RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 24, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 24, 2022 5 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Visiting the trainspotting branch of Waitrose in Tilehurst yesterday I can confirm from what I saw there that three passenger trains would have passed through Pangbourne in a matter of only a few minutes - one on each running line except for the Up Relief. That of course was on a strike day when far fewer trains than normal were running. Yesterday afternoon there was a point when there were 4 Avanti WC trains plus a freight going to DIRFT, trying to use Rugby southbound. Platform 6 had something parked up (light engine?). Platform 4 had an Avanti train that terminated there. Platform 5 had an Avanti train stopping on it's way to Euston. There were two more Avanti Trains and a freight waiting on the US for access. Made the place look super busy for a short while. 10 mins later it was quiet again. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JN Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 17 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Visiting the trainspotting branch of Waitrose in Tilehurst yesterday I can confirm from what I saw there that three passenger trains would have passed through Pangbourne in a matter of only a few minutes - one on each running line except for the Up Relief. That of course was on a strike day when far fewer trains than normal were running. I would have thought this is a common sight is what I meant to write. I saw there that three passenger trains would have passed through is a bit confusing unless you are citing Schrodinger's train. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 25, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 25, 2022 13 hours ago, JN said: I would have thought this is a common sight is what I meant to write. I saw there that three passenger trains would have passed through is a bit confusing unless you are citing Schrodinger's train. Of course it isn't confusing! 'I saw three passenger trains' - a statement of fact because I did see three passenger trains. I said where I was when I saw them so the geography is clearly established. And those trains would have passed through Pangbourne in a matter of minutes - a simple fact of geography and the route of the railway and trains speed. So hardly Schrodinger's train or trains but actually GWR's and Cross Country's. I rest my case on proper usage of the English language - however as Schrodinger was Austrian i do accepth that, perhaps, he might have had some difficulty with English. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 25, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 25, 2022 4 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Of course it isn't confusing! 'I saw three passenger trains' - a statement of fact because I did see three passenger trains. I said where I was when I saw them so the geography is clearly established. And those trains would have passed through Pangbourne in a matter of minutes - a simple fact of geography and the route of the railway and trains speed. So hardly Schrodinger's train or trains but actually GWR's and Cross Country's. I rest my case on proper usage of the English language - however as Schrodinger was Austrian i do accepth that, perhaps, he might have had some difficulty with English. But does Pangbourne have a cat?😄 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JN Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 7 hours ago, The Stationmaster said: Of course it isn't confusing! 'I saw three passenger trains' - a statement of fact because I did see three passenger trains. I said where I was when I saw them so the geography is clearly established. And those trains would have passed through Pangbourne in a matter of minutes - a simple fact of geography and the route of the railway and trains speed. So hardly Schrodinger's train or trains but actually GWR's and Cross Country's. I rest my case on proper usage of the English language - however as Schrodinger was Austrian i do accepth that, perhaps, he might have had some difficulty with English. Sorry for the misunderstanding. The sentence structure seemed odd to me. Never mind. I should have explained, further that railways normally have gaps in traffic for commercial and safety reasons. His shutter speed was what, 1/125. I am sure less than 100th of a second of totally empty track would happen on the busiest of days. The maximum optimal distance between trains is about five minutes at line speed (more for single line workings). I thought the point of this thread was to show something unusual and the photograph was not of something unusual to me. I have obviously misunderstood something again, so I will apologise for the misunderstanding. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEdwardII Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 7 hours ago, melmerby said: does Pangbourne have a cat? Yes, but way too many of them - too hard on the brain to work out the odds of them being alive or dead... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 26, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 26, 2022 12 hours ago, melmerby said: But does Pangbourne have a cat?😄 Probably although I can't recall seeing one as I've passed through. however for a small place it has an excellent butcher, a good ironmonger (hardware shop for younger readers), a branch of WHS, a Co-op, a sometimes reasonably priced (in general terms ) petrol station, and some excellent restaurants/eateries. Plus of course a wide variety of frequent trains including proper ones with locos hauling them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Ian Morgan Posted June 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2022 Perhaps we need a new thread/topic 'Railways without Trains'? Here is one from the 1980's: 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Saunders Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Ian Morgan said: Perhaps we need a new thread/topic 'Railways without Trains'? Here is one from the 1980's: Is this the Railtrack advert that had to show no trains just incase any purchasers of shares though the would get any with their purchase! