RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted February 25, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 25, 2018 Deservedly so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 (edited) First I start off by adding the two full length horizontals. Then add from the bottom working one side then the other Until they meet in the middle-ish Can't do much else tonight, gotta let the whole thing dry. Once dried :- 1. a quick rub down 2. out with the squadron green putty, once the putty is dry then 3. a rub down, 4. a primer 5. another rub down. This last prime and rub down should show you/ me the high and low points. Then It's repeat steps 2, 3, 4 & 5 til im happy with the roof. TTFN Scott Edited February 25, 2018 by gobbler 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 So....,,,, this is the result after the first covering of squadron green, rub down, primer, and primer rub down. When I say rub down I mean light sanding. I do this by laying a sheet of Hermes P180 emery paper (and this is the crucial bit the surface has to be 100% flat) on a flat surface and move the coach back and forth against the grain of the roof strips following the radius of the roof. Not too shabby for the first round of finishing the roof, once more of the above steps and this will be licked hopefully 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Regularity Posted February 26, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 26, 2018 (edited) once more of the above steps and this will be licked hopefullyDo you find spittle to be more effective than water when wet sanding? Edited February 26, 2018 by Regularity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 Do you find spittle to be more effective than water when wet sanding? A little bit of tap water Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) While I'm out on the road at work, I have an hour to kill. So whilst my luggage/milk van is at home drying I thought I'd start something else. A GER passenger train cattle box. A little muck up on the marking out, but that's ok as this is the inside. Also of note it has four ventilation windows in the side, I'm having two open, one at either end on each side, hence the two odd squares that have been marked out. These vehicles lasted up to 1959 so I can have one for my layout (which I should start in the summer) TTFN Scott Edited February 27, 2018 by gobbler 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 Maybe we should be considering making snowploughs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 Maybe we should be considering making snowploughs? Why? It's going to be high summer on my layout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted February 27, 2018 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 27, 2018 Why? It's going to be high summer on my layout Was just looking out the window and I see you're not far from me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 Is everyone having trouble uploading pictures? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brossard Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Is everyone having trouble uploading pictures? Yes, I just had to resort to Flickr to get mine up. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) Having trouble sharing from my Flickr also the photo upload on here has gone up the swanny Anyway a brief description:- 1. All appatures are cut out of my GER passenger cattle wagon 2. More importantly my milk/luggage van, have started work on the 4 objects on the roof. Can't really tell, but I'm assuming they should be a clear glass structure to allow extra light into the body of the van. You may notice some clear plastic 'cloches' just below the body, glinting away, its possible I've got to cut some holes in the roof, hopefully Jonathan, if your reading this you can confirm that this is the case. RMWEB is fixed hooray!! TTFN Scott Edited February 28, 2018 by gobbler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTrice Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Yes, they look like skylights. A GNR example: 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 As Mike has said. I cheat and use the 51L LNWR ones. They're slightly lower pitched, but no-one has complained up to now. Maybe they're just all too polite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Mike, Thanks a bundle, looks like I'll be modifying the roof somewhat. Knowing my luck, where I've put the roof formers I'll hit one in each of the skylights I'll let you chaps know a bit later TTFN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timbowilts Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Mike, Thanks a bundle, looks like I'll be modifying the roof somewhat. Knowing my luck, where I've put the roof formers I'll hit one in each of the skylights I'll let you chaps know a bit later TTFN Scott, at the time period you are modelling do you think that anyone would actually bother to clean the rooflights? You therefore don’t need to worry about the partitions being visible as no-one should be able to see through the muck! Come to think of it if you do have mucky lights there is no reason to then cut holes in the roof? Tim T 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwealleans Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Spot on. Have a look at the similar rooflights on this and you'll see that they were almost always caked over with soot and dirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) Thanks Jonathan, On the model in the above link, the top lights look to be opaque/painted over. Here on my model they will be clear, however I can still paint over them if need be The glazing is only test fitted at the mo' coz' it needs a spot of paint here and there. On the down side though, where I've made the roof appatures its split parts of the roof, shouldn't be too difficult to repair. Luckily all my previous misgivings about hitting the roof formers were unfounded (luck more than judgment) What do you Guy's think??? Scott Edited February 28, 2018 by gobbler 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dseagull Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 This is superb - will be following with interest. I've not indulged in scratch building stock before, but enjoy the process with buildings, and with a liking for the 1900-1925 period, think I will either have to give it a go or acquire far better soldering skills than I have managed on the past 15 years...! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) What took you soooooooooo long dseagull???? You just need a decent drawing and off you go, please give it a go. Post your pic's and ask as many Q's as you like. If you start your own thread post it here too. Scott Edited February 28, 2018 by gobbler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) Scott, at the time period you are modelling do you think that anyone would actually bother to clean the rooflights? You therefore don’t need to worry about the partitions being visible as no-one should be able to see through the muck! Come to think of it if you do have mucky lights there is no reason to then cut holes in the roof? Tim T Too late.......wished I seen this sooner Transitional period of around 1959ish Scott Edited February 28, 2018 by gobbler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boeing7572t6 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I’m looking forward to seeing the passenger cattle wagon develop. Having seen the details in Historic Carriage Drawings which I suspect is your reference, I’ve always wanted one of these in 7mm. My problem is how to model the extensive louvred windows, if you can do it in 4mm then there’s no excuse. Looking at the photo/drawing it appears there is only a handbrake (GE ratchet type) on one side and I can’t tell if the Westinghouse brakes are still fitted. Hopefully your build will generate some input from others. Nice GN van by the way Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 I’m looking forward to seeing the passenger cattle wagon develop. Having seen the details in Historic Carriage Drawings which I suspect is your reference, I’ve always wanted one of these in 7mm. My problem is how to model the extensive louvred windows, if you can do it in 4mm then there’s no excuse. Looking at the photo/drawing it appears there is only a handbrake (GE ratchet type) on one side and I can’t tell if the Westinghouse brakes are still fitted. Hopefully your build will generate some input from others. Nice GN van by the way Bob I'm fairly confident in how I'm going to do the louvres (see my CCT at the end of my suburban coach thread) although I'm hatching a plan to do them slightly differently My main concern are the 'W' irons for the wheels, I'm hatching a plan on how to do these as well. These will be made out of plasticard for starters anyway. Keep watching, although I'll finish off the milk/luggage van first. Scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobbler Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 My last posting tonight The top lights nearing completion and some Alan Gibson white metal torpedo vents added. Soon be time to start work on the underside TTFN Scott 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15class Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I'm fairly confident in how I'm going to do the louvres (see my CCT at the end of my suburban coach thread) although I'm hatching a plan to do them slightly differently My main concern are the 'W' irons for the wheels, I'm hatching a plan on how to do these as well. These will be made out of plasticard for starters anyway. Keep watching, although I'll finish off the milk/luggage van first. Scott I found a good way of doing louvres that gives them a sloping flat surface. It is with a miss shape ofla cutter. Look at Pete's workbench, link below it's for a special luggage van. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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