micklner Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 Graeme's method for the cartazzi wheels themselves may be better. I was mostly showing the cosmetics of shortening the back of the frame and moving the steps forwards for the A2/1. I am currently trying to modify the Bachmann A2 cartazzi arrangement to work under the cab. I have removed a bunch of material from under the cab floor on the body and also from the top area of the chassis casting where the screw slides. I wont know if it is enough till I can test on the track. If not I will either break through the cab floor or try Graeme's method for the wheels I have gone for Graemes version this afternoon as their is very little space under the cab. I have had to break through into cab with the wheel mounting casting. Hopefully I can conceal the hole with the back head when fitted and a Loco crew. As mine will be the all Black LNER version it should be dark in there !! I need to think a way of mounting the body at the rear and a new Loco to Tender connection hopefully it should be easy to do. They do look great, i hanker after the first incarnation with the really short cab. Looks simple , but that would be a lot more work to create. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dominion Posted January 11, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 11, 2015 Happy to report the rear wheels work fine with the modified A2 cartazzi arrangement under the V2 cab. I am a bit surprised too because as you said thre is not much room under there ! Now I need to decide which A2/1 it will be and which apple green livery so I can decide which tender it will have. Have you a good source for the livery evolution for the 4 of them ? I am trying to figure out if British Railways is the only option for apple green or if any of them ran after black with LNER on the tender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) All of the A2/1 were in Black in LNER days with various Tenders as well. 509 Waverley which I am building 6 wheel GS Tender , 8 wheel Riveted tender as the A2's from 10/46 508 Duke of Rothesay had a 6 GS wheel Tender. 8 wheel riveted from 06/49 507 Highland Chieftain 6 GS wheel . ex A4 Streamlined Tender 12/45 510 Robert the Bruce 6 GS wheel tender . 8 wheel riveted 09/49 None were Green till 08/49 All originally had NE on Tenders. Between 03/46 3697(508) 06/46 510 10/46 509 05/47 507 all converted to LNER in full. Three had Gold shaded lettering and numbers, 507 had Yellow Gill Sans as did 508 from 07/47 Info RCTS Part 2a Mine has had the Caratzzi finished today inc body mounting holes and the Drawbar connector. I will post pictures tomorrow. Edited January 11, 2015 by micklner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dominion Posted January 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2015 Thanks Mick, I found the relevant section now, thank you. It seems I can have either 60508 or 60509 in LNER green with British Railways on the tender if i interpret correctly (Sept 48 and August 48 respectively) . But only 60508 if I want to run it with the 6 wheel tender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Dominion Posted January 12, 2015 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 12, 2015 All of the A2/1 were in Black in LNER days with various Tenders as well. 509 Waverley which I am building 6 wheel GS Tender , 8 wheel Riveted tender as the A2's from 10/46 508 Duke of Rothesay had a 6 GS wheel Tender. 8 wheel riveted from 06/49 507 Highland Chieftain 6 GS wheel . ex A4 Streamlined Tender 12/45 510 Robert the Bruce 6 GS wheel tender . 8 wheel riveted 09/49 None were Green till 08/49 All originally had NE on Tenders. Between 03/46 3697(508) 06/46 510 10/46 509 05/47 507 all converted to LNER in full. Three had Gold shaded lettering and numbers, 507 had Yellow Gill Sans as did 508 from 07/47 Info RCTS Part 2a Mine has had the Caratzzi finished today inc body mounting holes and the Drawbar connector. I will post pictures tomorrow. I put some photos on Graeme's LNER thread for the cartazzi arrangement, body fixing, and draw bar connection on my A2/1. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Thanks Mick, I found the relevant section now, thank you. It seems I can have either 60508 or 60509 in LNER green with British Railways on the tender if i interpret correctly (Sept 48 and August 48 respectively) . But only 60508 if I want to run it with the 6 wheel tender. 509 had the numbers about halfway down the cabside instead of the normal BR position Tender was BR in full. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted January 12, 2015 Author Share Posted January 12, 2015 Modified A2 chassis using method suggested by Graeme King. Brass strip added for body mounting and tender connector , chassis cut back in Cartazzi area. Cab area modified to allow for the truck mounting to be hidden behind Backhead. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted February 3, 2015 Author Share Posted February 3, 2015 One disaster later the resin body was damaged and unrepairable. Luckily I saved the Smokebox. Latest attempt Now using a Hornby A3 Boiler and GBL A4 Cab the A2/1 is nearly ready for small detail, Body is loose fitted in photos. Chassis done and can be seen running in the first photo. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tomlinson Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Fascinating as ever. Is the running plate also part of the A3 Boiler? Many thanks, John. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 Fascinating as ever. Is the running plate also part of the A3 Boiler? Many thanks, John. Yes the rear part. Still needs some minor adjusting . It slimmer than the Bachmann A2 so the valve gear needs adjusting too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted February 17, 2015 Author Share Posted February 17, 2015 (edited) Ready for paint. Ignore Lens distortion , body it is straight and not fixed down in photos. Edited February 17, 2015 by micklner 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted March 9, 2015 Author Share Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) Waverley done a lot of faffing about as well. The main work needed was due to the difference in the Bachmann metal A2 and the much slimmer plastic Hornby A3 footplate . As a result the valve gear and various other parts requiring building up to compensate for the difference. On reflection a kit would have been much easier !! Also on the go another conversion for a Southern pride/Bachmann Thompson Brake 3rd As usual please ignore the bends caused by the Camera lens. Edited March 9, 2015 by micklner 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted March 9, 2015 Share Posted March 9, 2015 Waverley looks brilliant - quite striking in black... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted April 9, 2015 Author Share Posted April 9, 2015 (edited) Commision Bachmann K3 which has had the missing lining added. Dapol tanker rebuilt ,new couplings , wheels and weathered Hornby CCT roof repainted and weathered Hornby Horsebox weathered Finally a new one for the layout a Ford brakedown truck. Edited April 11, 2015 by micklner 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 More Flying Scotsman Coaches done. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) Will you do Thompson RF or RK? Edited May 5, 2015 by davidw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I spotted an ex-Flying Scotsman brake third like those in a consist in East Anglia in a book I was reading yesterday. I shall bear these in mind.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Will you do Thompson RF or RK? No, according to the Banks book they were not used until BR days. Southern Pride only list a FK on their current list as well. Again from Banks book the set used a Gresley RTS set in 1947. (Which I don't have either !!) I could always cheat and use my Gresley MJT Restaurant set instead !!. The only one I haven't built of the Southern Pride LNER period versions is the FO which will be done in due course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) CT8 Kitchen Car 353 Thats the one I meant. I thought they were deployed in the Scotsman. Top and tailed with an TO and FO Edited May 5, 2015 by davidw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) Just dived into the bank's book I'd not paid much attention befor. I'll look in more detai. Edited May 5, 2015 by davidw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted May 11, 2015 Author Share Posted May 11, 2015 More Thompson. This time a commission. A2/1 circa 1945 prior to naming as Highland Chieftain. Based on Bachmann A2 , G King Resin and etched valve gear and a GBL A4 Tender Body. 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Another commission job. D&S Dyno Car. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted June 25, 2015 Author Share Posted June 25, 2015 More bashing and a repaint. This a Bachmann B1 renamed as Inyala a York engine.This paired with a some much better quality spare/damaged Hornby B1 Tender. As Hornby have announced a Green B1 and even then in BR lettering at £155 I thought this was a much cheaper alternative at about £50 . If a damaged Hornby B1 comes up in the future the Loco will be replaced due to the dire chassis on the Bachmann. Many thanks to Paul aka 34theletterbetweenB&D for a replacement motor. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share Posted August 3, 2015 Makeover on another Bachmann V2 body for the latest Bachmann V2 chassis. New Handrails, Vacumn return pipe, Chimney,Dome, Shifting valve, Hornby A3 Door, Lamp irons and Sand fillers. More detail to be added after painting and lining. Please ignore the banana bend effect that is the camera not the model. This is based on the old body which needed modifying to fit the chassis. New rear mountings and the front frames shortened. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rail-Online Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Mick, I have heard people saying it is rubbish, but please excuse my ignorance, but what is actually wrong with the Bachmann V2 body? Cheers Tony Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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