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1 hour ago, john new said:

I would recommend 957, but as you see from the logo in my sig', as a current SLS Director this is a rather biased plug!

 

1 hour ago, eric709 said:

 

Not sure how a couple of pics will help you decide which ones to pick. 

The original green ones are pretty much all the same, very little variation in the fleet save for the headlights but all these are covered in the listings on Hattons own website.

same with powerhaul really, only some slight variations in placement of the logos.

heres 528 for what its worth....

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59 minutes ago, 7013 said:

I have 66957 on order, I like named locos and this one obviously has historical connections which for me is special

 

Thank you all for the replies and thank you Eric for the photos. 

 

I have definitely decided to buy 528 & 957. Just because these two were originally in the heavy haul pool and thus appeared regularly on coal trains in Hunslet Yard and on Leeds Midland Road for maintenance and refuelling etc. I also saw 528 derailed on the entrance to Midland Road depot once on a Saturday morning a few years ago. It was their for hours before it was re-railed. Another interesting thing about 528 is that this is one of the Freightliner 66s that I have seen the most. I also believe that this one has been seen by myself more times than any other Freightliner 66. It's one of the Midland Road regulars if you like. Another reason why I like it. 

 

I also like 418 because alike 504 & 528 it has the large Freightliner lettering on the bodysides. I'm pleased that I sold the Bachmann 416 now because it had the smaller lettering which to me on a large bodyside looks lost and just doesn't look right. 

 

I feel as though I need Freightliner ONE 587 because I have 522 & 623 in their respective special liveries and 587 is only the third ever Freightliner 66 to be adorned in a customer livery/branding. But to go with 587 I would likely want a second intermodal 66, so either 418 or 502 out of the ones I like. 418 is nice because it's a special named Patriot but I also like 502 because it's named Basford Hall Centenary 2001. So really it looks as though I have decided on the first three. Now I could possibly have another two. So really it's either 418 & 502 or the GBRf Royal Scotsman pair. 

 

66528 looks excellent. The livery application and printing looks brilliant too. 

 

Thanks again. 

 

Kind Regards, 

 

Danny. 

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14 hours ago, DRS Crewe On A Mission said:

 

 

 

Thank you all for the replies and thank you Eric for the photos. 

 

I have definitely decided to buy 528 & 957. Just because these two were originally in the heavy haul pool and thus appeared regularly on coal trains in Hunslet Yard and on Leeds Midland Road for maintenance and refuelling etc. I also saw 528 derailed on the entrance to Midland Road depot once on a Saturday morning a few years ago. It was their for hours before it was re-railed. Another interesting thing about 528 is that this is one of the Freightliner 66s that I have seen the most. I also believe that this one has been seen by myself more times than any other Freightliner 66. It's one of the Midland Road regulars if you like. Another reason why I like it. 

 

I also like 418 because alike 504 & 528 it has the large Freightliner lettering on the bodysides. I'm pleased that I sold the Bachmann 416 now because it had the smaller lettering which to me on a large bodyside looks lost and just doesn't look right. 

 

I feel as though I need Freightliner ONE 587 because I have 522 & 623 in their respective special liveries and 587 is only the third ever Freightliner 66 to be adorned in a customer livery/branding. But to go with 587 I would likely want a second intermodal 66, so either 418 or 502 out of the ones I like. 418 is nice because it's a special named Patriot but I also like 502 because it's named Basford Hall Centenary 2001. So really it looks as though I have decided on the first three. Now I could possibly have another two. So really it's either 418 & 502 or the GBRf Royal Scotsman pair. 

 

66528 looks excellent. The livery application and printing looks brilliant too. 

 

Thanks again. 

 

Kind Regards, 

 

Danny. 

