micklner Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 DJH D20 (dusty) Tender appear to be all ok re line up. Shame 52F version is out of stock, any e.t.a for them please ? 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pebbles Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 13 minutes ago, micklner said: DJH D20 (dusty) Tender appear to be all ok re line up. Shame 52F version is out of stock, any e.t.a for them please ? Sorry, but I don't recall the DJH D20 ever having "D" shaped cut outs in the tender framing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
micklner Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pebbles said: Sorry, but I don't recall the DJH D20 ever having "D" shaped cut outs in the tender framing. Thats is what the secondhand DJH kit came supplied with about ten years ago. No idea of their providence, I presume the Tender is DJH . Edited March 14, 2023 by micklner 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 14, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, micklner said: any e.t.a for them please ? Hi Mick, Yes around two weeks from order. I did not order because I would like to complete ASAP and besides I started this as a budget build although the underframe kit for 52F is very reasonably priced. Kind regards, Richard B Edited March 15, 2023 by 30368 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 15, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) Front buffer beam suitably upgraded with 5 thou brass sheet. I have since adjusted the bracket securing the vacuum stand pipe to the buffer beam! The buffer beam is now in position. Loco almost complete. Kind regards, Richard B Edited March 15, 2023 by 30368 12 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 18, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) A brief diversion as I continue to work on the B16 tender. Phil (Mallard60022) has given me a Hornby N15 (30737) King Uther in exchange I will complete his part built DJH H15 kit. I completed a Wills Arthur kit as 30755 The Red Knight a while ago so I thought a few snapshots of both running on my layout might be good. 737 clanks past the shed. And continues ready to make its stop at Basingstoke. LSWR Cross Country set behind. King meets Knight. Kind regards, Richard B Edited March 18, 2023 by 30368 12 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 19, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2023 On 18/03/2023 at 12:52, 30368 said: A brief diversion as I continue to work on the B16 tender. Phil (Mallard60022) has given me a Hornby N15 (30737) King Uther in exchange I will complete his part built DJH H15 kit. I completed a Wills Arthur kit as 30755 The Red Knight a while ago so I thought a few snapshots of both running on my layout might be good. 737 clanks past the shed. And continues ready to make its stop at Basingstoke. LSWR Cross Country set behind. King meets Knight. Kind regards, Richard B Ooooooof. Both look very smart. Now then, I've found my part completed Finecast Arthur whilst looking for the H15. I've found a spare set of Arthur Wheels and a Watercart Tender Kit as well (why have I got these things?) There could be a future for those piles of metal now then? A discussion is deffo required! Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 19, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: A discussion is deffo required! Happy to do so so long as no real money changes hands, like the exchange set up. I promised myself that I would never charge for finishing or building the odd loco for a club. Kind regards, Richard B Edited March 19, 2023 by 30368 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 20, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 20, 2023 One more SR picture and then a tender update. DJH Tender is not that great and needs some work to get it closer to prototype. Perhaps at a later date I will look out for a brass kit of a Late Pattern NER 4,125 gall. tender. Kind regards, Richard B 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 22, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 22, 2023 Tender now complete and united with locomotive. Next stage will be weathering and cleaning back. Kind regards, Richard B 8 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 23, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 23, 2023 61412 now weathered and I will move on to completing Phil's H15 4-6-0. Final images follow. Kind regards, Richard B 7 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 24, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2023 And now... back to the SR. I have just started work on Phil's H15 as mentioned above. Phil has made a very, very good job of the body and chassis and the motor still runs Phil.. Valve gear riveted together however the union link will be set screwed to the crosshead and the two valvegear halves set screwed together at the motion plate. Kind regards, Richard B 8 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted March 24, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 24, 2023 Looks great. Do they not have a drop link? