RMweb Premium keefer Posted September 12, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 12, 2017 (edited) C1723 it may be possible to ID the SK It has single bolster bogies and while not unique, I don't think there were very many. There may be details in Parkin or the BR LHCS Yahoo group Edited September 12, 2017 by keefer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 12, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 12, 2017 Hi, Dave. What a great set of photos of Peterborough. And what a contrast with Gilbert's lovely layout of how it was in 1958. The class 40 makes a fine sight in C1723, and what a great sight the Deltic makes in the next photo. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Endacott Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Visits to Peterborough in the 1970s for today, when everything was blue and grey. Including the sky! Geoff Endacott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 13, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Today we visit Southside on the ECML in NOrthumberland, SOUTH OF WARKWORTH It is the site of the junction of the former line to WHITTLE Colliery. Southside 254003 up Aug 80 C5159 Southside Class 45 up Aug 80 C5161 Southside 37154 down tanks April 81 C5327 Southside Class 101 Newcastle to Alnmouth Nov 82 C5876 Southside Class 47 47401 up ballast 24th June 85 C 6964 Edited to correct where the junction is and the colliery it served. I've only lived in Northumberland for 37 years, so I ought to know it well. David Edited September 13, 2017 by DaveF 35 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 It is actually quite difficult to find the junction on Googlemaps - but I think I have by what looks like the outline of a small set of sidings the other side of a field. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) According to the Durham Mining Museum the Shilbottle colliery was bottom left in this Google Earth picture (collapse the side panel) and you can see the line snaking eastwards south of High Buston to make a North facing junction with the ECML http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/s015.htm Location Map: http://www.dmm.org.uk/maps/1951n12.htm Google (pushpin shows location): https://goo.gl/maps/ytSAJRyyWdB2 However an earlier map shows a Colliery NE of Shilbottle. There were several pitheads Keith EDIT This is the location of the junction Woodenhead points out: http://maps.nls.uk/view/101028105 Which is the line to Whittle Colliery. marked with a pushpin (again collapse side panel): https://goo.gl/maps/XoLHbFVFwow Edited September 13, 2017 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
railsquid Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 J1679 on the previous page - reminds me very much of some wooden pull-along trains of my childhood, albeit mid-late 70s. No idea how long they'd been in the family though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) It is actually quite difficult to find the junction on Googlemaps - but I think I have by what looks like the outline of a small set of sidings the other side of a field. Capture.PNG Too far south.......the actual junction is just North of Hipburn and still clear on Google maps. Looking at historical maps the one further south that you've screen-shot may well have been a quarry or gravel works.....*edited....looks like I've been looking at the old Alnwick junction. Apologies! As usual great photos Dave! Regards Guy Edited September 13, 2017 by balders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Too far south.......the actual junction is just North of Hipburn and still clear on Google maps. Looking at historical maps the one further south that you've screen-shot may well have been a quarry or gravel works.....*edited....looks like I've been looking at the old Alnwick junction. Apologies! As usual great photos Dave! Regards Guy See my edited posting above. (Look at the links) Keith Edited September 13, 2017 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejames Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 See my edited posting above. (Look at the links) Keith http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=55.3728&lon=-1.6301&layers=10&right=BingHyb regards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=55.3728&lon=-1.6301&layers=10&right=BingHyb regards Exactly as I posted. The line to Shilbottle Colliery with a north facing junction I Think Dave's Junction is for Whittle. Keith Edited September 13, 2017 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 So if I am correct, I've found the junction in the pictures as that is the correct orientation but it wasn't the line to Shilbottle? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 13, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) It is actually quite difficult to find the junction on Googlemaps - but I think I have by what looks like the outline of a small set of sidings the other side of a field. Capture.PNG According to the Durham Mining Museum the Shilbottle colliery was bottom left in this Google Earth picture (collapse the side panel) and you can see the line snaking eastwards south of High Buston to make a North facing junction with the ECML http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/s015.htm Location Map: http://www.dmm.org.uk/maps/1951n12.htm Google (pushpin shows location): https://goo.gl/maps/ytSAJRyyWdB2 However an earlier map shows a Colliery NE of Shilbottle. There were several pitheads Keith EDIT This is the location of the junction Woodenhead points out: http://maps.nls.uk/view/101028105 Which is the line to Whittle Colliery. marked with a pushpin (again collapse side panel): https://goo.gl/maps/XoLHbFVFwow Too far south.......the actual junction is just North of Hipburn and still clear on Google maps. Looking at historical maps the one further south that you've screen-shot may well have been a quarry or gravel works.....*edited....looks like I've been looking at the old Alnwick junction. Apologies! As usual great photos Dave! Regards Guy See my edited posting above. (Look at the links) Keith http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=55.3728&lon=-1.6301&layers=10&right=BingHyb regards My apologies to everyone, I meant to type that Southsisde is SOUTH of Warkworth, not north. That will have confused you all, except those who know the area very well. Woodenhead's post shows the correct site of the junction. Obviously it is the junction for Whittle colliery, not Shilbottle. The next junction north, at High Buston/Wooden Gates was the south facing junction to Shilbottle colliery. The junction for Alnwick was immediately north of Alnmouth station. As I've now said above, I've only lived in Northumberland for 37 years so I should have got it right. Original post is now corrected. David Edited September 13, 2017 by DaveF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
