drduncan Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Hi everyone, Are Perseverance chassis kits still available? I think they were owned last by Chris Parrish up near Pickering... Thanks DrDuncan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
decauville1126 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Sadly Chris passed away a while ago. Hopefully you will get a definitive response on here as they are pretty foolproof chassis kits based on the flexichas principle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 Not long after restarting the range unfortunately. Nothing has appeared from elsewhere since to my knowledge. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnarcher Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 (edited) Yes, it would be good to hear if anyone has heard anything about a future for all or part of the range. Not just the chassis kits, but other bits and kits (the 48xx kit would be nice to have around again). Edited June 19, 2019 by johnarcher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Pannier Tank Posted June 19, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 19, 2019 46 minutes ago, drduncan said: Are Perseverance chassis kits still available? Are you interested in any particular chassis? I have a surplus Dean Goods Loco & Tender Chassis Kit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 I think there may be plans afoot to see if it is possible to reintroduce them as I have heard a few titbits but nothing concrete. on the other hand would it be commercially viable to reintroduce them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold chris p bacon Posted June 20, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 20, 2019 I did a replacement chassis for the Lima J50 which used to be in the Perseverance range, I've got them in the classifieds here if anyone is interested. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 3 hours ago, hayfield said: I think there may be plans afoot to see if it is possible to reintroduce them as I have heard a few titbits but nothing concrete. on the other hand would it be commercially viable to reintroduce them To make loads of money probably not. But the same could be said about any of the small suppliers. Jason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Jason You have a valid point of view, however any potential buyer needs to be certain they are not only going to get their investment back but show a profit, that is dependant on whether those winding up the estate firstly want to sell the business, then ask a reasonable price for it and lastly find a buyer In someways for those with the skills it could be cheaper and better to start from scratch as modern software has moved on as have the etching process, then are the masters compatible with modern etchers requirements ? Something well out of my depth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 It is probable that the more popular chassis have been produced by other suppliers such as SE Finecast, Comet, etc 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Jeff Agree and they have taken them a bit further, if they were a going design they would be snapped up Don't forget London Road Models, Branchlines and High Level. All 3 make very good chassis kits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold ikks Posted June 26, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2019 I have looked everywhere for a scale LMS Compound chassis kit but all I can find is the Comet kit specifically designed for the Hornby model with its stretched wheelbase...........any ideas anyone??? Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 How about the GEM etched chassis, I know they were temporally unavailable but might be back in operation now, Alan Gibson will do mainframes, not quite the same but with the Mainly Trains brake etchings back in production a good attempt could be cobbled together if needed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 I went for the Gibson frames for my two GEM MR kits (the 4P and 3P/700 Class). Still unbuilt, but I believe they were designed to fit the GEM kits and are to scale. You might need a bit of fettling. Gibson also make most of the other parts you might want as well as they used to sell a Compound kit. I don't think that GEM made a specific chassis for the Compound. In the instructions it recommends the L1 chassis, but the kit itself hasn't been available for years and wasn't one of the reissues. They used to make a generic chassis kit as a direct replacement for the L1 chassis, but I don't think they make that anymore either. The available 4-4-0s now have scale chassis kits designed for that locomotive. http://lytchettmanor.co.uk.websitebuilder.prositehosting.co.uk/lytchett-manor/oo-gauge-chassis-kits Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted June 30, 2019 Author Share Posted June 30, 2019 Dear all, Many thanks to you all for your replies and information. Seeing the perseverance range back would be very nice but alas not likely it seems. Duncan 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted June 30, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 30, 2019 Does anyone know where they were etched? An enquiry to the main etching companies may well find that the artwork is stored there and could be revived. Just need to find out who owns the IP rights and do a deal with them. I accept the point that they may not be "state of the art". But if they are simple to assemble and accurate dimensionally, that will do for most of us. I do think the brand name "Perseverance" was a bit of a mistake. Makes them sound difficult to build. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 As an educated guess it will be Chris Parish's estate I know very little about the etching process, but remember from another thread that it is becoming harder to use older artwork, owing to the etching process moving on, presumable CAD software Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol Wilkinson Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Joseph_Pestell said: Does anyone know where they were etched? An enquiry to the main etching companies may well find that the artwork is stored there and could be revived. Just need to find out who owns the IP rights and do a deal with them. I accept the point that they may not be "state of the art". But if they are simple to assemble and accurate dimensionally, that will do for most of us. I do think the brand name "Perseverance" was a bit of a mistake. Makes them sound difficult to build. One "Smaller Supplier" has been in touch with Chris Parrish's family, but they are not yet able/willing to decide what to do with the range. The etch tools are probably with one of the two etchers popular with the model railway trade, but they will not act without authorisation from the Estate. The original artwork may have been returned to Chris Parrish when the tools were made. They may have gone back to Rod Neep, who as I believe designed some of the artwork, may still be with the etches or may no longer exist. Whichever, it is dependant on what Chris's family wish to do if the range, or at least part of it, is ever to be reintroduced 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Smith Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 You would also need the grooved axle bearings if making the compensated version, I don't know if they are still available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted July 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 1, 2019 18 hours ago, Jol Wilkinson said: One "Smaller Supplier" has been in touch with Chris Parrish's family, but they are not yet able/willing to decide what to do with the range. The etch tools are probably with one of the two etchers popular with the model railway trade, but they will not act without authorisation from the Estate. The original artwork may have been returned to Chris Parrish when the tools were made. They may have gone back to Rod Neep, who as I believe designed some of the artwork, may still be with the etches or may no longer exist. Whichever, it is dependant on what Chris's family wish to do if the range, or at least part of it, is ever to be reintroduced Thanks, Jol, for that info. At least there is some contact underway and therefore some possibility of a future reintroduction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Bowden Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) Chris Parrish recently died, his widow Heather is selling the remnants of stock for £6000,00. Contact her via the North Yorkshire Moors Railway. Edited July 6, 2019 by Chris Bowden typo errors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium polybear Posted July 7, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted July 7, 2019 On 30/06/2019 at 14:24, Jeff Smith said: You would also need the grooved axle bearings if making the compensated version, I don't know if they are still available. Brassmasters have their own version - A030: http://www.brassmasters.co.uk/accessories.htm HTH Brian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayfield Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I think both London Road Models and Alan Gibson do them, plus plenty of them around second hand MJT etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drduncan Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) On 06/07/2019 at 11:53, Chris Bowden said: Chris Parrish recently died, his widow Heather is selling the remnants of stock for £6000,00. Contact her via the North Yorkshire Moors Railway. Is there a specific individual to contact at NYMR or an email address? Edited July 13, 2019 by drduncan Clarity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobMG Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 On 07/07/2019 at 07:08, polybear said: Brassmasters have their own version - A030: http://www.brassmasters.co.uk/accessories.htm HTH Brian I bought a pannier chassis off ebay , most of the grooved bearings were missing. Assuming I would find it impossible to get any , I turned new ones on my lathe. Rob On 07/07/2019 at 07:08, polybear said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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