RMweb Gold Popular Post Accurascale Fran Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2020 Hi everyone, Our latest announcement in OO/4mm is the British Railways unfitted 21 Ton mineral wagon diagram 1/107 (later classed as MDO under the TOPS system) and the British Railways vacuum braked 21 Ton mineral wagon diagram 1/120 (later classed as MDV under the TOPS system), two much needed wagons in ready to run form! We revealed these wagons at the Festival of Railways virtual show following own now usual practice of announcing new models with complete tooling samples, showing both models well-advanced in development. Announcing models with tooling samples already completed reduces the waiting times for the modeller considerably and makes a firm commitment that the models will be released in a timely manner, with expensive and time consuming tooling already carried out and paid for. It also demonstrates that the models have been in development for a significant period of time, with research, surveys, CAD development and tooling creation already completed. These wagons form part of our “Powering Britain” plan of recreating the wagons through the ages that fuelled Britain by rail. This began with the 24.5 Ton HUO hopper wagons and will be represented by the forthcoming HYA bogie hoppers, IIA biomass hoppers, these 21 Ton mineral wagons and other forthcoming, but as yet unannounced, Accurascale models. As can be seen in the photographs, these ubiquitous wagons have received the full Accurascale treatment, featuring an underframe consisting of unparalleled levels of detail and tooling crispness to create a true scale model of some long missing prototype wagons in ready-to-run form. A wealth of separately applied parts have been employed and full chassis detail is represented, along with 26mm over pinpoint axles and kinematic couplings with NEM pockets at correct height to allow simple coupling changes for modellers and easy conversion to EM/P4 standards if desired. Provision has been made to represent the MDW variant as well as other wagons on this chassis in future production runs. These wagons primarily conveyed coal but were sometimes used to carry scrap metal, rock salt and gypsum. Both the MDO and MDVs saw widespread use but are most often associated with coal trains on the Midland Region and the South Wales coalfields, supplying coal to power stations, steel works, and docks for export. They were also used to supply coal concentration depots. MDVs could also be seen in use in other areas such as Kent, East Anglia, West Midlands, The Potteries and Central Valley of Scotland. The unfitted 21 Ton mineral wagons (later MDO) were introduced in 1950 building on from previous GWR wagon designs. A total of 1,500 wagons were built to diagram 1/107 and featured oil axle boxes, two doors either side with another at one end only for end tipping. These wagons remained in service until 1987, running in block trains and mixed with other coal wagons such as 16 Ton minerals, 21 Ton hoppers, 24.5 Ton hoppers and others. The last outpost for MDOs was on workings between Llanelli and Swansea Docks as the unloading facility could not end-tip vacuum-fitted wagons at the time. Meanwhile the vacuum braked 21 Ton mineral wagon (later MDV) began service in 1961 as a development of diagram 1/107 platform, featuring additional flap doors over the side doors, roller bearings and vacuum braking. A total of 3,950 wagons were built to the 1.120 that our model represents. Once again these wagons ran both in block trains and mixed with other coal wagons such as 16 Ton minerals, 24.5 Ton minerals (later MEO) and hopper wagons like the 21 Ton BR hoppers. The MDVs soldiered on in service until 1992, representing an interesting traditional wagon throwback in the exciting railfreight sectorisation era. As ever, we will be offering both wagons in packs of three wagons with multiple running numbers across several packs in both pre TOPS and TOPS guises, with grey and bauxite liveries represented. Price per three wagon pack is £74.95 with bundle deals available as always, giving you further savings! Delivery is slated for Q3 2021 and are available to pre-order direct right here or via one of our 90 local stockists. (Please note that tweaks and improvements will be made to these pre-production samples before production) Cheers! Fran 33 1 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
66738 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Superb. Look forward to seeing these! 66738 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodenhead Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 So you just need those centre headcode 37s now @Accurascale Fran for a good South Wales vibe. I reckon those boys at Revolution will be interested in shrinking these too. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) Thats a pretty heavy engineered coupling, 2 screws, a keeper plate, pivot and spring ? Are you expecting some heavy weight usage ? Interesting choice, every layout needs a basic few of these for a trip working, right up to block train. Edited November 7, 2020 by adb968008 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, adb968008 said: Thats a pretty heavy engineered coupling, 2 screws, a keeper plate, pivot and spring ? Are you expecting some heavy weight usage ? Interesting choice, every layout needs a basic few of these for a trip working, right up to block train. To recreate a load of coal heading for Llanwern for example you might want up to about 30 of them behind a class 37, I have many happy memories watching trains like that passing through Newport of Cardiff. Equally though they might be seen singly mixed in with a handful of MCVs or MCOs as far apart as Inverness or Penzance, so it is an inspired choice to model. cheers 6 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold JohnR Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 Really good choice. 1 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted November 7, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, adb968008 said: Thats a pretty heavy engineered coupling, 2 screws, a keeper plate, pivot and spring ? Are you expecting some heavy weight usage ? Interesting choice, every layout needs a basic few of these for a trip working, right up to block train. Well, they did run in long trains! Coupling mech will perhaps receive some refinement. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) All my photographic trips to South Wales seemed to produce plenty of trains with MDVs or MDOs, here is a block train of MDVs, and another of mixed HTV/MCV/MDV. On a dull February day 37233 waits on the Up Relief Line at Llanwern Works West Connection with about 30 loaded MDVs of coking coal for the steelworks, as 37240 overtakes on the Up Main line with a train of house coal heading for Severn Tunnel Junction formed of a mix of HTV, MCV and MDV, 10/2/82. cheers Edited November 7, 2020 by Rivercider 11 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Accurascale Fran Posted November 7, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 Cracking pic, Kevin! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Controller Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Not one, but two, signature vehicles for anyone modelling from the late 1950s; I've already got about 50 examples of the two types, converted from Parkside and Chiver's kits, but I'm sure I'll find space for some more. Couple of notes about variants: a small number of MDV were given air pipes, and recoded MDW. They worked from various scrap yards around Tyneside to Lackenby steelworks. Apart from the 1/107s, there were a large number of MDO rebodies on a selection of chassis, including MDO, HTO (both BR and LNER style) and HUO. These have a slightly thinner top rail, but otherwise seem to be identical. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivercider Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 In South Wales most of the unfitted MDOs were to be found further west. Here at the East End sidings at Swansea Docks MDOs loaded with export coal wait their turn to be called to the coal hoists, note how all the wagons have the end door at the west end. The docks pilot is 08259. 9/11/83. cheers 12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 29 minutes ago, Accurascale Fran said: Well, they did run in long trains! Coupling mech will perhaps receive some refinement. Dont do too much! if you leave option to remove it altogether, using chain links these would be spot on. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, adb968008 said: Dont do too much! if you leave option to remove it altogether, using chain links these would be spot on. Remove the two screws and the entire NEM assembly pops off 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, McC said: Remove the two screws and the entire NEM assembly pops off I was eyeing that, thinking it could be useful sold in packs of 10 to upgrade others. Edited November 7, 2020 by adb968008 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rembrow Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 Great news, definitely going for the pre TOPS. With the Bachmann 24.5t versions for TMC having now reached livery artwork stage, both types could be available at about the same time 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Flying Pig Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 7, 2020 Good to see a high quality model filling such an obvious gap. Made me smile. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil gollin Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 . I was thinking of getting the MDO five-pack, but it includes pre-TOPS and TOPS together - any chance of a collection of pre-TOPS ones only ? Thanks. . 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators AY Mod Posted November 7, 2020 Moderators Share Posted November 7, 2020 Fancy a few more pics and some video footage of the wagons? 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 Too modern for me as usual (lucky wallet ;)) - but for the ignoramus here - what's the diamond link please? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) I'm going to post this photo again to score a hat trick with it this week. As Fran knows all too wellIi have been asking (he probably uses another word) for these for a long time although I didn't expect the vac fitted version as well. Only choice now is do I support my 'local' model shop or do I order direct - choices, choices. But great stuff and superb detail now get on with the GWR version and find a 16 tonner nobody else has done yet and do it to this standard (is there one?). So here they are again and nearest camera in this1973 view in Radyr yard (photo taken with official permission - from me as I was at work ). some hints for a weathered version perhaps? Edited November 7, 2020 by The Stationmaster 9 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Stationmaster Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Bucoops said: Too modern for me as usual (lucky wallet ;)) - but for the ignoramus here - what's the diamond link please? Black diamonds - in the wagons in my pic above. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Bucoops Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Stationmaster said: Black diamonds - in the wagons in my pic above. Thanks So black diamonds = coal? I feel like this is obvious now and I really should get some more sleep. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold McC Posted November 7, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, phil gollin said: . I was thinking of getting the MDO five-pack, but it includes pre-TOPS and TOPS together - any chance of a collection of pre-TOPS ones only ? Thanks. . Depending on your timeframe they would have run together for about 5 years or so. Drop us a line for a code for DIY bundles 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matabiau Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) Are these the same prototype as per Hornby's old 1970s R102 NCB mineral wagons? Edited November 7, 2020 by Matabiau extra detail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
89A Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) Brilliant News. I don't think anyone has done a BR Green Centre Headcode Box 37 with full yellow ends apart from Caerphilly Castle. There were Blue and Green 37s running with these wagons in the 1970s. Edited November 7, 2020 by 89A Specific 37 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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