sulzeruk Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Queen Street in 89, the guys has loads of good old Scottish videos in his collection on youtube. I used to see the 47s from the windows at school in Bishopbriggs slowing for the PSR after Bishy station, 1 also on fire as well which was quite interesting! Alasdair Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iankemp Posted June 29, 2012 Share Posted June 29, 2012 Found this video from Queen Street in 1986. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Here is the signal decoder for GQS:- I have finally got round to making it after being asked by the team about how to drive the Traintronics signals which have been used on GQS. It is two decoders on one board to keep it all together. Each of the decoders will drive up to four signals. The decoders are based on the DIY Decoder Project accessory decoder with the standard downloadable firmware, but use the motor decoder output driver circuit to get round the rather irritating common cathode wiring and 12V requirement of the Traintronics signals, 5V or common anode signals can use a much simpler decoder! The little module at the top is a Traintronics signal emulator to test it with which demonstrates the 2-wire and 3-wire wiring options that are available. I suspect that the 3-wire method will be more straightforward really rather than messing around with diodes. In case you are wondering what the little red loop is on the right, there are separate red wire inputs for the two decoders so that they can be programmed separately when required. As an aside, if the layout ever gets backdated you could still use the decoder to power Tortoises for the semaphores! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iankemp Posted October 19, 2012 Share Posted October 19, 2012 found this! Wonder if it any use to you!! http://nr.mediastorehouse.com/glasgow_queen_street_sections/print/6535268.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidM Posted December 13, 2012 Author Share Posted December 13, 2012 We're back! And not only to take the dust off this thread....I've had a job and house change and Chris has been up to his eyes in work but that's enough excuses... We left you in mid-May with the platforms mostly completed and work starting on the station concourse. However over the summer months we've replaced the platforms (hopefully!) one last time as sadly again the refurbed platforms began to heavily sag. The platforms are now constructed out of balsa wood cut to shape by Kevin, who joined the LYDCC club during the summer (and is a dab hand at woodwork!) which has been sprayed with textured paint. Although this gives a slightly darker texture, we began to find that as well as bowing, the fine ballast dust used to give the platforms their texture was going everywhere. Kevins current project is the wooden frames and base for the Cathedral Street overbridge. The pillars (18mm dowel....and i've looked at far too many photos to reckon it's 'bob on'!) are attached to the platform bases so results in a very sturdy structure that will be able to hold the rest of the bridge structure. This has been measured and is currently being drawn up to fit.... Chris has began wiring in signals CQ2-5 and 7-9, with CQ6 waiting in a Traintronics box for 'bashing' and placing pretty soon. The custom built decoder mentioned above (Cheers Suzie!) has been tested with all the signals and does everything we want it too (although semaphores are out of the question :-) ) so by the new year GQS will be fully rigged up with authentic looking and operating signals. Scenery work has taken a bit of a sidestep although ballasting is now pretty much complete. The platform edging is now complete and painted for each platform (including the areas where GQS Lower station passes under at the concourse end) and tonights little project for me (apart from posting this of course!) is drawing up some artwork for the various building interiors for the concourse. The scenery to the rear of the layout between Cathedral Street and the Cowlairs Tunnel Portal is substantially complete with the iron fencing now in place and suitably overgrown. Stockwise, our Derby Area Group (members:- 1) has continued to churn out renumbered and detailed Mk2s. 5382 and 5300 have definately bolstered the fleet but i'm ashamed to say I haven't got any further numbers to hand....i'll give him a nudge to put a post up and save me (or add to?) my embarrassment! Chris is continiuing the conversion of the four Mk2Cs using a collection of Airfix, Lima and Bachmann Mk2 parts... With the layout planned to be 'on the road' and at at least one exhibition on the cards in Summer 2013, work has continued although the thread has laid dormant.....and we promise to keep you up more up to date than we have.... Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the penguin of doom Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 There's no mistaking that as Queen St from the platform end chaps. It's come along very well since your last posting. Cheers. Sean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold beast66606 Posted December 14, 2012 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 14, 2012 If you would like to try your hand at signalling Queen Street as it was in 1988 (for £10) then a simulation has now been released http://www.simsig.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=103&catid=44 No connection, other than a very happy user of their software. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bri.s Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Looking good I remember seeing a layout of queen st at an exhibition about 15 years ago had a incline in the tunnel and a shed area on the raised area really like the 47'7s on the mark 3's and d b s o's and the class 26's top and tailing passengers Anyways keep up the good work will be watching with intrest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 Just had a look at this page:-Is that a position indicator signal I can see below the main aspect (also on the one in the background)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 GQS_Jan1.jpg I have finally decided this is the theme for my next layoutHowever it is in N gaugeThere I have these questions :1From the above photo, could you advise me what size of points you used?I appreciate these are Code 100 in OO gauge, but it should be possible to convert that to Code 55 in N gauge2What dimensions were used for the platform widths?3The twin crossovers just within the tunnel are missingDid swapping trains between each track present any problems?Equally, I have noted that the tunnel mouth is not completely in alignment with the parallel Platforms 4/5/6This now makes sense as to why I could stand on Platform 2 and see trains arriving within the tunnelWas any modellers licence used for the track layout / platform arrangements?For example, Platform 7 appears shorter than I remember it (as the end of the platform was beyond the signal on Platform 6) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
