016 Author Share Posted October 7, 2016 ive decided on a Planet and started building Firstly the bufferbeams 8' x 3' 6" (56mm x 24.5mm) with holes drilled for the buffers and slots for the hooks, shown here ready to cut out with the hacksaw planet (1) by Sam, on Flickr these are then connected by 106mm of channel section planet (2) by Sam, on Flickr then those side sheets at 20mm wide planet (3) by Sam, on Flickr planet (5) by Sam, on Flickr the brackets on the inside of the bufferbeams that the chassis hooks into and cutting back the side pieces to 15mm which looks better planet (6) by Sam, on Flickr footplate cut out but not stuck down planet (7) by Sam, on Flickr 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruston Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Have you found a drawing to work from? For a long time I've wanted a Hibberd but no one does a kit in 7mm and I've never seen any basic dimensions, let alone a drawing. I'll watch your build with particular interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dava Posted October 8, 2016 RMweb Premium Share Posted October 8, 2016 Ruston, http://www.woodburymodels.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Graphic1.bmp Link to drawing Dava Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir douglas Posted October 8, 2016 Author Share Posted October 8, 2016 ive just realised last night that i can use the gauge as the scale on the plan. and ive found a thread with measurements on it which i noted down http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/55220-hibberd-planet-locomotives/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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