RMweb Premium 47137 Posted April 23, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted April 23, 2019 6 hours ago, JSpencer said: Yes if want to revert back to original condition, the extra buffers help. You would need to remove the extra lamp irons to the sides of the smokebox door too. And maybe even fit motor train equipment (not supplied)! The discs were used in SECR days as well as preservation. Often at least one would have a painted black cross which is seen in some preservation pics too. Check some details here (this is post 1917 while the loco is in pre-1912 condition). http://www.semgonline.com/headcodes/sheadcodes/07.html I shall keep mine without discs or other modifications. It is a beautiful thing and if I do anything it will be to add a crew. Many thanks. - Richard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted May 3, 2019 Share Posted May 3, 2019 While checking stock for an exhibition, I pulled my P's 178 in SECR and 27 in bluebell black. When testing I noticed 27 had developed a jolt while stored. Pulled it apart and adjusted the pickups. Nope still the same. I noticed the motor was slightly skew. Fiddled with the worm end and when lifting it slightly from the worm end, felt a small jolt (or it unclipping itself) tested it it and this seemed to fix it. Perhaps the motor clips make the motor sit slighly too low and cause the jolty running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 So I sent my Ps back to Hattons for repair a week ago because they'd both become unusable, and now they're both running perfectly! Huge thank you to Hattons 10/10 service. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold greatcoleswoodhalt Posted July 12, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted July 12, 2019 It was confirmed on Facebook today (July, 12th) that there are "no plans for another production run" however if they "get enough demand for them" it will be considered... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 On 12 July 2019 at 15:42, jafcreasey said: It was confirmed on Facebook today (July, 12th) that there are "no plans for another production run" however if they "get enough demand for them" it will be considered... That is a shame. There are 3 of the non preserved members which they have not yet been done in neither SECR nor BR colours. And SECR Maunsell green has yet to appear too. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted September 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted September 27, 2019 Has anyone had a problem fitting a DCC decoder to one of these? I've tried both a DCC Concepts zen and a Hattons' own brand one (both direct) and neither allow the body to sit fully back on the chassis - am I doing something wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Verth Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 I've not had any problems fitting DCC decoders to my Hattons P Class I have 3 of which 2 have Hattons decoders, the 3rd has a Gaugemaster, the Hattons decoders were brought specifically for the P class, a latter purchase of the 3rd P class I only had a 6 pin Guagemaster decoder available. Hattons have a YouTube video on fitting a decoder to the P class. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRman Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 No problems with my two either: both have Bachmann 36-568 decoders, which are really rebadged Zimo products. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Nick C Posted October 1, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted October 1, 2019 On 27/09/2019 at 12:27, Robin Verth said: I've not had any problems fitting DCC decoders to my Hattons P Class I have 3 of which 2 have Hattons decoders, the 3rd has a Gaugemaster, the Hattons decoders were brought specifically for the P class, a latter purchase of the 3rd P class I only had a 6 pin Guagemaster decoder available. Hattons have a YouTube video on fitting a decoder to the P class. On 27/09/2019 at 14:32, SRman said: No problems with my two either: both have Bachmann 36-568 decoders, which are really rebadged Zimo products. Thanks - the advice from Hattons was to file a little off the edge of the decoder PCB, which worked fine. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pre Grouping fan Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, AlexHolt said: Is there any difference between the SECR Polished Brass and SECR Brass liveries? https://www.hattons.co.uk/312291/hattons_originals_h4_p_002_secr_p_class_0_6_0t_753_in_se_cr_full_lined_green_with_brass_/stockdetail.aspx https://www.hattons.co.uk/375592/hattons_originals_h4_p_015_secr_p_class_0_6_0t_27_in_se_cr_full_lined_green_with_polished_brass_/stockdetail.aspx They look pretty similar to me. Doesn't look like the brass detailing is any different but I could be wrong? Not like the brass on the Hornby SECR models thats for sure. Not sure if its been answered already, can't find anything on forums search about this. The brass colour on 27 is shinier/better. Noticed more on the dome. Afaik that's the only difference cosmetically. Physically the tanks/cab are higher on 753 because its one of the first 2 built Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willjam39 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Thanks to this thread i just weakened and ordered one to go with the various tanks i have already :S Now to find a tank heavy prototype to model 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted March 17, 2020 Share Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) On 07/04/2019 at 00:21, GreenGiraffe22 said: Quick question, should 1555 have the number in small on the front buffer beam? I only ask because the model doesn't, but 1556 clearly did, but no one has said anything about it and there are