class"66" Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Still coming along well i see... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Is that a position indicator signal I can see below the main aspect (also on the one in the background)? Yes, all the signals have a call-on signal either directly below or slightly below and to the side of the main signal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 GQS_Jan1.jpg 1 From the above photo, could you advise me what size of points you used? I appreciate these are Code 100 in OO gauge, but it should be possible to convert that to Code 55 in N gauge I am now in a position to order all the required trackwork However, I am still struggling to decide what points to order It looks to me like there are two sizes in use, either : large and medium or medium and small Any and all help appreciated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted February 12, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 12, 2013 I am now in a position to order all the required trackwork However, I am still struggling to decide what points to order It looks to me like there are two sizes in use, either : large and medium or medium and small Any and all help appreciated The Peco N gauge range is not directly comparable with the OO, so you will need to make your own mind up. The large radius is 3ft which would be 6ft in OO whereas it is 5ft. Likewise the medium is 2ft which would be 4ft in OO not 3ft. And the crossing angle is a rather better 10deg rather than 12. So, as last poster says, you will really need to do your own research and design. But my guess is that most should be large radius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Reid Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 --- Not being funny, but I'm not sure why, having spent many many hours doing their research, the guys should then give out every bit of info so someone doesn't have to go out of their way when building a 1/2 scale model of their layout? Turn it the other way - refer back to the starting posts of this topic. .Why should anyone give up there own research to help out the builders of the layout who could equally do the same thing? It's what this hobby is about - no one's obliged to give out anything for free but it's generally what happens and most folk are appreciative. Many layouts would never be built (or not built with some semblance of accuracy if it were not for the things done by others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 The initial request was simply to establish what size of points had been used on the OO gauge layoutI could then work out how this would translate to N gaugeHaving compared the original track plan (which is pretty much still in effect) the main crossover which feeds Platforms 3/4 presents a problem as it is a combination, not possible with any of the currently available ranges Sadly Network Rail have declined my request for any technical information, as the track plan and engineering currently existHowever, I do have an appointment with ScotRail to arrange a full day taking measurements, but this is limited to the platforms and main concourse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Joseph_Pestell Posted February 13, 2013 RMweb Gold Share Posted February 13, 2013 The initial request was simply to establish what size of points had been used on the OO gauge layout I could then work out how this would translate to N gauge Having compared the original track plan (which is pretty much still in effect) the main crossover which feeds Platforms 3/4 presents a problem as it is a combination, not possible with any of the currently available ranges Sadly Network Rail have declined my request for any technical information, as the track plan and engineering currently exist However, I do have an appointment with ScotRail to arrange a full day taking measurements, but this is limited to the platforms and main concourse We all run into this problem when trying to build accurate models of prototype locations. Commercial model points are not much like the real thing. You may have to compromise or else build your own. You may be able to get round it by modifications to the Peco points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 We all run into this problem when trying to build accurate models of prototype locations. Commercial model points are not much like the real thing. You may have to compromise or else build your own. You may be able to get round it by modifications to the Peco points. The OP also had this same issue, they decided to use what was readily available As it is, I doubt anyone would notice the difference, unless they compared the layout against photos of the location Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I am disappointed the OP has not yet respondedI have managed to source yet more pictures of Glasgow Queen Street, which confused the issue further I had planned to recreate the track layout between 1984 and 1996However, photos have now shown three different layouts existed!The carriage siding track was lifted, so that is not an issueHowever in 1985 there was a brief period where there was no track to Platform 1, the point was then relocated and reinstatedI have therefore selected the layout from 1987 onwardsI have purchased all but one set of points, as I am still uncertain what size it isThis is the point that leads into Platform 7The point that leads into Platform 6 / 5 and 4, appears to be slightly shorterI suspect this (missing) point is the same length as the one on the opposite track, having purchase a large appears to be the nearest availableAny further advice is welcomeThe next stage is to commence laying of the track, but the dimensions for the platforms is severly lacking, and I am no further forward with either Network Rail or ScotRail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian b Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Found this the other day- may be of interest! Any more updates...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 That photo looks to be from about 1996, as the advert above the staff accomodation on Platform 4/5 has a Scotsman advertI have a similar photo with 47642 with a Glasgow Miles Better advertHowever, for my own layout I already have 26007 in TPG Coal liveryI am just waiting for the Farish Mark 2A coaches in Blue / Grey livery to be released Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian b Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 It was actually in Feb 1990! Have you got a layout topic set up for your n-gauge version? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iankemp Posted March 30, 2013 Share Posted March 30, 2013 Shame no one has done the ORIGINAL layout of Glasgow Queen Street with the carriage sidings and also between platform 2 & 3 there was 3 tracks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjkerr Posted March 31, 2013 Share Posted March 31, 2013 It was actually in Feb 1990! Have you got a layout topic set up for your n-gauge version? No, as I have a rather long topic on another forum (specialist N gauge), a website, and a Facebook page I am trying to avoid duplication across numerous forums Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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