Moderators AY Mod Posted November 30, 2021 Moderators Share Posted November 30, 2021 The Quirky Poll 2021 Hello everyone, Welcome to the third annual Quirky Poll that we run in conjunction with our friends Andy York & Phil Parker of RMweb. Many of you found these Polls to be just what we intended… ‘a little bit of Christmas fun’! You will find below a list of 25 items – some of which are your suggestions from 2020 – each with a link to a photo and/or further detail. We haven’t listed certain suggestions as models are actually available – albeit from overseas makers. You may tick as many items as you like, but – although this is ‘Christmas fun’ – they must be items that you would realistically wish to buy if they were ever made (as you used to do with The 00 Wishlist Poll) – it is not to decide ‘the quirkiest’. The Top Item of the 2019 Quirky Poll – Stephenson’s Rocket – has been announced as have the Top Two of the 2020 Poll – Bellerophon and Titfield Thunderbolt. In respect of the latter, we asked you to vote for ‘the full train’ and Rapido has announced that they will making five items! Will you be able to pick some more winners this year? OK…stop working and get quirking! You have until 18.00 on Thursday 30 December 2021 to vote. We aim to publish the results in the usual Poll Team format as soon as we can on 1 January 2022 – look for the title: Results – The Quirky Poll 2021. Merry Christmas and a Safe & Happy New Year to you all! The Poll Team Robert Carroll, Chris Knowles-Thomas, John Lewis, Jeff Lynn, Brian Macdermott, Nick Stanbury & Ian Taylor Below is ‘The Guide’ to the 25 items – access to the actual Poll is here https://forms.gle/uz1kWGR3FsQFrVKF9 Aveling & Porter Loco Certainly unusual with a ‘quirky charm’! http://www.bluebell-railway.co.uk/bluebell/pics/blue_circle.html B17 Streamlined A missing link from the streamlined era. https://transportsofdelight.smugmug.com/RAILWAYS/LOCOMOTIVES-OF-THE-LONDON-NORTH-EASTERN-RAILWAY/LOCOMOTIVES-OF-LNER-ORIGIN/i-PpDtr7T/ BR Nos.15097-15099 (Originally LNER Simplex Z6 Class, later Y11) A small yard shunter. All three are distinctly different. https://www.lner.info/locos/IC/y11.php Brennan Monorail A challenge for any manufacturer! One for radio-controlled battery operation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od4ZQFPCx5I Brighton & Rottingdean Seashore Electric Railway One way to beat ‘rising sea levels’! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUzV1jt0aRQ Bristol & Exeter Railway Pearson 4-2-4T Will the manufacturers go for Broad Gauge? https://graham64.wordpress.com/2017/03/19/pearson-4-2-4-single-class-locomotive/ Bulleid Shunter No.11001 Built in 1950, it spent much of its life at Norwood Junction. https://sremg.org.uk/diesel/bull-500.shtml Campbeltown & Machrihanish Light Railway A narrow gauge line you would like to see made available RTR? https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/Miscellaneous/Private-and-light-railways/i-N364cSf/A GWR Crane Tank Steropes Built in 1901 for use at Swindon Works. https://www.steampicturelibrary.com/locomotives/steam-standard-gauge-crane-tank-locomotives/0-6-4-crane-tank-locomotive-18-steropes-4303151.html GWR Harrison’s Hurricane If the makers do go for Broad Gauge, how about this for starters? https://www.facebook.com/DidcotRailwayCentre/photos/180-years-ago-today-on-6-october-1838-the-remarkable-broad-gauge-locomotive-hurr/2426203314073209/ Ivor The Engine The famous engine, soon to appear in a film. http://www.smallfilms.co.uk/ivor/ K&ESR Railbus No.3 Sadly, scrapped in 1941. https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/Miscellaneous/Private-and-light-railways/i-VLM54RS/A Kelvedon & Tollesbury Branch – Coaches Only Please note: this is a vote for the branch coaches only – not locos and/or any other ‘normal’ BR stock. https://rogerfarnworth.com/2019/01/29/the-kelvedon-and-tollesbury-light-railway/ Lancing Carriage Works Shunter No.499 A lovely little 0-4-0 petrol shunter. https://www.flickriver.com/photos/31890193@N08/9897894294/ LNER C9 4-4-2 A short-lived but distinctive style of loco. https://www.lner.info/locos/C/c9.php LNER J92 (originally GER 204 Class) 0-6-0 Crane Tank One for lovers of Stratford Works. https://www.gersociety.org.uk/index.php/32-locomotives/locomotives?start=50 Locomotion A ‘sister’ loco to run with Hornby’s Rocket? https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/386746686747530331/ NYMR Lucie No.8 If you model the NYMR, this is a must for you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZG-2w_b8lo Patiala State Monorail India’s oldest monorail – full of character and charm! Another for radio-controlled battery operation? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bY52E8UMOw Sturrock Steam Tender Loco A class that isn’t sure whether it’s coming or going? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2a0_PlKnbM Swansea & Mumbles Tramway A line with plenty of variety. https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/Miscellaneous/Private-and-light-railways/i-qb54sVv/A Trevithick’s Loco We have Rocket…so, does Richard Trevithick deserve a model? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K40XrR67fas Volk’s Electric Railway Brighton When you have finished your ride on the Brighton & Rottingdean, why not try the Volk’s Electric? https://volksrailway.org.uk/visit/what-is-volks-electric-railway/ Wantage Tramway No.6 A tram engine from 1880. https://mikemorant.smugmug.com/Trains-Railways-British-Isles/Miscellaneous/Private-and-light-railways/i-Gw8XrV6/A Y10 Double-ended Sentinel Two locos delivered in 1930, originally for the Wisbech & Upwell Tramway, but which moved to various locations in service. https://www.lner.info/locos/Y/y10.php You have now finished looking at ‘The Guide’ to the 25 items – access to the actual Poll is here https://forms.gle/uz1kWGR3FsQFrVKF9 6 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norton Wood Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Oh I think it would be rude not to choose the Kelvedon & Tollesbury Stock, Including the Stoke Ferry 6 Wheel Brake...Although I don't think I'd end up with one in 7mm for Thatcham @Phil Parker 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenysW Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 For next year's quirky list: the Bavarian AA I class (only one made) that had a retractable set of booster wheels driven by an extra cylinder, presumably based on cog railway thinking, and making it a 4-(2)-2-2. It ran for several years until damaged in an accident and rebuilt into a more convention 4-4-2. 4 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Legend Posted December 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2021 Got to be Campbeltown & Macrahanish . I remember seeing this as a layout by Nigel MacMillan at Model Rail Scotland 1973 . What a tribute to him this would be ! The layout was in 2 halves which was a revelation ro a schoolboy . One side was the harbour at Campbeltown and the other I think the coal mine . Watched it for ages . It also had nice passenger coaches with open vestibules at the end . I'd buy this and have a small cameo layout . 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2021 Ivor, with sound! 2 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted December 6, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 6, 2021 Nothing for the LMS modeller. Only joking. 1 1 10 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted December 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Clive Mortimore said: Nothing for the LMS modeller. Only joking. Hello Clive Noted that you are 'only joking' but if anyone wants to suggest any items for 2022, please write here or PM me direct if you prefer. We can't make a promise that your choice will go in, but it will be 'given a fair hearing'. Brian (on behalf of The Quirky Poll Team 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted December 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) On 06/12/2021 at 13:05, Clive Mortimore said: Nothing for the LMS modeller. Only joking. Ivor ran in "the top left-hand corner of Wales" if I remember the programme intro correctly. The top left-hand corner of Wales was definitely LMS terratory. Edited December 26, 2021 by Phatbob Typo 5 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenysW Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Ivor was threatened with a transfer to Pontypwl Roads (just) before the line was privatised. Not especially LMS. I fear he'd have been painted green as well as having to run to a schedule (one of the horrors proposed). 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 A motorised Vauxhall Cresta? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Dagworth Posted December 6, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 6, 2021 The Volks electric railway and the Daddylonglegs combined could give a legitimate model use for the Noch NSFW figures… 3 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted December 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2021 10 hours ago, BernardTPM said: A motorised Vauxhall Cresta? Hello Bernard I get an 'error' message with that link. Is it just me? Brian (on behalf of The Quirky Poll Team) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardTPM Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) Sorry, it worked for me, but if there's a problem with that does this link work? Edited December 7, 2021 by BernardTPM 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted December 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2021 Thanks Bernard - got it now. Brian 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenysW Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 With the Broad Gauge, would these be re-scaled away from OO to use the same track (but need new scenery & buildings), or stay at OO and need new track. If I fear that if the track issue isn't sorted (including dual gauge to deal with running-rights) then very, very few models would sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted December 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2021 Hello Denys The Quirky Poll is - as noted - 'a little bit of Christmas fun'. However, there is a 'serious side' to it in that we ask you to only vote on items that you would realistically intend to buy and that a number of earlier high pollers have been announced. Our assumption would be that - if a maker went into Broad Gauge - suitable track would be made available and that might well include dual gauge to 'broaden the market'. The Brennan Monorail would, perhaps, be a greater challenge! Brian (on behalf of The Quirky Poll Team) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Just Steropes? Not Hercules and Cyclops as well. There were three of them and Steropes wasn't even the first built. Three 0-6-4T crane tanks were built – the first of which appeared in 1901. The loco chassis had 4'1½" wheels and were the same as the 850 class. They were numbered 16–18, and all were named ("Hercules", "Cyclops" and "Steropes" respectively). They rarely ventured out of Swindon works or Stafford Road works. http://www.gwr.org.uk/nopanniers.html It's a bit like calling the A1s the Flying Scotsman class whilst totally ignoring the first two. This was the first built Hercules which is an apt name for something that lifted things up. Also note it should be Sterope. Seems another GWR mistake with names (see 4969 Shrugborough Hall). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sterope Jason 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted December 7, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 7, 2021 Hello Jason Thanks for the information. I'm not sure why we have only listed the one, but it might be that it was a 'voter suggestion' subsequent to the 2019 Quirky Poll. We listed it last year under the same title but had no comments then as far as I recall. Brian (on behalf of The Quirky Poll Team) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestTom Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 The video on the Brighton and Rottingdean is one of mine, so I'd definitely buy one of those. I guess the gauge in 4mm would be 009-74-9? I'll let the manufacturer figure that one out. Actually, I have a couple of 3D-printed VER cars that fit on Kato chassis, and they look pretty neat. If Peco/Kato are looking for another collaboration... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Blandford1969 Posted December 8, 2021 RMweb Premium Share Posted December 8, 2021 Can you imagine of some of these got done. Mind please no one do the C9, I have got the frames and running plate cut out and brass tender kit for this and it would be the law of sod. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben B Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I'd love an Ivor the Engine, in any scale. My attempt in 00 on a clockwork chassis turned out reasonably, but it'd be great to have something a bit more hi-fidelity 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrel Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Locomotion would be a no brainer. The 200th anniversary is coming up and rocket proved popular. Even if it was a static model it would sell 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenysW Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 (For next year) How about NBR No. 55 in its (disputed) Royal Stuart tartan livery as a Crampton, before it was rebuilt in 1863 to a conventional single? Including as many as affordable of its 1850 Royal Train coaches as can be documented. Cramptons start as quirky, and then a tartan livery! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BMacdermott Posted December 9, 2021 RMweb Gold Share Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) Hello DenysW Could you let me have a direct link please? I can't find anything specific at present. Brian (on behalf of The Quirky Poll Team) Edited December 9, 2021 by BMacdermott Add missing word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenysW Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) Unfortunately I've only found fragments. There's a retrospectively-painted colour plate (opposite p77, painted by the author) in Hamilton Ellis's "Four Main Lines", publ. George Allen & Unwin in 1950 before ISBN. This has crept into the LNER Society's web-page, and https://nbrstudygroup.co.uk/nbrsg/nrs_catalogue.php under liveries, both giving the same date (1850) and location (Dunbar) as the Ellis book, but without mentioning any doubts, or that it's not a painting contemporary with the event However SteamIndex https://www.steamindex.com/locotype/nbrloco.htm contains the text "... Here one has the choice of accepting [John] Thomas or Ellis: the former calls No. 55 The Queen, whilst the latter terms No. 57 The Queen. Herein Ellis wins (for the time ebing). No. 55 was a Crampton 2-2-2-0 supplied by E.B. Wilson. with 16½ x 20in outside cylinders and Gooch valve gear); Both Dow and Ellis (North British) claim that the Crampton was painted in Royal Stuart tartan, but Thomas questions this, although Rutherford appears to accept this delightful concept and Ellis quotes a source (Ellis page 17). Thomas notes that No. 55 was rebuilt several times. Ellis has a painting of the Crampton in its tartan livery facing page 77 in his Four main lines. ..." My square brackets and bold/italics. I've not been able to check the above links work in this post, although all came up on the first page in a Google search of 'NBR Locomotive 55 Tartan Livery Crampton'. The livery feels like something that could be true, but it also feels like a splendid yarn that people want to believe. The sources do not dispute that No 55 was used on one occasion to pull the Royal Train. The SteamIndex biography of Crampton has a miniature version of Ellis's painting at the top. Edited December 9, 2021 by DenysW Add the note re the Crampton biography 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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