RMweb Premium corneliuslundie Posted November 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2017 Come on you lot. No-one has given a blow by blow account of the NCB hoppers in C5918. Seriously, I am sure if you painted your hoppers that colour you would be told it was wrong. Jonathan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 17, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 17, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Swayfield photo's. It is great to see all those Deltics running at speed on those ECML expresses. Regarding the names and numbers, I think the last is probably as captioned as 9015, Tulyar. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Swayfield at its finest. Never noticed that catch point on the down fast before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium cctransuk Posted November 17, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 17, 2017 Come on you lot. No-one has given a blow by blow account of the NCB hoppers in C5918. Seriously, I am sure if you painted your hoppers that colour you would be told it was wrong. Jonathan Why - in bright, low sunlight - that's how they appeared. More to the point - what's that BR hopper with the 'boxed' data panel doing in the middle of that NCB rake? Regards, John Isherwood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porcy Mane Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) Excellent pictures David, what were the tunnels at seaham harbour? The beach railway ran to Bessie's Hole and was used for taking sand to Candlishes Bottle Works. Bits of the raised railway can still be seen around the Featherbed area. Most of it would be submerged at high water. Latterly it was used for maintainence of of the north pier around Red Acre point. It can be seen on this map. https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/442991/549871/12/101064 P Edited November 17, 2017 by Porcy Mane 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Just to go back to 40106, always preferred it in scruffy green rather than the repaint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35A Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 A quintet of Deltics at Swayfield today. You can enjoy deciding whether I have the numbers right and also trying to identify the two for which I don't have a number. I pretty certain that C1164 is 9021 again - big nameplate and the clips on the cab roof where the horns originally were. 21 was recorded on 1N10 on Saturday 18th November 1972 (courtesy of The Chronicles of Napier). C1165 is one of the other three Haymarket locos, with a slightly smaller plate - so either 9006, 9010 or 9019. 9006, however, was only in traffic for the first six days of November 1972. Given the shape of the plate and the arrangement of the lettering, my immediate thought was that it was 9010. Assuming that it was taken on the same day as C1164, checking The Chronicles of Napier does not give any reported workings for 10 on that day (until now?). 9019, however, was reported on 1A04 (the 07:30 ex-Leeds) and so couldn't have been on 1E01. So, I would suggest that C1164 is probably 9021 and C1165 is probably 9010, if the date seems right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Western Glory Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 From the nameplates, C1164 is 9021 without doubt and C1165 cannot be 9006 nor 9019. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidBird Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 The beach railway ran to Bessie's Hole and was used for taking sand to Candlishes Bottle Works. Bits of the raised railway can still be seen around the Featherbed area. Most of it would be submerged at high water. Latterly it was used for maintainence of of the north pier around Red Acre point. It can be seen on this map. https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/442991/549871/12/101064 P That is the only example of a tidal railway that I've ever heard of. Is it the only one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waraqah Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 That is the only example of a tidal railway that I've ever heard of. Is it the only one? GW mainline at Dawlish? :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold stovepipe Posted November 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) The beach railway ran to Bessie's Hole and was used for taking sand to Candlishes Bottle Works. Bits of the raised railway can still be seen around the Featherbed area. Most of it would be submerged at high water. Latterly it was used for maintainence of of the north pier around Red Acre point. It can be seen on this map. https://www.old-maps.co.uk/#/Map/442991/549871/12/101064 P Remains of the track bed in this old photo by the look of it. http://east-durham.co.uk/wp/wp-content/gallery/beaches/BE-009.jpg and one from the other side of Featherbed Rocks http://east-durham.co.uk/wp/wp-content/gallery/beaches/BE-020.jpg Edited November 18, 2017 by stovepipe 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 What about the line that ran to Spurn Head? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 18, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) Another Scottish miscellany for today's photos. Vert often when either Dad or I visited Scotland we would only spend a day or so in each place so we could get to the far north and west (both of us don't/didn't just like railways). This means that for a lot of locations there will only be one or two photos, taken while travelling from one place to another. Of course sometimes there wasn't even a train to photograph. Indeed sometimes there wasn't any track left either. Moulineam crossing Class 26 Glasgow QS to Inverness Aug 73 J3278 Nairn bridge over A96 Aug 74 J3913 North Water Bridge over River Esk NBR Bervie branch Aug 74 J3927 Montrose Class 47 Aberdeen to London Aug 74 J3928 Munlochy Fortrose branch Aug 74 J3946 David Edited November 18, 2017 by DaveF 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 18, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Scottish photos. In particular, J3927 of North Water Bridge over the River Esk on the ex NBR Bervie branch. It would make a great model. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Johnster Posted November 19, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2017 That is the only example of a tidal railway that I've ever heard of. Is it the only one? The flyunder beneath the SWML on the up Swansea District line at Briton Ferry used to be below high water level on spring tides, and would frequently flood; one had to divert through Briton Ferry yard. There may be other examples in low lying coastal areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted November 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2017 Are you sure J3928 is not a steam engIne? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 19, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) The first set for today, somewhat late as I fell asleep after lunch - I seem to have a virus which although improving has left me feeling very weak and incredibly tired. Anyway, here is a set of photos from the Foxfield Railway taken in 1975 and 1976. . Dilhorne RSH 0-4-0CT Roker 28th Sept 75 C2450 Dilhorne Platform Bagnall Hawarden Platform Bagnall Hawarden Dilhorne to Cash Heath Wharf 28th Sept 75 C2464 Dilhorne Avonside Robert July 76 C2893 Dilhorne Avonside Cranford July 76 C2895 Blyth Bridge Exchange sidings Bagnall Hawarden July 76 C2906 Caverswall Road LC Bagnall Hawarden July 76 C2917 David Edited November 22, 2017 by DaveF 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted November 19, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2017 .......Followed very quickly by some at Bottesford on the Grantham to Nottingham line, taken in 1982 and 1983. Bottesford Class 105 Nottingham to Skegness Aug 82 C5854 Bottesford 20159 and ano Leicester to Skegness June 83 C6060 Bottesford Class 114 Grantham to Nottingham and Class 47 47453 Glasgow and Edinburgh to Parkeston Quay July 83 C6108 Bottesford 20172 and ano Leicester to Skegness Aug 83 C6155 Bottesford Class 105 Nottingham to Grantham Aug 83 C6166 David 30 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flapland Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Thanks again David your daily treats. I hope you budge the virus quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted November 19, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2017 Hi, Dave. I hope you will get well soon. I’ve just finished having a bad cold and a gum infection. The Foxfield Railway photos are great, and there was quite a lot to be done on various locos and stock at the time the photos were taken. The Bottesford photos are so nostalgic. The DMU in the first one was a combination that was often to be seen at that time, and it was a Cravens and a Derby ‘Heavyweight ‘ which was involved in the fatal Lockington accident. The two Class 20’s in C6155, with 20172 leading, make a magnificent sight. Will that be your Father in the last photo? With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted November 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) C6108 is interesting for showing the window bars in the guards van of the Mk2 a/c coach - I don't know if it's a feature that's modelled much, unlike the more usual vertical bars on Mk1s. Looks like the coach has been re-allocated judging by the rather 'home made' SC prefix! Edited November 19, 2017 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) Blowing up the picture, I think the running number is 14156, although it could be 14166. According to Longworth's Mk1 and Mk2 book, BFK 14156 was originally an Eastern Region coach into service 11/71. It was transferred to Scotland 7/79, then to LMR in 11/79, then back to ER 5/81. In 11/83 it was renumbered 17156 and transferred back to LMR. 14166 was into service in 1972 on LMR, transferred to WR 7/82 and to ScR 10/82. it was renumbered Sc17166 5/84. Edited November 19, 2017 by talisman56 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted November 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 19, 2017 Blowing up the picture, I think the running number is 14156, although it could be 14166. According to Longworth's Mk1 and Mk2 book, BFK 14156 was originally an Eastern Region coach into service 11/71. It was transferred to Scotland 7/79, then to LMR in 11/79, then back to ER 5/81. In 11/83 it was renumbered 17156 and transferred back to LMR. 14166 was into service in 1972 on LMR, transferred to WR 7/82 and to ScR 10/82. it was renumbered Sc17166 5/84. Zooming in I reckon that is 14166 which as 17166 was a Polmadie vehicle in 86. I would also question the loco being 47453, it might well be 47463. Cracking images as usual... Dave Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phil Bullock Posted November 19, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2017 Thanks for more super photos Dave - but please take it easy, tricky things viruses! Phil Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted November 19, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 19, 2017 Hi, Dave. I hope you will get well soon. I’ve just finished having a bad cold and a gum infection. The Foxfield Railway photos are great, and there was quite a lot to be done on various locos and stock at the time the photos were taken. The Bottesford photos are so nostalgic. The DMU in the first one was a combination that was often to be seen at that time, and it was a Cravens and a Derby ‘Heavyweight ‘ which was involved in the fatal Lockington accident. The two Class 20’s in C6155, with 20172 leading, make a magnificent sight. Will that be your Father in the last photo? With warmest regards, Rob. Yes, it is Dad. At the time he was just starting to walk around a bit after quite a serious heart attack. Later he had heart surgery - I think it was about 7 bypasses - at the Freeman Hospital in Newcastle and lived until 2005. Zooming in I reckon that is 14166 which as 17166 was a Polmadie vehicle in 86. I would also question the loco being 47453, it might well be 47463. Cracking images as usual... Dave You could well be right about the loco number, I can convince myself that both 47453 and 47463 are correct! I went with 47453 as that is what I wrote down on the day, but it is very easy to get it wrong when trying to take a photo and read the number. Thanks too for the coach identification. David Blowing up the picture, I think the running number is 14156, although it could be 14166. According to Longworth's Mk1 and Mk2 book, BFK 14156 was originally an Eastern Region coach into service 11/71. It was transferred to Scotland 7/79, then to LMR in 11/79, then back to ER 5/81. In 11/83 it was renumbered 17156 and transferred back to LMR. 14166 was into service in 1972 on LMR, transferred to WR 7/82 and to ScR 10/82. it was renumbered Sc17166 5/84. Thanks very much for your work on the coach identification. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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