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 25, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Blandford1969 said: Looks great. Do they not have a drop link? Hi, Yes they do - fitted to the crosshead - in the middle picture. Kind regards, Richard B 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted March 25, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 25, 2023 On 23/03/2023 at 12:45, 30368 said: 61412 now weathered and I will move on to completing Phil's H15 4-6-0. Final images follow. Kind regards, Richard B Looks very good that R. That Clive Morty knows a thing or two about alternative Tenders. Thanks for your pics of my 'lump' by the way. Not touched it since 2019. Covid should have seen it completed...nah! Phil 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 26, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 26, 2023 (edited) Valve gear update. The drivers side is all fitted and works very well with no stiction. Must of got all the clearances correct. Ready to solder the return crank to the crankpin (but not connecting and coupling rod!) Motion plate needs cleaning up. Kind regards, Richard B Edited March 26, 2023 by 30368 10 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 29, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) Very busy day on other matters so only did a little work today. The Urie and SR version of the Urie H15 all had the same brake gear set up. Two opposing brake levers between the middle and trailing drivers and the third lever operating on the front of the leading wheel. I found that a Mainly Trains LNER express engine etch was the best match, the levers are quite short. I did try to fit the leading brake lever but this proved impossible without fouling the bogie wheels so I have not fitted it. It is very hard to see anyway... Kind regards, Richard B Edited March 29, 2023 by 30368 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gz3xzf Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Wow the brake gear under the real loco must have been complicated, to get a decent pull on the middle driver would have required a number of levers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 29, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, gz3xzf said: Wow the brake gear under the real loco must have been complicated You are right Bryan. It is very complicated. If you have access to Peter Swift's The Book of the H125 and S15 4-6-0s take a look at the plan view on page 14. It has a copy of the GA. Too tricky to model in 4mm! Kind regards, Richard B Edited March 29, 2023 by 30368 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium DLT Posted March 31, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2023 Hi Richard, I always simplify the internal brakegear. You can't see it when the loco is on the layout, and you can give it some stronger structural integrity. What is often supplied in kits is so flimsy as to be unusable. In the words of Basil Fawlty; "Rapid movement of air could harm it irreparably"... As others have said, you are making really good jobs of some particularly awkward kits. All the best, Dave. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 31, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2023 31 minutes ago, DLT said: As others have said, you are making really good jobs of some particularly awkward kits. Hi Dave, Many thanks, praise from the praiseworthy (Aragorn?) is always most valuable. Agree re brakegear - my earlier efforts had been hampered by giving brakegear a slight priority over, say, pickups! Now that I have a layout under construction pickups have the highest priority! All part of the journey that, I hope, will go on for many years yet. Kind regards, Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted March 31, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted March 31, 2023 I continue to run in the chassis on the LSWR main line just outside 70D. I am concerned that the meshing of the worm and the idler gear needs to be checked. This will require some dismantling of Phil's work. The chassis runs perfectly in reverse but stutters in forward, it starts to move and then stops. In my experience this is often due to problems with meshing. Wizzing away in reverse. Some detail improvements to the DJH chassis - the motion plate rear support, poor image sorry. Adding a black plasticard frame covering the gap in the DJH frame where the motor would have sat. I have also added the bracket that supports the running plate. Kind regards, Richard B 10 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted April 1, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) Having made some adjustments to the mesh the chassis now runs well in forward and reverse. I have removed the N15 style pipework feeds to the boiler clack valves and replaced with CVs and feed pipes that are accurate for the H15. I have fitted the very small splashers fitted to this design. The reversing lever has also been repostioned and other detail added. Next will be the footsteps and injector pipework under the cab. Wizzing away in forward gear. Woops! someone has bent the top lamp iron.... Kind regards, Richard B Edited April 1, 2023 by 30368 10 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted April 1, 2023 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 1, 2023 1 hour ago, 30368 said: Having made some adjustments to the mesh the chassis now runs well in forward and reverse. I have removed the N15 style pipework feeds to the boiler clack valves and replaced with CVs and feed pipes that are accurate for the H15. I have fitted the very small splashers fitted to this design. The reversing lever has also been repostioned and other detail added. Next will be the footsteps and injector pipework under the cab. Wizzing away in forward gear. Woops! someone has bent the top lamp iron.... Kind regards, Richard B Blimey Richard, what a difference that has made. Your extra knowledge of this Class and also your research, has brought it into a different league. Thank you. Phil 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium 30368 Posted April 1, 2023 Author RMweb Premium Share Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mallard60022 said: Blimey Richard, what a difference that has made Many thanks Phil, I was a little concerned about disturbing your work but it was, I think, worth the extra effort. I will probably be painting the wee beasty next week. Kind regards, Richard B Edited April 1, 2023 by 30368 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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