members on this forum who would be all over it if it was wrong, so maybe it's right for 1555? Hi, did you get any further on this question? That photo is also shown on SEMG (other photos on that page show no buffer numbers, but they're of BR times, and that might be a BR thing), where it is captioned thus: Quote Nº1556 off Southern metals circa 1938 and working on the Kent & East Sussex line. The coach is 45' brake composite KESR Nº3, ex-SR Nº6413 (formerly LSWR) acquired by the KESR in 1932. According to Wakipeedya: Quote In 1935, the K&ESR purchased a 2-ton Bedford LQ lorry, and another was purchased in 1936. In that year, the first of the locomotives hired from the Southern Railway arrived on the line, this was P Class No. 1556. The only photo that I've found of 1555 doesn't show the buffer clearly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SECR_P_class#/media/File:Brighton_Locomotive_Depot_geograph-2652145-by-Ben-Brooksbank.jpg I guess that there are two possibilities. Either all SR locos had the buffer number, and the Hattons' 1555 is incorrect; or they didn't and 1556 gained its number when hired by the K&ESR. One option that I'm toying with is renumbering 1555 to 1556 and using her on a fictional SR/K&ESR junction (there was a real junction at Robertsbridge). Edited March 17, 2020 by truffy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiraffe22 Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 13 hours ago, truffy said: Hi, did you get any further on this question? Nope, never did get an answer but no one else has mentioned it so perhaps it's correct? Anyone in the know wish to clarify? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Verth Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 In 1936 the London County Council hired P class 1555 for about 3 years it spent some of this time if not all on the Horton Light Railway, which served 3 of the 5 Epsom psychiatric hospitals and the power plant for the hospital cluster, the exchange sidings were at Ewell West on the South Western section, one of the few times a P class got onto the South Western section, 1555 was back on the Horton Light Railway during WW2 working Anti Aircraft railguns, the railway was bombed several times, I have never seen a photograph of 1555 on the Horton Light Railway, photographs of this railway (and a number of other hospital railways) are quite scarce. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickham Green too Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 All Southern-liveried locos should have bufferbeam numbers ......... and bunker / tender rear numbers too at most dates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
truffy Posted March 18, 2020 Share Posted March 18, 2020 29 minutes ago, Wickham Green too said: All Southern-liveried locos should have bufferbeam numbers ......... and bunker / tender rear numbers too at most dates. The odd thing is that HA-P-005 (1555) does have a bunker rear number, just not one on the front buffer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr chapman Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Has anyone fitted one of these with a kadee? If so how's the height? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Les1952 Posted October 11, 2020 Share Posted October 11, 2020 On 07/10/2020 at 01:33, Mr chapman said: Has anyone fitted one of these with a kadee? If so how's the height? yes and fine. Les 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebell Model Railway Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Yes 19 NEM type fine for height. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishdurham Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Hatton's have knocked ten quid off the price, so I finally took the plunge. Don't tell the wife! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Sweet pea Posted December 4, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 4, 2020 Yes I caved in to temptation and purchased the BR Black with early emblem, no issues with running. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattA Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 (edited) A pre-owned "Bluebell" in blue has turned up on the Hatton's website. £210 - more than double the RRP when it was new - is a bit of an eye-watering price for an engine of that size. No doubt somebody will pick it up anyway, but I can't justify it having just bought a full rake of Mk1s... Edited January 11, 2021 by MattA 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack P Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Bit of an odd request, but if anyone who has purchased A Hatton's P and is interested in selling off the (unused, not fussed if it's open) detail pack/spare buffers they haven't used, please drop me a PM. After multiple, and not fussed if it's just the couplings etc. Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSpencer Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 19 hours ago, MattA said: A pre-owned "Bluebell" in blue has turned up on the Hatton's website. £210 - more than double the RRP when it was new - is a bit of an eye-watering price for an engine of that size. No doubt somebody will pick it up anyway, but I can't justify it having just bought a full rake of Mk1s... If they are really selling for those prices, its a sign to do another run of - say - 200. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isambard Smith Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 8 hours ago, JSpencer said: If they are really selling for those prices, its a sign to do another run of - say - 200. I got the notification, but by the time I checked two hours later bluebell was sold out again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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