35A Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 I love the double 'Peak' shot (J3687). So evocative. I was fascinated by the 'Merchant Navy' at York, presumably on a railtour. I had no idea that they'd ever worked that far north (apart from "Clan Line" in recent years - I had that around the Harrogate circle in the 1980s). Fascinating. Great pictures, as always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 18, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2017 I love the double 'Peak' shot (J3687). So evocative. I was fascinated by the 'Merchant Navy' at York, presumably on a railtour. I had no idea that they'd ever worked that far north (apart from "Clan Line" in recent years - I had that around the Harrogate circle in the 1980s). Fascinating. Great pictures, as always. Yes, it was on a railtour, "The Elizabethan", 22nd October 1966. It ran Kings Cross to Newcastle and return. Motive power was Flying Scotsman between Kings X and York, Lamport and Holt line on the York to Newcastle and return section. It was in York on the return journey from 15.11 to 15.22 while the loco change took place. Information from the "Six Bells Junction" website. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 18, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 18, 2017 Trains at Doncaster today. Doncaster Class 47 1108 up 12.00 Bradford to Kings X Nov 73 J3488 Doncaster Class 254 down ex pass Feb 79 C4320 Doncaster Class 254 up ex pass Oct 83 C6291 Doncaster Class 47 VTG van Oct 83 C6295 Doncaster 37170 and ano down empty mgr Oct 83 C6297 David 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Enterprisingwestern Posted September 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2017 C6291. Worth it for the BRUTE, the Half Sized Tram I'm not so sure about!! Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caradoc Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 J3488; Just wonderful. If a Martian spaceship landed outside my door right now I could not be any more excited than the first time I saw an 11xx Class 47 (at Kings X in 1972). Thanks once again for your marvelous collection and for posting them here, David. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 18, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 18, 2017 Hi, Dave. A stunning set of photos of Doncaster. Again so nostalgic, and thank you for posting them. The unit,in the background, on enlarging the photo, in C6291, is a class 110 Calder Valley unit. The windows, tumblehome, and the ends of the carriages are all clues. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AberdeenBill Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 J3488; Just wonderful. If a Martian spaceship landed outside my door right now I could not be any more excited than the first time I saw an 11xx Class 47 (at Kings X in 1972). Thanks once again for your marvelous collection and for posting them here, David. Growing up on the south coast, '1100 Brushes' were almost mythical and the very definition of "un-underlined" (is that a word??) in ones ABC Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Pilotman Posted September 19, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) C6295: a classic example of someone getting halfway through a weathering project, and then giving up. I doubt if many people (apart from the legendary Paul Bartlett of course) were taking pictures of wagons back then so many thanks indeed, Dave, for doing so. Lovely pictures! Edited September 19, 2017 by Western Aviator Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 19, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2017 Carlisle today with photos from 1987 and 1990. In 1990 the Settle and Carlisle trains were quite long and well filled with passengers. Carlisle 45044 up steel coil April 87 J8815 Carlisle 08808 motorail vans April 87 J8888 Carlisle Class 86 86426 E3195 1st Sept 87 C9088 Carlisle 47418 Leeds to Carlisle May 90 J10927 Carlisle 31418 Boadicea Carlisle to Leeds May 90 J10964 David 43 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted September 19, 2017 RMweb Premium Share Posted September 19, 2017 C9088 that AL6/Class 86 seems to be in a bit of a hybrid livery with original high relief logo on side and white cab but a newly painted yellow lower front and cab sheet with TOPS number and data panel applied. Great photos as always Cheers Keith Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 19, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2017 C9088 that AL6/Class 86 seems to be in a bit of a hybrid livery with original high relief logo on side and white cab but a newly painted yellow lower front and cab sheet with TOPS number and data panel applied. Great photos as always Cheers Keith I think it was a "special" livery. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Kazmierczak Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Is that the sun shining in Carlisle, David, in the Class 08 photo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 19, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2017 Hi, Dave. I like the Carlisle photo's. The last one shows 31418, Boadecia, which is looking most weathered, and that is how I remember that 31 at about that period of time. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 19, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 19, 2017 Is that the sun shining in Carlisle, David, in the Class 08 photo? Yes, it does have sunshine. I usually get good weather when I go to most places (except Carlisle) . This is actually one of Dad's photos, he could get the sun to appear just about anywhere he went. David 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
talisman56 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 (edited) Fantastic photos of 4-Ceps in everyday action (who else took any??). Note the front of near ex-works 7166 in J5175 with yellow spandrels(?) to the connecting door in the gangway, rim of roof and even the insides of the horns(!). In J5177, it looks like 7132 has replacement unit numbers and what's the yellow horizontal bar thing above the gangway? Bill The horizontal wooden plank above the gangway was fitted to the prototypes and Phase 1 Kent Coast Electrification batches to keep the rain off the gangways... or so the story went. Edited September 19, 2017 by talisman56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DY444 Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Growing up on the south coast, '1100 Brushes' were almost mythical and the very definition of "un-underlined" (is that a word??) in ones ABC Bill Around the time of the Bournemouth electrification there was a northbound Freightliner from Southampton which used to leave around 18:00. This was generally worked by an ER Brush 4 and was often one of the 11xx series. We frequently used to go down to St.Denys after tea specifically to see it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) Yes, it does have sunshine. I usually get good weather when I go to most places (except Carlisle) . This is actually one of Dad's photos, he could get the sun to appear just about anywhere he went. David Did you have a pet cloud too that followed you everywhere, I thought ours was unique Edited September 20, 2017 by woodenhead Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Popular Post DaveF Posted September 20, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) I think Dad must have made a special trip to Chinley North Junction in October 1977 to see Leander. I have taken the caption for the special from Dad's notes but I think it was probably the East Anglian which ran on 15th October 1977 from Liverpool St. to Dinting and return. It should have been hauled by SR 841 from Manningtree to March but it failed at Ipswich. Dad photographed the return working. I was at Manningtree on the same day to see 841 set out. Information once again from the Six Bells Junction web site. Chinley North Junction Class 114 Sheffield to New Mills Central Oct 77 J5827 Chinley North Junction Class 46 46011 Manchester to Parkeston Quay Oct 77 J5828 Chinley North Junction Class 47 47101 lime Oct 77 J5831 Chinley North Junction Jubilee Class 5690 Leander SVRPS Dinting to Liverpool St Oct 77 J5833 Chinley North Junction Jubilee Class 5690 Leander SVRPS Dinting to Liverpool St Oct 77 J5835 David Edited September 20, 2017 by DaveF 31 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 J5831 - you learn something new every day - I thought the CDA hoppers were converted in the 80s for China Clay were the first covered derivative of the HAA, didn't realise there was a CBA for carrying lime. http://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_030.php Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Market65 Posted September 20, 2017 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2017 Hi, Dave. That’s an excellent set of photos of Chinley North Junction from October, 1977. Leander certainly made a fine sight, and I think that all those hanging out of carriage windows are not allowed to do that these days - nor to be on the line side either. Things have changed over the years. With warmest regards, Rob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hughes Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 J 5827 is a class 114. The number of Windows in the middle section is one more than a 108. The extra marker light at the top as well and the shape of the radiator as well Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold DaveF Posted September 20, 2017 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted September 20, 2017 J 5827 is a class 114. The number of Windows in the middle section is one more than a 108. The extra marker light at the top as well and the shape of the radiator as well Michael My dmu identification jinx strikes again. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 J5833 - it is interesting how times have changed - quite normal to be lineside in the 70s - perhaps less so than at the end of steam when people were all over the track but tolerated, now this would make the national news with Network Rail closing the line. I'm not disagreeing that what is effectively trespass shouldn't happen now but it is quite a stark reminder of how things used to be, similarly wandering round sheds at 4am on a wet dark morning just as a shift starts and the locos are all beginning to move off shed - quite how my father convinced the shed foreman that we should get a guided tour of Thornaby I don't know - probably pointed at the small wet pathetic child with his pen and notebook. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERS Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 J5833 - it is interesting how times have changed - quite normal to be lineside in the 70s - perhaps less so than at the end of steam when people were all over the track but tolerated, now this would make the national news with Network Rail closing the line. I'm not disagreeing that what is effectively trespass shouldn't happen now but it is quite a stark reminder of how things used to be, similarly wandering round sheds at 4am on a wet dark morning just as a shift starts and the locos are all beginning to move off shed - quite how my father convinced the shed foreman that we should get a guided tour of Thornaby I don't know - probably pointed at the small wet pathetic child with his pen and notebook. No doubt things have changed, but after seeing two obnoxious idiots each with an ear to the rail on the ECML at Essendine as Flying Scotsman approached back in the Autumn of 1982, it's no wonder they have. Granted, the same loco caused issues with trespassers on the same stretch last year, but on the whole there's a much greater degree of confidence that everyone who sets out to see the spectacle like 'Scotsman will return home and with the same number of limbs they started with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 Just looked at the timetable, earliest train now from Darlington to Thornaby is 06:30, times really have changed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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