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All-new Heljan 47 in 00 gauge

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the only good news for me is it says the O gauge one is in tooling :D

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Looking forward to this one. Bachmann have sat on their hands for too long. Snooze ya lose! 

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4 minutes ago, Hilux5972 said:

Looking forward to this one. Bachmann have sat on their hands for too long. Snooze ya lose! 

 

Well quite possibly so but do remember also that Heljan ‘s existing rendition sorely needs updating.In any case is the Bachmann version as bad as all that ? Surely it isn’t perfect we know.

    One consequence might be a drop in retail price for it, over priced as it currently is...as is happening in the case of the 66 after Hattons announcement of their own model.

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According to the release, the tools were not good enough for a re-release, so they chose to build on their work on the o guage version.  Which makes you think about some of their other o guage models.

 

As to its success, I'll guess we'll get some idea with how the Hattons 66 sells Vs the Bachmann model

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Well guess it was coming! Wonder if there will be seperate panels for the rad louvres and boiler ports rather than individual tooling?
 

Just done another 3 Bachmann ones - D1103, D1848 and D1987 - all serck but 3 boiler port variations. Still need a couple more for the fleet - D1781 in works currently - but think we will wait and see how these progress before doing any more.

 

Phil

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Lovely jubbly, where the others seem to better Bachmann is they now bring out  sooner a good selection of liveries rather than drip feeding  odd ones.

 

 

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Excellent news!!!

 

Another nice Class 47 to accompany my ViTrains and Hornby RailRoad Class 47s.

 

Thank you Heljan.

 

PS: can someone please amend the title??? I nearly started a thread altogether because I missed this. Companies like Heljan offer models in multiple scales. Please put a title like "Heljan Announce OO Gauge Class 47"

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2-tone green with options of large and small yellow panels - best livery for 47's - equal best-looking older diesel - with the 52 ...

 

Not one for a few opinions!!

 

Al.

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9 minutes ago, MGR Hooper! said:

 

PS: can someone please amend the title??? I nearly started a thread altogether because I missed this. Companies like Heljan offer models in multiple scales. Please put a title like "Heljan Announce OO Gauge Class 47"

 

Sorted.

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12 minutes ago, Ouroborus said:

 

Sorted.

Gauge :smileclear:

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1 hour ago, Ouroborus said:

 

Sorted.

 

Thank you so much!

 

Cheers

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If its any good I will get a few no doubt. Never liked Heljan's tubby duff.

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This is great news, and many predicted a new upgraded 47. But please please please Heljan, get it right, and listen and act on feedback if it's not...we don't want another 'almost there but not quite' 47 on the market.

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I expect Hornby are already digging out the Limby 47 tooling to do a massive release of popular livery models in the not too distant future on hearing about this!

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5 minutes ago, John M Upton said:

I expect Hornby are already digging out the Limby 47 tooling to do a massive release of popular livery models in the not too distant future on hearing about this!

 

I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a range planned for the 2020 catalogue, either that or class 37s off the back of the success of the class 66s this year. 

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I reckon Accuracale will be doing a 37 at some point, it fits their wagon profiles and will be a nice follow on from the Deltics.

 

Or even Hattons as another big freight mover, the 66 of its day

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4 hours ago, Ian Hargrave said:

 

In any case is the Bachmann version as bad as all that ? Surely it isn’t perfect we know.

 

Starting with the early versions makes sense, because those are the worst of the Bachmann ones as they still after all these years have the rivets round the front cab windows, and the cab door window is the wrong shape. The later Bachmann versions are better, but can still be improved upon.

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I’m pleased to hear that Heljan are doing a OO Scale Class 47 and I take my hat off to Ben Jones.  Before I decide to order one, I’ll wait to see what the reaction is for their newly announced Class 45 and 86.

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4 hours ago, Phil Bullock said:

Well guess it was coming! Wonder if there will be seperate panels for the rad louvres and boiler ports rather than individual tooling?
 

Just done another 3 Bachmann ones - D1103, D1848 and D1987 - all serck but 3 boiler port variations. Still need a couple more for the fleet - D1781 in works currently - but think we will wait and see how these progress before doing any more.

 

Phil

Hi Phil

 

I see on Faceache there is someone asking for a class 48 as well.......I don't need one I done that conversion.

 

It would be nice that the unique radiator grille of D1500 was considered and of course the cant rail grilles with less dividing bars found on D1500-1509 (47 401 to 410) is another option.

 

 

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Yes thought of your efforts Clive when that came up - but what are the odds d'you think? Although Heljan have done plenty of other prototypes so perhaps shouldnt rule a class of 5 out!

 

And forgot about the first 20 so add that detail to the list - thanks for plugging my forgetfulness!

 

Phil

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1 minute ago, Phil Bullock said:

Yes thought of your efforts Clive when that came up - but what are the odds d'you think? Although Heljan have done plenty of other prototypes so perhaps shouldnt rule a class of 5 out!

 

And forgot about the first 20 so add that detail to the list - thanks for plugging my forgetfulness!

 

Phil

Another variation Phil,

 

How about modelling the Serck grilles open as if the engine is under load, i.e. pulling a train. I get fed up with seeing class 47s coasting as they accelerate away from a station with 8 or more on the back.

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Absolutely Clive! was so characteristic

 

Or wasnt our mutual friend Mr Dell looking at making that DCC controlled functionality?

 

Phil

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2 minutes ago, Phil Bullock said:

Absolutely Clive! was so characteristic

 

Or wasnt our mutual friend Mr Dell looking at making that DCC controlled functionality?

 

Phil

Hi Phil

 

Andi was but not sure how much progress has been made.

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Plainly a trundle on the empty clayliner wasnt enough to open them

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As opposed to a thrash up the Lickey, even on a cold day....

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