KeithMacdonald Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Banbury (for example) had 70801, 90579, 90313, 90192, 90485, 90313, 90572, 90716, 90585, 90466, 90148 Maybe one question is which (of all the depots that had WD/8) was furthest south-west? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold A Murphy Posted November 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2020 90323 cannot be a ROD. They only ever had 4 digit numbers on the WR (3020 TO 3099 with gaps and exchanges of numbers as temporary locos were withdrawn and scrapped) and none WR engines were numbered in the range 636xx to 63901. 90328 sounds like another WD to me - see above. Alastair M 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Worsdell forever Posted November 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2020 Perhaps they should be described differently? 'Robinson ROD' for the WW1 Great Central design. 'Riddles WD' for the 1940s design loosely based on the LMS 8F. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingEdwardII Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 The WWI ROD 2-8-0s are discussed in David Maidment's "Great Western Eight Coupled Heavy Freight Locomotives" book - Chapter 6. He's a bit vague about shed allocation in BR days, excepting Carmarthen where he has specific allocations described for the period up to 1958. The numbers he lists are always in the 30xx range, even in BR days. Mike. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 46 minutes ago, A Murphy said: 90323 cannot be a ROD. They only ever had 4 digit numbers on the WR (3020 TO 3099 with gaps and exchanges of numbers as temporary locos were withdrawn and scrapped) and none WR engines were numbered in the range 636xx to 63901. 90328 sounds like another WD to me - see above. Alastair M 90323 is a WD Austerity 2-8-0 . The GWR ROD numbers extended into the 6000 range, though 6000-6003 were part of the on hire fleet and returned before the Kings cam along. Mike Wiltshire 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold The Fatadder Posted November 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, KeithMacdonald said: Banbury (for example) had 70801, 90579, 90313, 90192, 90485, 90313, 90572, 90716, 90585, 90466, 90148 Maybe one question is which (of all the depots that had WD/8) was furthest south-west? Both Newton Abbot and Laira had allocations of the Austerity 2-8-0, 70001, 77210, 77214, 77241 at Newton Abbot and 77161, 77196, 77255, 77294, 77325, 77421, 78671 and 78717 at Laira Would be very interested to see photos of any of these to confirm details... Edited November 24, 2020 by The Fatadder 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 24, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2020 16 hours ago, Ribird said: I’m glad you showed us this @gwrrob! I was thinking on getting an O4 instead, but definitely getting a GWR ROD now and still be somewhat right (if I can’t find the right one for the area) For reference the Bachmann model we used was 31-127. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted November 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, gwrrob said: For reference the Bachmann model we used was 31-127. Yes 'we' did and some mild surgery was needed to remove the smokebox number plate 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Mallard60022 Posted November 24, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 24, 2020 Boring, but I only saw one WR ROD and that must have been late 1958 or very early 1959, at Plymuff. I think it was the last one in service? It was L.E. heading for North Road, Smokebox first at Mutley. No idea what it was doing or where it was going. Could have been turned on the Table just west of the Station of course and popped down to Millbay? Who knows? P 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribird Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 3 hours ago, toboldlygo said: Yes 'we' did and some mild surgery was needed to remove the smokebox number plate So I take it, black livery with no insignia? How hard was it to remove and clean up the smokebox plate? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold john dew Posted November 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2020 On 22/11/2020 at 10:59, toboldlygo said: Well we know the plates didn't get lost, I proved that when I ordered the same plates a few months later and your replacement set turned up the same day as mine Hi Robin With us both having similar fleets, ANTB is brilliant at motivating me to actually get round to dealing with all those little jobs languishing at the bottom of the list......thank you for getting me started on re numbering my GWR ROD! Having sorted the number....two digits away from you....3003 Chester 1947.....two questions: Did all the GWR retained RODs have “GWR” on the actual number plate? In 1947 were they all marked with the white cross indicatot? Best wishes from a very wet Vancouver 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold toboldlygo Posted November 24, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Ribird said: So I take it, black livery with no insignia? How hard was it to remove and clean up the smokebox plate? Yes Black, no lettering of coat of arms. It's not difficult as the plastic is quite soft (and don't used a Stanley Knife), you'll need No.10, 11 & 17 X-Acto blades (or similar), a square needle file, sanding sticks and some TET. 2 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribird Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, toboldlygo said: Yes Black, no lettering of coat of arms. It's not difficult as the plastic is quite soft (and don't used a Stanley Knife), you'll need No.10, 11 & 17 X-Acto blades (or similar), a square needle file, sanding sticks and some TET. Now to just find their shed allocations 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 24, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, john dew said: Did all the GWR retained RODs have “GWR” on the actual number plate? In 1947 were they all marked with the white cross indicatot? Yes John, they had GWR on the plates and the Modelmaster ones have it etched. Fox and 247 do them but not all the range. They were filthy so you can't tell from photos regarding the white cross. 1930's view of 3008 shewing cabside plate. Edited November 24, 2020 by gwrrob add a photo 5 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 One curiosity, in the 1920's the hired ROD locos carried two number plates on the cab side. The ROD plate and the GWR number. Mike Wiltshire 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Clive Mortimore Posted November 25, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 25, 2020 Reading the past few post about ex WD locos, how can anyone get a WW1 ROD mixed up with a WW2 Dub-dee? Especially GWR modellers when all GWR engines looked like each other be they members of the King/Castle/Star/Saint/ Hall/ Grange/Manor class or them cute panniers. Making my way to the naughty step, can I look at pictures in my DMU book while I wait? 1 1 13 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold gwrrob Posted November 26, 2020 Author RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2020 Another wagon [Loriot L diagram G13] has been brought to my attention available on the Shapeway's website and has connections with RMweb member @chuffinghell https://www.shapeways.com/product/T53LEUCGS/gwr-loriot-l-machinery-wagon?key=9e1feccec426e3157b588bfde8f0402c 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Oldddudders Posted November 26, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 26, 2020 On 25/11/2020 at 15:31, Clive Mortimore said: Reading the past few post about ex WD locos, how can anyone get a WW1 ROD mixed up with a WW2 Dub-dee? Especially GWR modellers when all GWR engines looked like each other be they members of the King/Castle/Star/Saint/ Hall/ Grange/Manor class or them cute panniers. Making my way to the naughty step, can I look at pictures in my DMU book while I wait? "Please do not insult the GWR, as a smack in the mouth often offends." 2 2 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Bridge Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Don’t smack him in the mouth, you know he’ll need to move his lips to read the wurds Rich 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted November 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2020 For the mogul fans: I came across this photo of 4302 in lined GWR livery. Not something you see every day. https://pictures.abebooks.com/inventory/30116412747.jpg (Apologies if it has been mentioned before, a search turned up nothing). 8 1 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Premium Siberian Snooper Posted November 27, 2020 RMweb Premium Share Posted November 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Mikkel said: For the mogul fans: I came across this photo of 4302 in lined GWR livery. Not something you see every day. https://pictures.abebooks.com/inventory/30116412747.jpg (Apologies if it has been mentioned before, a search turned up nothing). It doesn't look lined to me, you can see the first boiler band, just behind the first handrail knob on the boiler, I can't see any lining on it. I think it's just the way the weathering is streaked. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold A Murphy Posted November 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2020 At first I thought the same, but if you magnify the photo, and look at the cab sheet, you can indeed see what looks very like lining to this blind horse..... Alastair 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMweb Gold Mikkel Posted November 27, 2020 RMweb Gold Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) Yes, always hard with these shots, but I think so. Edit: Russel Vol 2 p 105 and 107 shows 4301 in the same full livery (not the photo grey). Lovely 7mm version here btw: https://www.7mmloco.co.uk/gallery/ Edited November 27, 2020 by Mikkel 5 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Bridge Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Mikkel said: For the mogul fans: I came across this photo of 4302 in lined GWR livery. Not something you see every day. https://pictures.abebooks.com/inventory/30116412747.jpg (Apologies if it has been mentioned before, a search turned up nothing). I’d never noticed an elongated centre splashed before. Did the 43xx have larger wheels? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach bogie Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 (edited) The elongated splasher was to house the vacuum pump. A feature on 4300-5389. The first batch (pre WW1) of moguls 4301-3419 were fully lined out. Not 4300 which was not built until 1916. There is an image in the OPC Kenning collection where the lining shows up. Mike Wiltshire Edited November 27, 2020 by Coach bogie 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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