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Nothing to do with the month that it was printed ?? (Just asking, not knowledgeable about the H&BR.)

Explanation of above reaction .....I've just spent £350 this week alone on new items that have come in....I was hoping for a little respite before the 31s arrived !

The chaps at Frizinghall M&R say thankyou for your photographic observation ..... they wondered which poor unsuspecting customer they were going to sell that last Farish Sealink BSK to !!

The Leeds MRS guys seem to be mainly using Turbo-cad v.15 or Auto-cad LT but these are not free and have been sourced via their various businesses. My main problem is me as I'm a bit of a computer dinosaur these days, quite capable of using them but hate them with a passion, so don't ..... however creating something useful like etched kits might just bring me back into the fold. (Hmmmm.) Thanks, Ian.

Do you reckon that the Sealink coach in the GQS photo is a 1/2 brake, Rob ?

I'm in a similar position to Jerry; being an allegedly mainly 3mm modeller I would like to be able to produce some items in the future for myself that would maybe be of interest to others. 3D is not for me at the moment. I do know several people (including Mike Edge) in the LMRS who produce their own artwork for etches, I'll pose the question to them on our What's Ap group and see what comes back. Please give a 'nod, nudge and a wink' on here if you start a new thread as I don't seem to receive notifications for new threads in certain topics any more since the last 'upgrade' ....I've tried adjusting my settings. Regards, Ian.

Also noted on Kernow's site last night.

But.......you've ended up with a train with your own stamp on it, which is much more interesting and satisfying than just opening a new box and sticking it on the track IMHO. Thanks for letting us in on the build process which I found very enjoyable and interesting to follow. Regards, Ian.

I've often wondered about what sort of issues the visibly short headshunt caused (causes) to the Crianlarich shed area sidings but I've never witnessed any movement into or out of the yard, maybe not an issue for some of the track maintenence machines that are used but I would have thought it very limiting when using a class 37 and p.way type wagons. I have photos of things like Salmons but IIRC they are always in the 'general' goods sidings at the other side of the station. (Edit - have just looked at your photos again and realised that you are shunting into the 'general' goods sidings which I thought had a much longer headshunt.....but appreciate that you have probably had to compromise on space available.) (I really must scan my slides sometime.)

Whilst I managed just a few class 37 journeys on the WHL I, also, was too late for the 25s and 27s. The nearest I can get to what I imagine it was like is now on the K&WVR diesel days behind either 25 059, 37 075 or a guest 26, 27 or 37 where because of the nature of the way the line twists and turns it's way up the valley and particularly during the climb out of Keighley .....if you close your eyes, or at least squint a bit, you could almost be climbing up to Glen Douglas ! Only lasts for 25 mins or so .....but if you buy a day rover you can do it all again !!

Back in 1995 I started a job as a printing machine demonstrator and one of my first installations was in Belfast. I remember hearing the thunderous roar of a diesel engine one evening whilst out having a stroll ....only to be "thoroughly disappointed" when this silver and blue unit appeared ! I had not at this time come to appreciate the sounds and sights of a thumper, or even our own first generation DMUs. I didn't take any photos at the time or make much of an attempt to find out what they were until I was long back home .....what a silly, silly man I was ! So, thankyou Jamie, I'm loving the Northern Irish photos.....and I can still hear that distant thumping in my head. Regards, Ian.

Obviously I'm only quoting the article, the full description for this coach in the system devised by Russ Garner for depicting train formations is : "(T043) S&DJR 30ft-3in 6 wheel first. Configuration (1.1.1.1). Built or converted at Highbridge with low arc roof , flat ends and having a 10ft +10ft wheelbase. Known numbers are 2, with turn under ends, 4,5 and 7. Currently no kit exists for this type" .....(followed by extra info regarding kit manufacture of turn-under ends and flat ended versions.) Would the difference in ends account for the difference of 9" ? There is an extra note that the flat ended version would be identical to No.4 at Washford. ....anybody got a tape measure ? regards, Ian.

The train formation information for the ca.1922 Wellow photo mentioned in the earlier post is courtesy of the Russ Garner articles in the S&DRT Pines Express magazines, No.s 225 and 229. Loco : S&DJR No.54 (the 2nd one - exMR 1305) "possibly" in Midland red livery with S&DJR legend. LSWR 16' horsebox (body drawing 637 on underframe drawing 730 (with skew brake gear.)) S&DJR 30' 6 whl passenger brake van with low arc roof. S&DJR 31' 6 whl 3rd built by Oldbury with high arc roof or similar built by Cravens later. S&DJR 30'3" 6 whl 1st with Highbridge low arc roof and flat ends. S&DJR 30' 6 whl 3rd (as above except with destination brackets in a different position.) S&DJR 30' 6 whl 3rd (as 2nd coach above.) S&DJR 30' 6 whl PBV (as 1st coach above but with low ducket.) regards, Ian.

Like the road/rail crane on the Warwell, I did consider suggesting putting an army green bulldozer on when you were first asking for vehicle suggestions but I didn't know if there was anything available....maybe you have something already tucked away ?

The photo of the S&DJR coach also appears in one of the Trust mags but the caption says from The Lens of Sutton collection, so may be more readily available (?)

Still a work in progress looking for this 'supposed' article in S&DRT mags...but..... I have just remembered about a 13pp article in Steam Days (April 2012) titled 'The Glastonbury to Wells Branch' which has 2 photos of 58047 and a single coach (depicting both sides, loco has BR s/box number but LMS legend.) Photo 1 (1949) credited to Don Powell Collection and photo 2 (undated) to W.A. Camwell. Not being a coach expert (I rely heavily on you !) and looking at the roof profiles and number of compartments I would say that they are of 2 different coaches. One has a flatter roof, 5 comps + 2 windowed guard section whilst the other has a more rounded roof, 6 comps +3 windowed guard section. There is another distant shot of an LMS train approaching Wells .... loco, coach (windowed for full length), possibly an SR parcel van and another van at the rear. The best (in my opinion) for last ....is that there is a very good photo of a S&DJR push and pull coach (4 end windows and 2 vac type pipes) at Wells taken from the shady side looking into the station. 3/4 of the coach is outside of the trainshed, great end detail, loco behind and sandwiched with a bogie van (coach) and 6 wheel van behind. (Authors collection (Colin Maggs.)) This is possibly the article that I was thinking of but I will keep looking through the S&DRT mags, having drawn a blank so far. These mags and articles have been gathered in attempts to find photos of 0-4-4t loco No.12 which will probably be my next S&DJR loco modelling project. Regards, Ian.

The photo appears in an article(s) regarding train formations and so is quite descriptive, I'll PM you later with more info, so as not to hijack Jerry's thread. Regards, Ian.

Whilst looking through old Pines Express magazines for something else (for Compound) I've just found a photo of an LSWR 16' Horsebox in a southbound (ie from Bath) passenger train at Wellow ca.1922. The photo appears on p.10 of Pines Express No.229 and shows S&DJR 0-4-4t No.54, LSWR horsebox and 6 S&DJR coaches; it is suggested that the loco being ex.MR 1305 is possibly still in Midland red livery but with S&DJR lettering. The photo is credited as being courtesy of the NRM (LGRP 3691) if that is of any help. Regards, Ian.

I've got a couple of books to hand at the moment regarding the Bridgewater branch and I'm sure that there was an article in an old S&DRT magazine regarding the Wells branch train which I will try and find (probably won't be until the w/end though) .....I'll report back if I find anything of note. Regards, Ian.

Excellent timing Dave, I was only just thinking about modelling this particular train earlier this afternoon as I was making plans for a 1980's Holbeck style N gauge cameo layout. I have some photo's that I took at the time of some of the wagons, although I seem to remember that there were at least 2 or 3 different types in the train. (Edit - as can be just made out in the first photo, j10787) Shame that I can't quite make out the loco numbers....possibly 31 156 and 31 229 ?? Regards, Ian.

I have a terminus to traverser type layout that whilst I didn't build it, I do occasionally exhibit it. It is similar to your example in being 5 roads but without the extra 'loco' section. As you can soon get through the 5 trains permitted it is my intention to replace the nearest track (to me) on the traverser with a cassette type system so that I can exchange a full train fairly easily just to help mix it up a bit. Hopefully this will give me the best of both types of system when exhibiting and not wanting to keep the paying public too long before the next train appears, especially if operating solo. I realise that this doesn't really solve your main issue regarding loco turning but it may be another consideration you may wish to think about. Regards, Ian.

Some very classy photos there, Dave. Whilst I like DMU's anyway from this era you've captured them perfectly in the shots of the 114s. Thanks for sharing them with us. Regards, Ian.

For those interested in the de Havilland aircraft and company this months (Oct) Aeroplane mag has a special edition mainly devoted to the subject .....looks interesting so far....but can't see any photos of planes in transit though.

The livery looks all the better for the weathering, not quite so garish as first feared.

Well Jerry, I for one will be checking very carefully to make sure that you don't 'accidentally' slip an extra 'U' into this paintscheme should you decide to model it during Sat night MotD.....if so, I may have to paint a Fokker Triplane up in White, Yellow and Blue livery to hunt yours down, I wonder what their range would have been from Elland Road ?