caradoc Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 17 hours ago, lmsforever said: Shame to see them go always had a good experience with them and the staff were brilliant friendly helpful and looked after you extremely well .thanks to everyone and hope the future works out.Be interesting to see Firsts offering and fares watch this space. Agree; I always found Virgin staff great to deal with, whether as a passenger in Standard or First Class, or at work as a Railtrack and Network Rail Controller, when I was often giving their Controllers bad news ! Best Wishes to all Virgin Trains staff for the future. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul.Uni Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 20 hours ago, big jim said: one thing i do know is you cant collect nectar points after the franchise change! Have First or Nectar said they won't be offering Nectar points? Or is it that Virgin Trains Nectar points are only given if you book on a Virgin Trains service, so any tickets for travel on First operated services will get no Virgin Trains Nectar points. It would be a bit strange given that the GWR, SWR & TPE offer Nectar points if you book a ticket through their websites/apps, regardless of the TOC you travel with. On a similar vein, does anyone know if the Seatfrog upgrade App will still be valid on First WCML services? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 22, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 22, 2019 From what I can make out from an email I had from Virgin it said the new franchisee will have it’s own loyalty scheme i think seatfrog wont work either at the franchise change Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afroal05 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 21/11/2019 at 23:29, melmerby said: The Virgin branding has already been removed from some (all?) Pendos, which are running around "naked" in all over white. They're still stripping some units of their branding, the 1933 Euston - Blackpool was cancelled last Tuesday and the internal information given was '1P21 caped due to shortage of Voyagers. 221101 stood down to be de-branded' - disappointing to be cancelling services for the sake of a logo! On 22/11/2019 at 13:33, big jim said: From what I can make out from an email I had from Virgin it said the new franchisee will have it’s own loyalty scheme i think seatfrog wont work either at the franchise change Seatfrog may well be introduced or continued in the future, it has recently been introduced with GWR so First Group should be switched on to it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Do we have any idea as to livery that First will use maybe being Italian it won it!ill have spaghetti 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmsforever Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 fingers slipped should have it might have spagheti on it ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernard Lamb Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 On 21/11/2019 at 23:29, melmerby said: The Virgin branding has already been removed from some (all?) Pendos, which are running around "naked" in all over white. ……...and very smart and business like they look. Almost like proper trains rather than mobile billboards.. Bernard 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Davexoc Posted November 23, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 23, 2019 3 hours ago, lmsforever said: Do we have any idea as to livery that First will use maybe being Italian it won it!ill have spaghetti Obviously blood and custard, known in Italian as, tomato and pasta..... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davey Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 That's pasta joke. Davey 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 25, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 23/11/2019 at 19:04, Bernard Lamb said: ……...and very smart and business like they look. Almost like proper trains rather than mobile billboards.. Bernard The white Pendolinos do look a lot better than the Virgin razzamatazz livery - plenty of them about on Saturday I noticed when going to/from the Warley show but there was a pair of Voyagers still very much in Virgin colours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher125 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 On 21/11/2019 at 23:01, melmerby said: I wonder what the branding will settle down as? First LMS, complete with maroon coaches? 'Avanti West Coast' looks a good bet, possibly orange? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afroal05 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 First train in the new livery is allegedly a 1033 departure from Euston on the 9th. Nothing visible in TRUST at that time yet. Not long to go now... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2019 Already known as First Genitalia in these parts 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Reorte Posted November 26, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 23/11/2019 at 19:04, Bernard Lamb said: ……...and very smart and business like they look. Almost like proper trains rather than mobile billboards.. They look like one of those layouts where someone's running unfinished kit or scratch-built stock. Guess that'll make life easier for current scene modellers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckymucklebackit Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Legend said: Already known as First Genitalia in these parts So the nickname Pendildolinos is most appropriate! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ron Ron Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Legend said: Already known as First Genitalia in these parts The advertising slogan could be... First Genitalia - we’re the B@ll@cks Ron Edited November 26, 2019 by Ron Ron Ron 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2019 Posted elsewhere, the actual unveiling is in Birmingham tonight: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/first-trenitalia-wcml-branding-naming-and-livery.189399/page-33#post-4307834 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 https://www.avantiwestcoast.co.uk/ Yay - still doing nectar as well, signed up for an email so I can set myself up - I wonder if Virgin will offer to transfer my profile like they did at the last aborted franchise change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, woodenhead said: https://www.avantiwestcoast.co.uk/ Yay - still doing nectar as well, signed up for an email so I can set myself up - I wonder if Virgin will offer to transfer my profile like they did at the last aborted franchise change. Apparently all staff from the managing director down have been re-hired by the new bunch. (Drivers, on train staff, ticket sellers etc. automatically get transferred) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
298 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 44 minutes ago, melmerby said: Posted elsewhere, the actual unveiling is in Birmingham tonight: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/first-trenitalia-wcml-branding-naming-and-livery.189399/page-33#post-4307834 But unfortunate today considering the northern WCML has thoroughly collapsed. Mother in Law is travelling to Edinburgh and had a 6.5hr wait at Preston for a Bus to Carlisle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium melmerby Posted November 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) So it's just effectively *First West Coast. (Not very imaginative IMHO) * In this context Avanti in Italian means First but Avanti sounds more exotic! Edited November 27, 2019 by melmerby Spelling - mine not the PC! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastwestdivide Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Not such a bad name I reckon. Avanti in Italian is more like "forwards, onwards" than "first" (primo/prima). Also used as an exclamation to encourage someone onwards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, melmerby said: So it's just effectively *First West Coast. (Not very imaginative IMHO) * In this context Avanti in Italian means First but Avanti sounds more exotic! A bit like Virgin sounding better than Branson Holding Company Railways. I am looking forward to the toilet no longer wishing to hold a conversation with me. "What's my motivation for this voice role?, You're a public urinal and you want people to use you!" I wonder if the lady who got that job declares it on her CV? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold big jim Posted November 27, 2019 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2019 34 minutes ago, woodenhead said: https://www.avantiwestcoast.co.uk/ Yay - still doing nectar as well, signed up for an email so I can set myself up - I wonder if Virgin will offer to transfer my profile like they did at the last aborted franchise change. this is the email I just got...... As one journey comes to an end, a new one begins. You might have heard that Virgin Trains will stop running their services across the UK soon. We’ll be sad to wave them farewell on 7 December. But until then you’ll still be getting 2 points for every £1 you spend. And from 8 December, you’ll be getting the same number of points on your journeys with our new partner Avanti West Coast, who take over from Virgin Trains. For more information check the Avanti website. In the meantime, if you notice any Nectar points or miles missing, get in touch with Virgin Trains West Coast by 7 March 2020. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted November 27, 2019 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2019 I was always led to believe that the italians were faster in reverse! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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