balders Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=15&lat=55.3728&lon=-1.6301&layers=10&right=BingHyb regards Many thanks. What a great resource. Shows how alignments of old railways can be almost totally obliterated. Regards Guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 My apologies to everyone, I meant to type that Southsisde is SOUTH of Warkworth, not north. That will have confused you all, except those who know the area very well. Woodenhead's post shows the correct site of the junction. Obviously it is the junction for Whittle colliery, not Shilbottle. The next junction north, at High Buston/Wooden Gates was the south facing junction to Shilbottle colliery. The junction for Alnwick was immediately north of Alnmouth station. As I've now said above, I've only lived in Northumberland for 37 years so I should have got it right. Original post is now corrected. David But if you hadn't posted the pictures I wouldn't have looked at the map to see what remained of the junction, without your pictures those junctions and collieries would have lain forgotten. It's people like you and your father are keeping history alive through photographic records of a time that is quickly being, as someone else said, obliterated from memory and from the earth itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 13, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Southside photos. In C5327, you can see how well weathered 37154 is. And in C5876, it looks like the class 101 unit is just getting away from a signal check - if the rasping exhaust is anything to go by. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 13, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) My apologies to everyone, I meant to type that Southsisde is SOUTH of Warkworth, not north. That will have confused you all, except those who know the area very well. Woodenhead's post shows the correct site of the junction. Obviously it is the junction for Whittle colliery, not Shilbottle. The next junction north, at High Buston/Wooden Gates was the south facing junction to Shilbottle colliery. The junction for Alnwick was immediately north of Alnmouth station. As I've now said above, I've only lived in Northumberland for 37 years so I should have got it right. Original post is now corrected. David Hi Dave I think you might still have confused yourself! Shilbottle colliery was accessed from a North facing junction, Whittle colliery was accessed from a South facing junction a couple of miles further south which was, I guessed, the location of your photos. The mining history websites are great for locations of long lost pits and their infrastructure. I used them when living in Cumbria to get some information. Cumbria had a huge mining industry covering many of the minerals found in the UK but most of it declined earlier than other areas. Cheers Keith EDIT All these Norths and Souths is getting me confused. What I mean is a junction going North from the colliery line! Time to go and lie down methinks. Edited September 13, 2017 by melmerby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 13, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 13, 2017 Hi Dave I think you might still have confused yourself! Shilbottle colliery was accessed from a North facing junction, Whittle colliery was accessed from a South facing junction a couple of miles further south which was, I guessed, the location of your photos. The mining history websites are great for locations of long lost pits and their infrastructure. I used them when living in Cumbria to get some information. Cumbria had a huge mining industry covering many of the minerals found in the UK but most of it declined earlier than other areas. Cheers Keith Oops (again). David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Griffin Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 A few more photos from Rail150 at Shildon to start with this afternoon. Shildon S15 841 Greene King 24th Aug 75 C2314.jpg Shildon S15 841 Greene King 24th Aug 75 C2314 Can anyone tell me what happened to this loco 'Greene King'? it worked the NVR for some time and then went main line and seemed to fade into obscurity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) A few more photos from Rail150 at Shildon to start with this afternoon. Shildon S15 841 Greene King 24th Aug 75 C2314.jpg Shildon S15 841 Greene King 24th Aug 75 C2314 Can anyone tell me what happened to this loco 'Greene King'? it worked the NVR for some time and then went main line and seemed to fade into obscurity. 841 gave it's boiler to 825 and 830 has also donated parts to 825 to keep it running. Both are now long term restoration pieces stored on the NYMR. 841 might have damaged frames hence a working loco became a donor in preservation. https://www.elocomotive.co.uk/s15-locomotive Edited September 14, 2017 by woodenhead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium brushman47544 Posted September 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2017 J5542 'Where the heck have you brought me now?' She's not looking at the trains, so has she seen something interesting in the canal? C1709 - the Class 47 is a generator and looks like it could be 47403 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 14, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 14, 2017 Today we are travelling between Newcastle and Sunderland in the 1980s. St James Bridge junction 37221 l e and brake up 14th Sept 85 C7159 Tile Shed crossing Class 101 Sunderland to Newcastle 23rd June 84 C6538. Seaburn Class 101 Newcastle to Sunderland 23rd June 84 C6535 Sunderland Jan 83 C5926 Sunderland River Wear bridges Jan 83 C5927 The lower arch is the railway bridge over the River Wear. David 38 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Have I pinpointed C5926? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium keefer Posted September 14, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 14, 2017 C5927 what an amazing pic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 14, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 14, 2017 Have I pinpointed C5926? Capture.PNG I'm honestly not sure, I can't remember exactly where I was when I took that photo, except that it was taken from one of the road entrances to the docks, which officially had no public access. The gateman allowed me to take one photo before asking me to leave. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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