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted June 26, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 26, 2022 6 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: Is this the Railtrack advert that had to show no trains just incase any purchasers of shares though the would get any with their purchase! That reminds me of the nonsense of the all line timetable that could not show a train on the cover to avoid being seen as favouring a TOC so showed empty tracks instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hodgson Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 1 hour ago, brushman47544 said: That reminds me of the nonsense of the all line timetable that could not show a train on the cover to avoid being seen as favouring a TOC so showed empty tracks instead. The easy solution to that is to show something else that would be instantly recognised, such as the Forth Bridge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 .... as shown on the cover of the December 2004 to June 2005 edition ................................................... which happens to be the example I dusted off an hour ago ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 On 25/06/2022 at 05:40, JN said: I saw there that three passenger trains would have passed through is a bit confusing unless you are citing Schrodinger's train. Some say Schrodinger's version might have been: I saw there that three passenger trains could have passed through Whether they would (or not) remains a Paradox of life on Network Rail (until we open the revised timetable). On 25/06/2022 at 19:11, The Stationmaster said: Of course it isn't confusing! 'I saw three passenger trains' - a statement of fact because I did see three passenger trains. In a Stationmaster universe, everything is what it should (or would) mean. Or once meant, before something else happened, or we boldy go at BR warp speed into another topic. We might all, however, reasonably conclude (without fear of toys being thrown out the train or anyone having a hissy fit) that parsing syntax was not a part of the normal GWR / BR(W) training regime. 😋 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leopardml2341 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 23 hours ago, Mark Saunders said: Is this the Railtrack advert that had to show no trains just incase any purchasers of shares though the would get any with their purchase! 16 hours ago, brushman47544 said: That reminds me of the nonsense of the all line timetable that could not show a train on the cover to avoid being seen as favouring a TOC so showed empty tracks instead. 15 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: The easy solution to that is to show something else that would be instantly recognised, such as the Forth Bridge. The better solution would have been a single operator railway - no favoured train operators then. #justsayin 😀 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEdwardII Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 13 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: I saw there that three passenger trains could have passed through In Schroedinger's world, once you look, things crystallise and either did or did not happen. It's only while you don't look inside the box that his cat hangs weirdly between the two states of alive and dead. So, while you're still standing on the platform, your train may or may not arrive. If you go and look, the train will decide to be an hour late - or not. But at least you know... Yours, Mike. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithMacdonald Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 17 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: The easy solution to that is to show something else that would be instantly recognised, such as the Forth Bridge. Better that than the Tay Bridge (cue William McGonagall) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted June 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2022 18 hours ago, Michael Hodgson said: The easy solution to that is to show something else that would be instantly recognised, such as the Forth Bridge. That would have shown an anti-English bias 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 27, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 27, 2022 2 hours ago, The Pilotman said: That would have shown an anti-English bias Maybe a view inside the Severn Tunnel would have been slightly more inclusive although it would probably have upset the Scots. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: Maybe a view inside the Severn Tunnel would have been slightly more inclusive although it would probably have upset the Scots. But we're not including a train in the view so it'll be pitch black ................. could be anywhere ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted June 28, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted June 28, 2022 18 hours ago, Wickham Green too said: But we're not including a train in the view so it'll be pitch black ................. could be anywhere ! Nah - as the photographer would be there with the Tunnel gang they would have their Tilley lamps lit so it wouldn't be all that dark. In fact when i went down there I was surprised how light it was with all the various lamps lit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southernman46 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 On 26/06/2022 at 12:16, Ian Morgan said: Perhaps we need a new thread/topic 'Railways without Trains'? Here is one from the 1980's: Oh yes - I've trudged along that particular bit of lonely road a few times ............................. 😉 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted June 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2022 This past weekend the Somerset & Dorset Burnam & Evercreech Branch had more people on it than when there were trains.......... https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=51.15049&lon=-2.58637&layers=168&b=1 For those not in the know it's Worthy Farm: 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pH Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 On 26/06/2022 at 11:52, Michael Hodgson said: The easy solution to that is to show something else that would be instantly recognised, such as the Forth Bridge. On 27/06/2022 at 05:57, The Pilotman said: That would have shown an anti-English bias Not so - the bridge was originally 70% owned by English railways. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
montyburns56 Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 Litchurch Lane carriage works by Merfyn Jones 15 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted June 28, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted June 28, 2022 Pity there wasn't a white/blue DMU and a grey/blue Pullman, that would've covered most 'blue' liveries in one train! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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