Waveydavey Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Masokits do a spring chassis for the Parkside PMV/CCT. I have one in my to do pile. Cheers David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted August 20, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 20, 2015 Waiting with fingers crossed................that Bachmann will have used a BR Green closer to Hornby's take on it, not the far too dark version they've been using on recent releases. If not, money saved Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PenrithBeacon Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 10 days later and still no apology! It is a pity I edited this, The anonynmous Penrith Beacon doesn't appear to have seen my original post, insulting my 15 year self . What was he doing, where was he recording railway for our use?Don't understand this, don't understand it at all. Firstly I'm by no means anonymous and secondly I really can't see, due to the condition of the vehicle, what the colours are. But, as I said in my post, I'll take your word for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Don't understand this, don't understand it at all. Firstly I'm by no means anonymous and secondly I really can't see, due to the condition of the vehicle, what the colours are. But, as I said in my post, I'll take your word for it. First off apologies I didn't see your name in the footnote, its not on your profile which is where I looked. I am also really sorry that, at 15 years old, I took a slightly dirty van and also made the mistake of saving pocket money by using Agfa and not Kodachrome. But I think it is reasonably clear it is not a black end - the headstock is different and is a black, so it is green. I have looked again at the photo - which is of course a colour slide of about 50 years old and therefore perhaps not in the original condition and I cannot see why there is any difficulty in seeing it is green. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/srpmv/e341aefa I'm just sorry it appears to have been delayed; I've had enough correspondence with Bachmann - even to confirming the paint dates on the end - to know they plan on doing this model. Paul Bartlett Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted August 20, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 20, 2015 Anyone looked at the Bachman site recently? Job vacancy that I would go fo if I was ten years younger. Anyhow, thanks for reminding me of this product. P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted August 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2015 (edited) First off apologies I didn't see your name in the footnote, its not on your profile which is where I looked. I am also really sorry that, at 15 years old, I took a slightly dirty van and also made the mistake of saving pocket money by using Agfa and not Kodachrome. But I think it is reasonably clear it is not a black end - the headstock is different and is a black, so it is green. I have looked again at the photo - which is of course a colour slide of about 50 years old and therefore perhaps not in the original condition and I cannot see why there is any difficulty in seeing it is green. http://PaulBartlett.zenfolio.com/srpmv/e341aefa I'm just sorry it appears to have been delayed; I've had enough correspondence with Bachmann - even to confirming the paint dates on the end - to cknow they plan on doing this model. Paul Bartlett Looking at your picture, I wouldn't rule out the end being painted black, as opposed to just having acquired a generous helping of sooty grime. Muck sticks to wood more easily than it does to smoother metal surfaces and it also washes off the latter more readily when rained on, causing it to build up more slowly. The dirt on the bodywork is therefore likely to be older and thicker than any on the headstock, making it even harder to judge what lies underneath. Either way, the ends of these vans got dirty very quickly in service as the low pressure areas between vehicles naturally pulled it in. Even if the models turn up with the ends painted black, I'll be attacking mine to create that typical dusty grey/brown look. John Edited August 21, 2015 by Dunsignalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted August 21, 2015 Share Posted August 21, 2015 Looking at your picture, I wouldn't rule out the end being painted black, as opposed to just having acquired a generous helping of sooty grime. Muck sticks to wood more easily than it does to smoother metal surfaces and it also washes off the latter more readily when rained on, causing it to build up more slowly. The dirt on the bodywork is therefore likely to be older and thicker than any on the headstock, making it even harder to judge what lies underneath. Either way, the ends of these vans got dirty very quickly in service as the low pressure areas between vehicles naturally pulled it in. Even if the models turn up with the ends painted black, I'll be attacking mine to create that typical dusty grey/brown look. John Grief I just do not understand what others are seeing in this picture. The side illustration is very clearly green and in the end view there is sufficient of the side to show it is the same colour as the end, yes it is dirty, yes it is Agfa slide film and yes the headstock is clearly a different colour, black. Paul 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted August 21, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 21, 2015 Look, Paul is the Geru when it comes to wagons. FGS accept his advice and leave the speculation. No connection to Paul other than a very happy customer of his brilliant work and an admirer of his damn fine knowledge. Phil @ 36E 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted August 21, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 21, 2015 Grief I just do not understand what others are seeing in this picture. The side illustration is very clearly green and in the end view there is sufficient of the side to show it is the same colour as the end, yes it is dirty, yes it is Agfa slide film and yes the headstock is clearly a different colour, black. Paul Sorry, you have the original but at the size the photo comes up on my screen, I wouldn't bet money on what colour the ends were. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmrspaul Posted August 22, 2015 Share Posted August 22, 2015 Sorry, you have the original but at the size the photo comes up on my screen, I wouldn't bet money on what colour the ends were. John Have you looked in "Slideshow" this is the largest way that an image can display - an alternative is to use zoom. It is a reasonably good quality scan Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted August 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 23, 2015 Have you looked in "Slideshow" this is the largest way that an image can display - an alternative is to use zoom. It is a reasonably good quality scan Paul Thanks, I see what you mean. The green does (just) show through but wouldn't if it were any dirtier. I find the side view even more interesting. In particular, it is striking how much dirtier the areas outboard of the doors look compared with the rest of it. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefrk Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 I must admit it is difficult but on my monitor there is a definate green to the van end, maybe some people's monitors aren't showing it quite as well. Dave Franks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted August 23, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 23, 2015 I must admit it is difficult but on my monitor there is a definate green to the van end, maybe some people's monitors aren't showing it quite as well. Dave Franks. Considerably more clearly green on my screen once I'd turned off the room lighting (fluorescent). John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Better get that last kit finished. Finished ? You'll have plenty of time yet methinks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted August 24, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 24, 2015 Todays Mre mag has this photo of the new SR liveried Bachmann model. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Hilux5972 Posted August 24, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 24, 2015 Very nice 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black 5 Bear Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Very nice I will be ordering at least two variants of these, absolutely superb detailing...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesysmith Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Don't like it. You can actually tell what colour it is painted. I thought the correct colour for this kind of stock was grime? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted August 24, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 24, 2015 I thought the correct colour for this kind of stock was grime? Indeed; and why I have a sneaking suspicion that the next batch of releases of these will be weathered versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Indeed; and why I have a sneaking suspicion that the next batch of releases of these will be weathered versions. ...with patches cleaned enough to show the important bits of the lettering, and chalk markings all over with mis-spelled place names like Lester and Gloster. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Gwiwer Posted August 25, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted August 25, 2015 ... chalk markings all over with mis-spelled place names like Lester and Gloster. Not forgetting the ubiquitous B/ARMS Nice van. Waiting patiently here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted August 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 25, 2015 ...with patches cleaned enough to show the important bits of the lettering, and chalk markings all over with mis-spelled place names like Lester and Gloster. Not forgetting the ubiquitous B/ARMS. It was indeed a supervisor at B Arms who talked of a wagon destination as "Crewe Gresta" - Crewe Gresty Lane! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lochinvar Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 ...with patches cleaned enough to show the important bits of the lettering, and chalk markings all over with mis-spelled place names like Lester and Gloster. It was 'edinboro' that caused maximum offence in these parts.! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibber25 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 It was 'edinboro' that caused maximum offence in these parts.! .....and for us Southerners, the equally offensive STAINS CHRIS LEIGH Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dunsignalling Posted August 25, 2015 RMweb Gold Share Posted August 25, 2015 .....and for us Southerners, the equally offensive STAINS CHRIS LEIGH Stains? Would that count as weathering? John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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