 

All the Freightliner 66’s are in a common user pool, there is no specific HH or IM ones anymore

indeed 587 has spent more time doing non Intermodal work since its repaint 

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1 hour ago, eric709 said:

 

All the Freightliner 66’s are in a common user pool, there is no specific HH or IM ones anymore

indeed 587 has spent more time doing non Intermodal work since its repaint 

 

Very true. It seems strange now though seeing an original heavy haul example or an original intermodal example doing the opposite work. 528 & 957 which were both originally heavy haul examples now spend the majority of their time on intermodal work. It is interesting to follow. Then on the other hand as you say 587 has mostly worked heavy haul trains following it's repaint a few months ago. I suppose for modelling though it makes it easier and cheaper because you can now run any Freightliner 66 with whatever wagons you want and it doesn't look unusual. 

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17 hours ago, 7013 said:

I have 66957 on order, I like named locos and this one obviously has historical connections which for me is special

It would be boring if we were all the same wouldn't it? - I prefer unnamed ones.

A named loco running 2 successive services on a layout looks obvious, but most will not spot an unnamed one trundling back & forth, so you need less of them.

It is also easier to add a name than remove it (although on a 66 with front numbers, this can be a little more involved).

 

With people like us having opposing preferences, it should keep a wide selection available. :biggrin_mini2:

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19 minutes ago, woodenhead said:

Seems Hattons missed on trick with the 66 - smoke!!

 

This is an ESU HO 66, personally it looks plain wrong as modern diesels don't emit smoke like a steam engine.  It also seems to glow around the wheels when it brakes - do the real ones do that?

 

Like you I don’t like the unrealistic smoke, does show though why unboxing videos can be  useful.

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Wonder what the Dapol 59 will be like?

 

It should smoke when performing a cold start then 'clean out', perhaps smoking again at full throttle momentarily ... but despite the novelty, not that realistic.

 

The 'flashing' around the bogies is said to be 'wheel sparking' ... a feature too far?

 

Al.

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1 hour ago, woodenhead said:

Seems Hattons missed on trick with the 66 - smoke!!

 

This is an ESU HO 66, personally it looks plain wrong as modern diesels don't emit smoke like a steam engine.  It also seems to glow around the wheels when it brakes - do the real ones do that?

 

 

It was like watching a German porn video...disrobed, oiled up and then having a cigarette after some action :jester:

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2 hours ago, ERIC ALLTORQUE said:

The German model 66 is awful compared to the Hattons version,i know which one i would have and i will not be buying the smoke 59 when Dapol get there act together.

Heljan’s HO 66 isnt too bad, it doesnt smoke thankfully.

 

That ESU smokes like the onions in a Teppenyaki grill.

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I've seen the ESU one in EWS colours at our club - it didn't have 'smoke' but it did have the awful 'sparky' brakes effect - that didn't seem to tie in too well with the brake screech. The moulding body-wise isn't the same as the Bachy one due to it being a metal die-casting. As an aside, having been used to all my 00 kit, the H0 version looked just a shade under-nourished ;).

 

Cheers,

 

Philip

 

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11 hours ago, 7013 said:

The HO 66 looks ok, but to see how good it really is it would have to be compared alongside all the other offerings. The smoke unit is woeful.

Smoke in OO...

I have seen it done on a OO steam layout recently where the smoke was actually puffing out & it looked quite good. It was apparently done with vaping products so the smoke was dry.

It seems to have moved forward since the earlier examples of a static heater burning oil which dribbled out, giving the boiler a rather un-prototypical gloss.

Sound has moved on a lot over the past few years. Maybe smoke will make similar progress?

It is another catch 22 though. It won't be properly developed unless people take an interest...but not many people will buy it until it works a little better.

I believe this may develop through lager scales where there is more space to add a 'puffer' fan.

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On 27/12/2019 at 21:44, marshy said:

 

I once saw video of a German O gauge layout with smoke fitted steam loco's. It was the most realistic I've seen, seem to remember it was synced with the sound, and the safety valves and cylinder cocks worked which must take some skill to pipe up inside. Sadly I can't find it now. 

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1 hour ago, Ben A said:

 

Hello all,

 

I have often thought vaping technology would create a far more effective impression of steam, but I Imagine any locos so equipped would need it to be switched off for indoor public shows to comply with smoking/vaping legislation.

 

cheers

 

Ben A.

It does open up the idea of having you loco smell like strawberry cheese cake flavour !!

 

Regards Arran 

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