Widnes Model Centre Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, AY Mod said: When the embargo ends = you tell me. Talking to a retailer yesterday they won't get to place their orders until the 12th so how would they know how many pre-orders they can take before anything is sold out? We have been led to believe by Hornby that Tier 1 Retailers can order from 10th January and Tier 2 Retailers from the 24th. 5 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 06/01/2022 at 12:40, nathan70000 said: I see the Class 89 has been brought up... I certainly wouldn't rule it out, it would match well with the range of late 80s/early 90s ECML stuff Hornby have built up (buffered HST, Class 91) and it would perhaps explain why the Accurascale one doesn't seem to have gone anywhere. It also has that legendary one-off status that Hornby seem so attracted to as of late. Hmmm Having seen the RRP price the Class 91 has reached after 1st January I really hope Hornby leave the Class 89 to another manufacturer. If thats going to get done and that kind of price, I'd prefer it to be properly 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonC Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 21 minutes ago, Widnes Model Centre said: We have been led to believe by Hornby that Tier 1 Retailers can order from 10th January and Tier 2 Retailers from the 24th. so the Tier 2 retailers will really get the scraps of whatever hasn't already been sold by Tier 1. Wow!! 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, The Stationmaster said: The time doesn't really matter. What does matter will be whether there is actually anything there to order (even if they're in Tier 1) and even more so whether or not they will actually get what they order (even if they are in Tier 1). If there's something I think will be a hot seller I'll probably just order it on their website IF I can actually get on it. I aren't going through the carry on of last year wondering if I was or wasn't getting something when they shuffled their deck. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomScrut Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, AY Mod said: Of course the 7.00 video may tell you next to nothing but muggins here will have to watch it to determine the appropriate course of action on releasing the info. 3 hours of "Hornby's Greatest Hits" to get us all excited for the new range at 10am? 1 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutyDruid Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, GordonC said: so the Tier 2 retailers will really get the scraps of whatever hasn't already been sold by Tier 1. Wow!! Which is why I would never invest money in a model shop. No names, no pack drill. I have heard tell that a couple of years ago the owner of a model shop retired and sold the long established business to a reliable soul who had worked for him. Hornby's response was "new account, dropped to tier 2" which meant that the shop was unable to access all the glitzy stuff for the Centenary. Net result: everyone went 5 miles up the road to another shop and the supposedly new business nearly bit the big one. What a way to encourage your retailers? 1 2 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Tankerman Posted January 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2022 On 22/12/2021 at 17:00, AY Mod said: Clockwork, System 6, magnadhesion, synchrosmoke and chuffing sandpaper; set the DeLorean for 1972. Bit different for me, sailing around the Caribbean and the east coasts of North and South America while been paid for doing it. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR8700 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Is there a way of finding out who is in tier 1 so as not to avoid disappointment? 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium spamcan61 Posted January 7, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Pmorgancym said: So is Hornby's current business model to make purchasing from their retailers such a minefield of uncertainty that they drive people to their own website so everything is sold at full rrp? That would appear to be the case. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 1 minute ago, GWR8700 said: Is there a way of finding out who is in tier 1 so as not to avoid disappointment? If I remember from last time the topic came up, hardly anyone. It was mostly massive retailers such as Argos and ironically enough House Of Fraser who went bust not long after having an article in the press about them selling Hornby at their flagship Edinburgh store (now closed). Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hroth Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 35 minutes ago, TomScrut said: 3 hours of "Hornby's Greatest Hits" to get us all excited for the new range at 10am? Also known as "The Signal Box Review of 2021", with teasers... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold farren Posted January 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: If I remember from last time the topic came up, hardly anyone. It was mostly massive retailers such as Argos and ironically enough House Of Fraser who went bust not long after having an article in the press about them selling Hornby at their flagship Edinburgh store (now closed). Jason Argos? Really, but they don’t help you they just put goods to the side. And ask you to stand in the queue for a replacement. I thought part of the idea of the tier system you needed to be able to help with repairs or is that just tier 2, and so model shops are all tier 2. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium acg5324 Posted January 7, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2022 Monk Bar Modelshop in York are Tier 1. I will hazzard that most decent bricks and mortar model shops will also be in Tier 1 too. 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium PMP Posted January 7, 2022 RMweb Premium Share Posted January 7, 2022 49 minutes ago, DutyDruid said: No names, no pack drill. I have heard tell that a couple of years ago the owner of a model shop retired and sold the long established business to a reliable soul who had worked for him. Hornby's response was "new account, dropped to tier 2" which meant that the shop was unable to access all the glitzy stuff for the Centenary. Net result: everyone went 5 miles up the road to another shop and the supposedly new business nearly bit the big one. What a way to encourage your retailers? That would be unlikely as the tier system was introduced a year after the centenary products were released. Centenary 2020 Tiers May 2021 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWR8700 Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: If I remember from last time the topic came up, hardly anyone. It was mostly massive retailers such as Argos and ironically enough House Of Fraser who went bust not long after having an article in the press about them selling Hornby at their flagship Edinburgh store (now closed). Jason Weird. I assumed it was going to be smaller model shops. Strange system 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 22 minutes ago, farren said: Argos? Really, but they don’t help you they just put goods to the side. And ask you to stand in the queue for a replacement. I thought part of the idea of the tier system you needed to be able to help with repairs or is that just tier 2, and so model shops are all tier 2. No. The tier system was about retail not servicing. Someone will provide the proper criteria, but it was more about first impressions, cleanliness and finance. If you have a dingy little shop like Arkwright's then you are bottom of the list I'm afraid. Don't forget this includes retailers that may just sell a few items. It's not just about model shops. Jason 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Widnes Model Centre Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, acg5324 said: Monk Bar Modelshop in York are Tier 1. I will hazzard that most decent bricks and mortar model shops will also be in Tier 1 too. We are in Tier 2, but we consider ourselves to be a decent bricks and mortar shop. Photo is the only one I have at home. Hornby have decided to class us in the Museum and Heritage Centre classification. Did think about trying to claim from the Government Culture Covid Fund aimed at Museums etc. Thought best not haha. Todays view would be that there is not an inch to spare to put anymore shelving and racking in. It's a big shop and the photo doesn't really show how big it is. Some of our suppliers and all of our customers consider us to be a fantastic shop. Edited January 7, 2022 by Widnes Model Centre Clearer photo 11 1 10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Markwj Posted January 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2022 Hold the phone! 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold adb968008 Posted January 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, Markwj said: Hold the phone! Oh how funny. Whats this new fashion of announcements before dawn… kids will be late for school. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Phatbob Posted January 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, Markwj said: Hold the phone! Do Canadians use US style dates, or sensible ones? That could be the 1st of October. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pmorgancym Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 34 minutes ago, Markwj said: Hold the phone! They're both going for the 14xx and Wisbech tramway coach.. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishdurham Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, Phatbob said: Do Canadians use US style dates, or sensible ones? That could be the 1st of October. Both as the will takes them, but the educated ones do know how to spell harbour! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butler Henderson Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Um...maybe Hornby have realised annoucing Lion was a clowns foot too far and have pulled it in favour of something else... 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamport Southport Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Butler Henderson said: Um...maybe Hornby have realised annoucing Lion was a clowns foot too far and have pulled it in favour of something else... I hope not. I want a Hornby one as it will be made to go with the coaches. Not all of us are interested in the Titfield Thunderbolt. Jason 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold BlueLightning Posted January 7, 2022 RMweb Gold Share Posted January 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Steamport Southport said: I hope not. I want a Hornby one as it will be made to go with the coaches. Rapido have said that there's will work with Hornby's coaches, so I wouldn't worry too much about that 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts